2000-year-old lead tablets, first account of Jesus?

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2000-year-old lead tablets, first account of Jesus?

What is to be concluded from this? It's the first time I hear of this discovery.

- "The books are known as codices - types of bound manuscripts distinct from scrolls"
- "these would be the earliest and only Hebrew-Christian documents in existence"

(Note to frantic believers: If these documents are genuine, they would only effect the historicity of Jesus, not provide any proof of any supernatural claims.)

Analysis of it's authenticity:
- "The lead has been analysed and the words and symbols translated and experts say the tablets date from within a few years of Jesus' ministry."
- "tests conducted by Professor Roger Webb and Professor Chris Jeynes at the University of Surrey's Nodus Laboratory at the Ion Beam Centre, confirm that the tablet is compatible with a comparative sample of ancient Roman lead unearthed from an excavation site in Dorset."
- "'It is oxidising and breaking down at atomic level to revert to its natural state. 'This is not witnessed in lead objects that are several centuries old and is not possible to produce by artificial acceleration (e.g. through heating)."
- "Further crystallisation analysis indicates that the codex is likely to be between 1800-2000 years old."
- "Analysis of the script by scholars has confirmed that the language of the codices is Paleo-Hebrew.
- "The codices are covered in eight-pointed stars, symbolic of the coming of the messiah, and they mention the name of Jesus. They also contain the names of apostles James, Peter and John."

If the age is accurate, it very interesting indeed.

- "evangelical Christians are trying to brand them fakes."

Well, of course. Their beliefs are not based on evidence, so their beliefs cannot be changed by new evidence. That only leads to the conclusion that any new evidence is false (unless it proves exactly what they already believe in).

- "a number of scholars came forward to brand them fakes, most without ever seeing the codices."

Solid job!

The codices do not contradict any of the established narrative, but they suggest:
- That Christ was not starting his own religion, but restoring a thousand-year-old tradition from the time of King David.
- Christ promoted worship in Solomon's Temple where the very face of God was believed to be seen.
- Belief in the divine feminine.
- The God he worshipped was both male and female.




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Very probably fake.......... far too many unanswered questions.....

These 3 links lead to some posts on the veracity or otherwise of these supposed "codices"




While this link seems to cast some doubts about the veracity of David Elkington himself....

Just found this from the Telegraph.....


"''We are now working with the Jordanian authorities to repatriate the artefacts,'' they announced four days ago. And then the couple promptly disappeared."

"A tirade of vicious death threats, they claimed, had left them fearful for their safety and they retreated to a remote rent farmhouse in Gloucestershire where, last week, "

"According to the Elkingtons they have been involved in a cloak and dagger escapade to safeguard the priceless religious artefacts from the clutches of unscrupulous foreign mavericks intent upon making millions in the Middle East's shadowy black market in antiquities."

''It has been a race against time to protect the collection's future,'' says Elkington. ''The shenanigans that have gone on have all the makings of an Indian Jones yarn.''

Yes...a "yarn" indeed..

and finally.... (check ut the video)


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Ouch, Mr Elkington!

Ouch, Mr Elkington!

I like a healthy dose of scepticism!
I thought there were some strange indicators, but it didn't occur to me that The Daily Mail was such a sensationalist newspaper. Good to know...

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The Pragmatic - it didn't

The Pragmatic - it didn't occur to me that The Daily Mail was such a sensationalist newspaper

You might find this funny:

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Haha, your right :)

Haha, your right :)

I would have researched better but I was lazy and out of time. So I figured I'd outsource the research...
Lesson learned about the Daily Mail. :)

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