A thought on the idea of purpose and goals.

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Sir Random's picture
A thought on the idea of purpose and goals.

Heres a thought: Wouldn't whatever we end up doing or wherever we end up be our goal, even if there is no porpose in doing that/ being there? Or, to put it another way: Is the purpose of no goal still a puropse? Simply by the act of moving forward, are we implying a journey such that a goal is inevitably conjured into being by the very manifestation of the nature of existance itself? Now we can all agree that the nature of existence is in fact a byproduct of one's subjective experience of that existence, right? OK, now, if my experience of your existence rests inside of your subjective experience of this world, is this world in fact the skeleton of my own relative experiential mental subjective construct?

This train of thought just hit me out of nowhere today. Let me know if anything seems sketchy or wrong. All constructive criticisms appreciated.

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Well since the basic first

Well since the basic first sign of intelligence is forethought or planning, and the first sign of lacking intelligence is believing that some god directs everything and all outcomes are predetermined, I would say no.
the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists.
"the purpose of the meeting is to appoint a trustee"
synonyms: motive, motivation, grounds, cause, occasion, reason, point, basis, justification More
have as one's intention or objective.
"God has allowed suffering, even purposed it"
synonyms: intend, mean, aim, plan, design, have the intention
To have no intent or no goal is to have no purpose. Some things I do automatically, and some are pure instinct, but for the most purpose I have intent and expect an outcome that I desire.
Now many plans for each of us get derailed or altered, but it only causes us to modify or form new plans.

What you are also talking about is:
Solipsism (Listeni/ˈsɒlᵻpsɪzəm/; from Latin solus, meaning "alone", and ipse, meaning "self")[1] is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside of the mind. As a metaphysical position, solipsism goes further to the conclusion that the world and other minds do not exist.
The idea has been around forever.
Sir Random you are experiencing what many people older than you have experienced, and it's new to you. At some point you will disregard many of these thoughts as "Random" and move on to reality, and understand that life isn't as philosophical as it seems to be.
Also humankind suffers from being told that we are not in control of our destiny. This is a religious construct that has been impressed and foisted upon us for centuries. It takes a great deal to throw off this oppressive ideal and realize that we are in control of ourselves. The first recorded fight against this dogma was in early Athens with the concept of "Hero". "Ode on a Grecian Urn." It stated that the gods could not predetermine the outcome of a hero and that man controlled himself not the gods. This manifested itself throughout history and has culminated into the Constitution of the United States of America. The influence of the philosophy of John Locke, Thomas Paine, found a stronghold in the American revolution which may have begun as a fight for representation, but became a foundation for individual freedom.
So no I don't agree with your theory. I think that we should never be satisfied where we "end up", because it isn't the end unless you give up. Nothing is predetermined. Outside factors do play into current condition and position, but it is defeatist and wrong to believe that that is all that you can be. Maybe I'm not getting exactly what you are trying to say, if so, that's my fault. I will never accept "Where we end up was the goal" unless we intended it to be.

Sir Random's picture
No, in fact I should not have

No, in fact I should not have really includedanything after the "manifestation of the nature of existence itself" part. Nor should I have made it as wordy. My mistake.

Imagine this scenario: You are in a hallway that extends far enough into the distance (or that you have bad enough eyesite) to not be able to see what lies at the end, if anything. Is it possible that, by the very act of moving through the hallway, something is produced to serve as the "end" of the hallway. Not having any visible or known goal/end, but one being produced meerly by the act of continuing onwards.

mykcob4's picture
Ah,venturing into the unknown

Ah,venturing into the unknown. A metaphor. Well you still have self determination. You can either enter farther into the black abyss or can leave into the light. AND if you choose to go into the dark hallway you still have the choice of turning around and going back.

Sir Random's picture
A valid point, good sir. I

A valid point, good sir. I tip my hat and offer to buy you any non alcoholic beverage of your choice, should we ever meet.

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