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"Also, why is almost every thread mainly answered by the same 6-7 people?"
well I prefer not to waste my time on theists but sometimes I do it for fun :D
RANJEET: Also, why is almost every thread mainly answered by the same 6-7 people?"
Frankly; during the week, after teaching or between classes, I find it entertaining. I also think it's good practice. It's only a waste of time if you are not getting something out of it., FUN is certainly an option. I guess we just have more FUN than you. He he he ...
"answered by the same 6-7 people?"
its a free country man, you'll get use to it...i personally just having my fun with theist like you...
i don't know why pass-byers often to complain about something...some atheist here actually don't wanna go down your level of mentality.
I love how you assume someone's intelligence based on their religion and a couple comments. Does the thought ever cross your mind that you could be wrong? Get off ur high horse, your majesty.
Nope. Never.
What Absolutists Abdicate and Abandon For Their Faith
Critical Thinking: The objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form an objective judgment.
Analytical Thought: The abstract separation of a whole into its constituent parts in order to study the parts and their relations in a coherent and logical process.
Deductive Reasoning: A process of reasoning from one or more statements or premises to reach a logically certain conclusion.
Rational Thought: Having reason or understanding to reflect on and to exercise the powers of judgment, conception, or inference in orderly ways or processes.
Logical Reasoning: The process of using a rational, systematic series of steps based on sound procedures and given statements to arrive at an objective conclusion.
The above is what Absolutists abdicate and abandon. Let's look at what they replace it with…
Faith: The practice of training one's mind to ignore evidence, logic, reasoning, critical thinking and rationality, in exchange for being told what to think, while also being able to believe in fairy tales, and being proud of it rather than ashamed.
And what I find most shameful is that some otherwise very intelligent people sacrifice that intelligence for their faith. Damnit, what the hell is wrong with you Absolutists? One of you could actually be the next Nobel Prize winner who discovers something so profound...
Besides, why have you NEVER heard of a big-time Absolutist champion on Jeopardy? Because none are intelligent enough to win on Jeopardy...
rmfr
Ok so you ABSOLUTELY believe that absolutists are stupid?
Most are.
rmfr
Albert Burgh letter to Baruch Spinoza
Baruch Spinoza letter to Albert Burgh
Given so much violence against non-believers in Islamic countries, Muslims should be more concerned about 'the facts' regarding many of their own congregations.
Muslim societies often fail to ensure that science is taught well and free from religious superstitions in madrassas. That limits their development.
I suggest the ManInS' watches this video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdJr3SZCOSY
It is better to learn new ideas than defend old superstitions.
@ZeffD
Re: "Given so much violence against non-believers in Islamic countries.."
It isn't against non-believers, Zeff, it's against other Muslims- the one's who believe the "wrong" Islam.
Christians do it too, with their True Christian®, TRUE CHRISTIANITY™ shtick- sure, they've stopped killing each other over it, but they attack and denounce each other all the time. Murdering other Muslims and badmouthing other Christians is motivated by exactly the same thing- dominance. It's a question of degree, not intent.
I don't have to watch one micro second of this video. By default, I don't trust any video that's uploaded at 240p.
@chimp3
" I have read the Koran twice. That was enough to persuade me of Islam's untruths. I don't imagine you tube having more compelling info than the Koran."
You mind telling what it was the persuaded you that its untruth? I don't ask as a way to try and prove you wrong but more for my personal knowledge. The reason i came here was seeking the truth and your reply was the first time i have seen someone here say they read the Quran so i just wanted your opinion on the matter
Sorry for jumping in, but...
I cannot say how many times I have read the Qu'ran. I had spent 30 years studying religion in general, focusing mostly on the biggest ones: Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism. Yet like chimp3 said of the Qu'ran, I have found ALL religions to be lies and faerie tales. Not one thing can be proven with HARD EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE. In fact, ALL of the Big Four religions are nothing more than collections of plagiarized stories of much older myths and legends. Many hundreds, even thousands of years older than any of the Big Four textbooks.
You evidently have internet and WWW access. Do some research for yourself. I have already wasted 30 years doing it for myself. Why cannot any of you do some for yourself? No. You have to act like ignorant and spoiled brats and require us to do the research for you. Life is like going to a university. You either do the research or flunk out.
τα λέμε αργότερα
***hand kiss*** ***blow***
rmfr
Hi Ararkish,
I have done my research on Islam, Christianity, Judaism and Atheism and personally have found Islam to the only truthful one without any contradictions to itself to its chore teachings/beliefs. Trust me i did not wake up some day and say let me go mess with some atheists on some random website. So to answer you question "Why cannot any of you do some for yourself?" I have done my own research for many, many years
Thank you
Fair enough. I stand corrected.
And here is something funny for you. I have only been researching "atheism" for the last six years :O! I always thought of myself as a Rationalist. I have heard the term "atheism" but only just did start studying it. I still tend to call myself a Rationalist.
rmfr
@Man in search of truth
The best predictor of what religion a person follows is what religion the person's parents had, rather than the extent to which religious beliefs are truthful.
