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I don't get the question. Also, I haven't made any religious arguments on this thread as I understand that religious arguments won't have any weight on these forums. So I prefer to leave them aside.
Why would anybody be in a relationship with a woman who is "pro-choice"?
She can legally destroy something you had equal part in creating without your permission.
She can intentionally take something which you helped create away from you without you being able to do anythng about it even if you haven't harmed her in any way.
Is that really how choice works?
If you're in a relationship with somebody who is against "pro-choice" that problem doesn't exist so trust isn't threatened.
Trust is very important in a relationship
That's an appaling and slightly misogynistic post. Its a woman's body, so why on earth should any man have anything to say about how she uses it?
It's appaling according to your ruleset not according to my ruleset and I care about your ruleset as much as you care about my ruleset.
If you and I created something together would you be happy if I destroyed it without your permission?
Would you celebrate my actions and call it a victory for choice?
You speak on behalf of all women everywhere according to your ruleset but in my ruleset you speak on behalf of one person; yourself.
I would never be with a pro-choice woman as she doesn't take into account the well-being of all parties so she's selfish and that destroys teamwork. If you destroy teamwork then the team loses and everybody on the team loses.
Show me a successful football team where all the players on the pitch only take.
If I don't want to be with a pro-life woman that's my choice not yours.
Pro-life women won't blackmail you even though they can.
Teamwork? Hahaha....a woman/girl impregnated by a rapist/abuser is just not a team player if she pursues an abortion.
That's all you have...rape babies. Without those rape stories you wouldn't have a leg to stand on.
Those rape stories are your best friend as they give you authority and power and an excuse to destroy choice in the name of choice.
I stated why I would not go with a pro-choice woman and you start talking about rape babies to puff yourself up to give what you're saying more value than what it really does.
You brought somebody else, a fictional character, into the equation to give yourself an extra boost.
And you did it by installing an evil image into my mind without my permission and then you told me you're a champion of choice.
You're a mass media social construct spreading man-made trending and evolving social truths that are here today and gone tomorrow.
My logic for not going with a pro-choice woman is flawless if you value choice rather than the destruction of choice.
Your emotional manipulations are irrelevant when it comes to logic and facts.
My logic is timeless.
It's cool. Pretty sure pro-choice women wouldn't want you either.
Jesus. Calling them "rape babies" so that you can disregard the pain and suffering of women who have been raped and pretend that they're just political pawns? That's pretty fucked up.
Yep, pretty fucked up on hal 9000's part.
Incase you missed it on the other thread, this obvious troll has been banned.
And all this troll managed to do is make the "pro life" people look even worse in comparison, the pro life people should be upset by this kind of troll as well as frankly this trolls arguments undermines their entire argument by highlighting just how ridiculous it is.
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It is not the fault of the unborn human that she was raped. She does not get the right to kill another person because she was raped. Pregnancy is a process just as recovering from a broken arm is a process. We don't get to chose not to suffer the process of a broken arm healing. In the same way we should not get to chose not to suffer the process of pregnancy due to rape.
Well, obviously we do indeed get to choose. The choice is made everyday.
Sure, but that does not mean it's right.
To you maybe. Matter of opinion. Stop stating your opinion like it is fact.
Or do, your right to speech is protected, just realize no one is going to take your unevidenced opinion seriously. And at least I would fight to make sure you can not force your unevidenced opinion on women's bodies.
"To you maybe. Matter of opinion. Stop stating your opinion like it is fact." ffs DON'T TELL ME NOT TO STATE MY OPINION.
EVERYONE here states their opinion. If YOU feel like they think it's fact, that's YOUR problem not theirs.
YOU just realize that no one is going to take YOUR evidenced opinion seriously. LOTS of people take MY opinion seriously. Just because you have an over inflated self opinion of YOUR SELF, does not mean I'm wrong.
Says you, the male that wrote: "some women like being raped." and that some rape victims have no emotional trauma at all.
“YOU just realize that no one is going to take YOUR evidenced opinion seriously. LOTS of people take MY opinion seriously.”
1. I take his opinion seriously and I am a someone.
2. How many is ‘LOTS’? Is it way more than ‘lots’?
We could say, it's a yet to be born human being, so why on earth should a woman have any right to kill it. It had no choice in the position it's in.
The issue is not that you do not have consent in your...fictional...scenario, but that mutual consent did not exist in the first place.
I wonder if HAL 9000 has approximately as many children as the number of times he has had sex.
I'd bet a years wages he has sex every single night....alone.
He didn't seem to consider the possibility that a person does not explicitly consent to a pregnancy should contraception fail.
You are a pathetic excuse for a human being.
Says the guy that wrote: "some women like being raped." and that some rape victims have no emotional trauma at all.
@Sapporo Re: "I wonder if HAL 9000 has approximately as many children as the number of times he has had sex."
We can only hope he has had zero children.... Hmmm... Thinking about it, though, that could actually be close to the number of times he has actually had sex.... (with another person). So glad he is no longer with us.
The State of Virginia is considering making post-birth abortion legal.
"Northam on Abortion Bill: Infant Could Be Delivered and Then ‘Physicians and the Mother’ Could Decide If It Lives"
Basically it would allow the mother and doctors to decide if a baby should be aborted after it is born. Maybe a scalpel plunged into the brain like they kill zombies.
More satirical news?
Again, Babylon Bee is a satirical news site; kind of like a Christian version of The Onion.
You do realize that USA and NY as well as NYC has some of the lowest abortion rates in the world right?
Why would there be all these sighting in NYC in relation to abortions when in other parts of the world, say China and India where abortion rates are 40-50 times greater than in the US? (Plus there much bigger populations.. you can do basic math right?)
With some clinics in China doing 1000's of abortions a day?
Should be asking yourself that question about the 3 links you posted above. Did not bother following them since the first two of your links takes persons to the true “Dark Web.”
I'd rather stay in the light where it is easier to read.