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What is the probability distribution?
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You can't identity outliers without the probability distribution; so I don't see what is funny about asking for it.
I wonder what these red dots are in this scatterplot. Too bad we don't have a probability distribution to find out.
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Without it, it is just your intuition if they are outliers. And your intuition (or anyone else's for that matter) is worthless and often dangerous when it comes to probability. It could be argued that I make my living from people who try it.
Catch 'em if you can?
Right, but were not dealing with probabilities here. At most you can ask for a frequency distribution. Those are not the same thing as far as I'm aware of.
Outliers without probability huh? Kind of like a meal without food or a touchdown without a football? Isn't it nice how that leaves you in a position where you get to decide by whim exactly what is an outlier and what isn't? What is it like to go though life without rigor? Hard to say anymore without violating the forum rules!
If there are 25 students in a class. 24 get grades between 90-100% and one student gets a grade of 10% that student with a 10% is an outlier.
There are no probabilities here.
If someone told me they did not believe in a place called Toledo, Ohio I would show it to them on a map. If they said "This is just a piece of paper" I would use the map to take them to Toledo, Ohio. Seems to me the greatest philosopher in history could have found a way to take us to an actual god. Not just a mental construct.
That’s true for physical objects. About immaterial things? Like numbers, ideas, emotions, consciousness/minds?
Jon
So your saying that religion can not take us to a god?
How did you get that from anything I said?
Consciousness is an activity of a biological system. Everything in the universe is physical.
Are mathematical truths always physical? I'm not nessesarily saying that 2+2=4 is some kind of a platonic form that exists in another realm, but that truth certainly isn't physical. The same goes for our concepts of natures like the nature of a triangle or justice or what not.
I agree with this. Most evident by places that do not count the way we do, or do not count at all. There's a tribe that only has names for "one, two and many." They are consequently bad at math, because their brains aren't used to numbers the way we are.
Dumb Ox: Ideas are activities in a biological unit called a brain. So, yes they are physical.
Look up the definition of physical.
John: OK. So?
What did you find?
Physical reality. Books are physical.
I'm looking for a quote from a dictionary. Do you have one?
Yes.
What is it?
adjective:
1.
of or relating to the body:
physical exercise.
2.
of or relating to that which is material:
the physical universe; the physical sciences.
3.
noting or pertaining to the properties of matter and energy other than those peculiar to living matter.
4.
pertaining to the physical sciences, especially physics.
5.
carnal; sexual:
a physical attraction.
6.
tending to touch, hug, pat, etc.; physically demonstrative:
a physical person.
7.
requiring, characterized by, or liking rough physical contact or strenuous physical activity:
Football is a physical sport.
noun:
8.
physical examination.
The greatest philosophers in history were unable to prove the existence of the food on their plate with only assess to their fallible human sense and untimely passed away through starvation (apologies to R. Feynman).
The reason being is: philosophy doesn't ask questions but questions the answers. Ad nauseum. Stimulating for awhile, but in the end boring.
The argument that chimp3 has cast out as bait has corralled an expose' of conjured intellect on top of conjured deification of existence. One necessarily begets the other as theism's meme complex of deceit and deflection or it would have no chance of survival otherwise in a sentient reality. The Story, in other words, expands and feeds on itself in deference to the entire weight of an unbiased record of man's history, easily accessible to anyone with a modicum of courage to read it, and take what they will from it as a new measure and worth of mankind in isolation.
The argument assumes a generality that cannot be addressed lucidly by apologists singly or in a group. It begs a deeper question that none can evidence and that is true revelation. There is no single event describing and prescribing for all the one god. There never has nor will there ever be because the god-image all so vehemently propose, and thereby suppose, resides only within the limitless expanse of their separate and distinct imaginations. This necessarily suggests that there is no single god of a common image or divinity but rather a polytheism as expansive in number as there are apologists. The meme complex of religions herds these separate and distinct imagined-gods psyches to abide within their separate and distinct frameworks to recruit and produce their soldiering masses. These armies of apologists have resolved themselves to meet in mortal combat and historically spill more blood than any other conquest man has spilled blood over when words alone fail all missionary attempts at conversion.
chimp3 has landed a big one. Catch and release?
Catch and release? It's Fish Friday!
What I am coming to understand from our peripatetic apologists is this:
Step 1 : Create a thought experiment that results in one possible answer but provides no details.
Step 2: Use your imagination to create a deity with the details of your choice.
Conclusion: There is no rational way to go from Step 1 to Step 2.
Am I correct?
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