Why the atheist afterlife is impossible

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Travis Alvin Brummett's picture
Why the atheist afterlife is impossible

Atheists think that nothing happens after death. That is simply not the case. It is impossible to cease to exist. If it was possible to cease to exist then nobody would ever be born. It's a fact that we are eternal beings. This human experience is only a temporary thing. We go back to being our infinite selves after death.

The state of nothingness doesn't exist. What happens after death is we do what our soul craves. The universe only gets better as time goes on, because the universe makes use of what new stuff comes into existence. So it's impossible to cease to exist.

We have no evidence of eternal oblivion too. For good reason, because we never die. We have it good on Earth so we should expect it will be even better after death. I'm not scared of eternal oblivion because it doesn't exist. We continue on to better things after death.

Fact of the matter is that the state of nothingness doesn't exist. We go life to life. As the universe evolves to be better.

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algebe's picture
I think your logic circuit is

I think your logic circuit is burned out. You should disconnect your mouth as a precaution until you can get it fixed.

mykcob4's picture
Algebe I see no difference in

Algebe I see no difference in the reply post
"I think your logic circuit is
I think your logic circuit is burned out. You should disconnect your mouth as a precaution until you can get it fixed.", then any reply that I would normally make. Sure you didn't cuss, but your post IS a personal attack.

algebe's picture
Hello Mykcob

Hello Mykcob

I've been arguing in good faith with this fellow for days, and he's started to repeat the same illogical mantra over and over in several different threads. I got a bit annoyed. It's a bit different from telling him to f off after his first post. I initially gave him the benefit of the doubt, but as you noted elsewhere, he appears to be a troll, and a rather monotonous one.

mykcob4's picture
I agree. I just reach that

I agree. I just reach that conclusion far faster than most. That being said an attack is an attack and only the severity is different.
You, of course, have the choice not to reply to slipknot. That has been expressed to me many times. I think even by you.

algebe's picture
@mykcob4 "You, of course,

@mykcob4 "You, of course, have the choice not to reply to slipknot."

But Slipknot is not the only other person in this conversation, or even the most important one. He's just a catalyst really. And I'm not the one calling for him to be shut down. He's entertaining in his way, albeit irritating at times.

ImFree's picture
Even if you religious belief

Even if your religious belief of an after life was true, it would be a form of hell similar to North Korea. People being forced to sing praises to a murdering dear leader for eternity does not sound very appealing.

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
@Slipknot:

@Slipknot:

Hey Dennis! Your posts bleeeeeddd a subliminal Atheism!

You

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Seaofmadness's picture
I respect slipknot0129 for

I respect slipknot0129 for his ability to keep a monotonous diatribe going. That is something I've never had within my powers. I wish he could teach me the way.

algebe's picture
Isn't "atheist afterlife" an

Isn't "atheist afterlife" an oxymoron?

Nat Readerland's picture
Tough one. An atheist is a

Tough one. An atheist is a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.

It would only be an oxymoron if afterlife were strictly defined as involving a God or Gods design and plan or the need for the existence of one.

If an afterlife is strictly to continuation of matter or elements or energy, etc then an afterlife can occur.

The two do not need to be terminally linked.

Even with eternal obloivion, the very matter you are made of does continue. Thus an afterlife. Just not one that aligns with theists.

mickron88's picture
then live the afterlife of

then live the afterlife of praising and singing hill songs for all eternity...

hahah....i think god is mentally ill and bored...lacks attention...stubborn bastard that's jealous if you'll worship other gods..
selfish bitch...

well...thanks but, no thanks...and by the way...none of what you said made any sense...
peace out bruh...

SBMontero's picture
@slipknot0129: You're wrong,

@slipknot0129: You're wrong, we know what happens after death, It's more, we know that we're immortal. You need to invent imaginary friends, parallel worlds, heavens, hells, we don't, we have science.

Travis Alvin Brummett's picture
Lol our science doesn't even

Lol our science doesn't even cover much of the real universe.

