Many scientists say that God does not exist! India's Vedanta Philosophy refutes this claim, by explaining that God is not a person, but an infinite ocean of consciousness, from which arises our entire Universe of matter, space and time.
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@Mangal Das: Conscious Vibration? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ... oh! I pissed myself. THIS IS GOING TO BE A HOOOOOOOT.. I haven't even started the post yet.
Okay son... Let's see what you got....
RE: "Many scientists say that God does not exist!" O FOR FUCK SAKE. No scientist worth his salt has made the assertion that God does not exist in any official way. HAVE YOU HEARD OF THE NULL HYPOTHESIS? You do not believe a claim until there is evidence for the claim. The neutral position is to not believe a claim until it can be supported with facts and evidence. AT NO POINT HAS ANY RELIGIOUS PERSON SUFFICIENTLY OPERATIONALIZED THEIR GOD SO IT COULD BE TESTED. AT NO TIME! THE VERY BEST YOU GET FROM SCIENCE IS, "THERE IS NO EVIDENCE FOR GOD OR GODS."
RE" "BUT,,,, BUT,,,,, BUT,,,,, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha but an infinite ocean HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA of.... of.... of..... con....con... consciousness, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA from which, from which,,,, from which HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA arises our entire Univeeeerrrrrrrrse....... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA of matter, HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAspace and.....and,,,, and .... time. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ..... O fuck. I needed a good laugh. I gotta go wipe my butt. I think I shit myself.
I did not say anything, I said it is a different kind of thinking of term "God". Abrahamic religion type understanding of "GOD" is based on personality. Even Einstien never ruled out this kind of "GOD". So please come out of your Abrahamic understanding of the word "GOD" and go through this video.
You've actually not defined any type of deity, just made broad unevidenced assertions, and tacked the word god onto them.
You've demonstrated no evidence, not properly defined your deity or the assertions you're making about it, and have offered no explanatory powers based on those assertions.
Cognostic's derision is fully merited, as your post is meaningless vapid rhetoric.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH-sefILZJA
DO I DARE CLICK ON THE LINK? O FUCK, MY SIDES ARE ACHING. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN HANDLE IT. *taking a deep breath* "Here goes!"
The "Consciousness Conundrum" Okay, we have an assertion. WTF are we talking about? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA The conundrum is that Stephen Hawking rejected the biblical story of creation. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA..... Oh shit.....*breath breath* "Okay back to the video." ........... GOD - A SUPERNATURAL PERSON! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HE RESIDES IN HEAVEN AND CREATED THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING IN IT.
Oh fuck, I can't take much more of this. Guess what! All of India agrees with the Rejection of the Christian god claim. HERE IT COMES. ARE YOU READY FOR IT. SOMETHING BETTER...... "I'M BETTING THE UNFOLDING OF SHIVA" Back to the video.......
So far we have not gotten to that Scientific conundrum. I am still waiting for that. Just Stand Up Comedy at this point. They really like this Stephen Hawking guy. You know, the one who had a theory of the universe and black holes that was later proved WRONG!
Now it is getting boring again. Another long monologue about scientists exiting god from the universe. We already covered this point.
But if you define God as a conscious spiritual reality. suddenly he pops back into existence. Never mind that we have no realistic description of anything at all SPIRITUAL.
So now God is spiritual and non-material, not made of matter, eternal, and omnipresent while not being bound by time, whatever that means, but this lady can apparently see it and experience it. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ...... And this is a ...a .... a.... a... Deeper Description of god.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA I'm at 2:05. Someone else can continue from here ..... WANT A FUCKING LOON....
ONE OBSERVATION. Please demonstrate a consciousness without a material origin. Show us all how a consciousness exists without a material origin and I will give an ounce of credit to your insanity.
How many socks does a puppet make?
Eleventythree!
Did I get it right?
What objective evidence can you demonstrate for the claim?
All you've offered is some crackpot on a YouTube video, and admit right away that science doesn't accept the claims, that's a piss poor start if I'm being honest.
@mangal das
Your video link doesn't provide any objective evidence that your god is real. You need objective evidence that can be tested by anyone and get the same results.
Mangal Das
Your "god" idea is so vague, and so far from normally accepted definitions of god, it is a major twisting of the word "god."
I think calling your "god" idea: "The universe" would be a more accurate way to present your idea. Certainly would be better received here at an atheist debate board.
And again, just like all the other "god" like ideas, your idea is completely unevidenced.
Which is fine, but just know without any sort of real evidence, your god idea is just an idea, just like my idea of rainbow farting unicorns.
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hogwash
From what I've seen in this video, it advocates some form of panentheism BUT the video itself doe'nt provide any evidence... Surprise? Nop.
In addition to that, it uses a straw man fallacy against what atheism is, what the entirety of the "western" scientific community thinks. There is a enormous dualism here because...boys...using a whiny voice..."We're are not a machine ouin ouin ouin!".
Looked rapidly to the commentaries, if a substantial part of the Indian academic community is like that, it does not bode well for Indians themselves.
Re: OP - "Universe Arising from Conscious Vibrations"
In honor of this fabulous thread, I present to the participating members an oldie but goodie for your listening pleasure while basking in the spectacular and insightful wisdom of the thread writer. Enjoy...
https://youtu.be/mdt0SOqPJcg
Poppycock, of the highest order.
@Mangal Das: How does anything have thoughts without brain tissue? How does awareness or thought convey itself across deep space?