Objective morals/Subjective morals

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Old man shouts at clouds's picture
*bows* hey you've done it to

*bows* hey you've done it to me...I don't drink my ginger beer in front of the screen any more...

Nyarlathotep's picture
OK you both get the 5

OK you both get the 5 floobies; don't spend it all in one place!

Edit-to_add: FUCK IT:

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Old man shouts at clouds's picture
YAY FIVE FLOOBIES!!!!! Eat

YAY FIVE FLOOBIES!!!!! Eat Bauxite and die TM! and you Algebe! Getting the Duttons is a bad thing.

Tin-Man's picture
@Old Man

@Old Man

Mmmm.... Bauxite! Yummy! Thank you! Was my favorite snack as a kid. *grin* And Nyar said we ALL get floobies, so Pllbbbbbb! *sticking tongue out at you*
Oh, and one other thing, mister smarty-pants. Just remember when the crocodile belches in the elevator it's too late for Satan to grow neon dingleberries in the Pope's flingleforn. You have been warned.

Now, can somebody PLEASE tell me what the hell a floobie is???

Sheldon's picture
"I only believe objective

"I only believe objective morals can exist with the existence of god"

That's a subjective opinion, so you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

Sushisnake's picture
@Jazzy

@Jazzy
First up I must admit I couldn’t really make sense of what you're saying. So many "perceives" my brain turned into a sieve and all that settled was objective morality = 9/11 = bad, so in closing I'll just say it makes a nice change from rape and torturing babies to death for fun. Still offers no evidence for objective morality whatsoever, but at least you changed the wallpaper.

Sheldon's picture
If 9/11 was only bad because

If 9/11 was only bad because a deity exists, a point I am in no way willing to concede, why were the perpetrators all theists who believed a deity exists?

If someone's moral compass is so fucked up they can't see that indiscriminate murder is the very definition of moral turpitude then they have no morality, oddly enough the theists who committed the act thought it was objectively moral because their deity wanted it, and the theist starting this thread thinks it's not ok, but only because a deity exists. Can anyone explain how that contradiction represents objective morality?

It was moral turpitude because it caused unimaginable suffering, took away peoples lives, disregarded the rights of others, and implies the lives of the theistic murderers were of more value than those they killed based on their delusional belief in a fictional deity. None of that is moral, and none of it is objective.

Everyone should have the same basic rights is an objective statement, and it can and should form the basis of all human morality.

Believe what you want, I absolutely think everyone should have that right, but you don't get any extra privileges from it in this life, which should be fine given they all claim to believe they'll live forever in a state of absolute bliss when it ends, yet their actions imply they want power in this life as well, which is oddly incongruous.

LostLocke's picture
I thought this guy's name

I thought this guy's name looked familiar....
He's got a thread over at TTA about how Satan "popped" Muslims and atheists. (No. Nobody over there has figured out what that's even supposed to mean.)
http://www.thethinkingatheist.com/forum/Thread-How-satan-popped-the-musl...

Guess he makes no sense where ever he goes. :D

Sushisnake's picture
Why oh why do theists think

Why oh why do theists think the definition of subjective is rape, murder, pillage and bake babies for Sunday brunch? Don't they have access to dictionaries?

subjective
səbˈdʒɛktɪv/Submit
adjective
1.
based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions.
"his views are highly subjective"
synonyms: personal, personalized, individual, internal, emotional, instinctive, intuitive, impressionistic; More
2.
GRAMMAR
relating to or denoting a case of nouns and pronouns used for the subject of a sentence.
nounGRAMMAR
1.
the subjective case.

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