Jacob's picture
Mind If I ask how do you

Mind If I ask how do you explain people with brain damage or what about split brain Syndrome.

SBMontero's picture
@slipknot0129: wait, wait,

@slipknot0129: wait, wait, wait... and you say it, you that believe in imaginary friends, in another life parallel and in that inside you have anything that isn't seen. I repeat, the difference between you and any atheist is that you believe, he/she knows, you have your wet dreams with goddess boobs, he/she has the science. You got it bad.

P.S.
lol

ThePragmatic's picture
@ slipknot0129

@ slipknot0129

We continue on to better things after death.

Fact of the matter is that the state of nothingness doesn't exist. We go life to life. As the universe evolves to be better.

I don't understand...
Previously you mentioned how we will be brought back to life by god or mankind. If that is true, how can we continue "on to better things after death"?

Pitar's picture
It's always entertaining to

It's always entertaining to read nothing of any factual quality from people who know nothing and yet proffer it as truth. The sales staff of theism, no doubt conflicted by doubt, and yet wretched in their own questionable resolve to persuade whomever can be persuaded to whatever their intent directs them, must first foist it upon themselves to test it, and then to outwardly bait others. It's such a calamity of endeavor for no reward.

The whole of their effort is to acquire something I've yet to identify. What is the gain? If a thousand people turn to theism what is that a measure of? How does a merchant of all things theistic gather his thoughts together and logically explain how he gains from selling me his brand of it? Why is he selling at all? Why would he be on the stump for a god that clearly he will tell me does not need his help on the matter, being a god and all that it implies? What's the point?

To make a show of it? To parade a mockery of atheism within a parade of theism? Is it to outwardly display worship just in case his god isn't buying off on his inward sincerity? None of it makes a penny's worth of sense.

SecularSonOfABiscuitEater's picture
It's also fun to watch people

It's also fun to watch people take the op seriously enough to give the op a serious reply.

ImFree's picture
"It's also fun to watch

"It's also fun to watch people take the op seriously enough to give the op a serious reply."

True, better to joke and watch : )

Dave Matson's picture
This is just your personal

This is just your personal opinion. I don't see any evidential reasoning here, no scientific model. Believe whatever makes you happy, but this is the wrong forum to peddle unfalsifiable religious speculation. What you need is a pulpit.

Mikeykitty123's picture
So you are saying he's wrong?

So you are saying he's wrong?

Dave Matson's picture
It's a case of no credible

It's a case of no credible sales pitch for his product. So, I'm NOT BUYING!

Sheldon's picture
I got through two sentences,

I got through two sentences, another theists making erroneous and unevidenced scatter gun assertions about a concept they obviously don't understand.

This place is full of atheist, why not break the arrogant theistic trend and try asking them what they think and believe, instead of telling them as if you had any idea.

This was my favourite...

"We have no evidence of eternal oblivion too."

I had to laugh at such an obvious tautology, no one by definition can experience oblivion.

Not one single word of that verbiage demonstrates anything approaching objective evidence for an afterlife.

Edit: Damn it, someone resurrected an old thread again, and I hadn't noticed the date.

LogicFTW's picture
Yeah I wish they would create

Yeah I wish they would create a "post" graveyard. Based on my previous experience with various forums including modding them, a post graveyard (can be set to any time, but where any post that goes w/o reply over a certain length of time (say 6 months) gets moved to the post graveyard, where the thread is locked, but stored for reference.) With instructions that someone can create a new topic quoting the old thread if they wish to revisit a topic. When I first started here I had to teach myself to check date on things first.

Also of note, typically having a post graveyard keeps the active forum post databases smaller and more manageable and less prone to bugs/weirdness. I actually think the entire forum software could use a big update, the reply structure of threads is outdated and less efficient, then other methods I have seen, when I have more free time I have even considered writing a bot that would make forum use much easier for people that use it a lot. (If i got permission from the admin to let the bot crawl the forums.) Although I may just use google's bots to do the front end. Could be a fun little side project :)

Nyarlathotep's picture
I already use a bot to read

I already use a bot to read the forums, heh.

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