@ZeffD
I watched the video posted and i completely agree with about learning new ideas but using this one dumbass is not a fair representation of Islam or all Muslims. Same way it would not be fair for someone to say Christianity preaches raping little kids because a few did it.
@Cognostic
Thank you i really appreciate your detailed response and opinion.
Also, "If life had an origin what was it?" Do you have answer for that? The reason i ask is because personally for me to try and convince myself that all this is just simply by chance is something i am unable to do. The universe and our bodies and everything else is just to perfect to happen by chance. I don't care whether you want to call it a god, a who or a what but trying to say everything that we know is by chance is simply to hard for me to comprehend. I have seen various websites and videos that talk about the crazy, crazy chances or mathematical probabilities that of this occurring and based off those numbers to me, it is impossible.
I have to agree with you they are crazy, but from a different view point. They are crazy because those probabilities can't be calculated; so when you read someone who claims to have done it, you should be very suspicious. Unless of course you are not suspicious of claims that prop up your religious beliefs; but that does not sound like a man in search of truth.
How perfect is the human body? How much "perfect" would be acceptable as coming from chance? How do you measure or calculate perfect/perfection? Can you give a simple example?
See without that information, then what I've quoted above from you is just a postulate; and that isn't going to convince many people here.
@Man in search of Re: "The universe and our bodies and everything else is just to perfect to happen by chance."
Wow. If you think the universe and our bodies are perfect, then you must have an incredibly "relaxed" view of what perfection is. I was an Army Medic for a few years, and I can tell you there is NOTHING perfect about the human body. And as for the universe and everything else being "perfect", I admit I am rather perplexed by that statement. Allow me to explain why....
Here we are (the Human Race), living on a tiny little speck of a planet that does not even amount to a grain of sand on all the beaches in the world compared to the rest of the universe. And keep in mind that the entire rest of the universe (so far as we know at the moment) is incredibly hostile to our life-form and pretty much instant death to us anywhere outside our own atmosphere (unless we are wearing protective gear). So, exactly for whom is the universe perfect? Because it certainly isn't for US. Oh, and as if that were not bad enough, even a vast amount of our very own "microscopic" little planet is uninhabitable to us, with many things (animal and otherwise) that are incredibly dangerous/deadly to us. Add to that the fact that we are becoming increasingly overcrowded at an exponential rate and depleting our limited resources alarmingly fast as a result. Soooo, ummm... Yep. Absolutely perfect.
Just speculating, but perhaps "god" should have put on his glasses and actually read the directions properly while putting together his "Perfect Plan." Obviously he somehow skipped some steps and had a few parts left over.
Events in the universe did not occur by chance. Rather, they are defined by the laws of nature. You should be able to appreciate the obvious flaw in thinking that the universe was especially designed for you, just because you exist in it. If you did not exist, you would not be able to say that the laws of nature are imperfect. It is anthropic bias.
Man in search of...The universe and our bodies and everything else is just to perfect to happen by chance.
Perfect for what? The universe certainly isn't perfect for us. Large areas of even this planet are deadly for us. We can only live in a thin layer of atmosphere, and even there we are in danger from UV, storms, earthquakes, etc. Anywhere beyond this planet is deadly. Our perfect bodies frequently wage deadly war against themselves through allergies, cancers, etc. Many species, including our own, can't achieve a balance with the environment, so we have cycles of over-population punctuated by famine, environmental collapse, and war. Do you really perceive perfection and design in any of this?
@Man in search of
Re: " The universe and our bodies and everything else is just to perfect to happen by chance. "
Here's my top twenty list of FUBARs in the human body/brain, plus a lovely, short video called the Sentient Puddle right at the end.
Physical FUBARs
1. An unsound spine
2. An inflexible knee
3. A too-narrow pelvis
4. Exposed testicles
5. Crowded teeth
6. One set of teeth to last us four score and ten years)
7. Meandering arteries
8. A backward retina
9. A misrouted recurrent laryngeal nerve
10. A misplaced voice box ( choking's the 5th most common cause of accidental death in the US)
11. A brain like a dysfunctional workplace
12. Our inability to biosynthesize vitamin C
13. The awkward wiring of the male urinary tract
14. The close proximity of our genitals to our rectum
15. Our multi-function genitals
16. The overly complicated human foot
17. Our inefficient sinuses
Behavioural FUBARs
18. Our love for sweet, salty and fatty foods
19. Our tribalism
20. We have any number of cognitive biases- pareidolia and apophenia, just to name two.
https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/04/the-most-unfortunate-design-flaws-in-...
http://m.nautil.us/issue/24/error/top-10-design-flaws-in-the-human-body
https://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-causes-of-accidental-death-in-...
https://thehumanevolutionblog.com/2015/01/12/the-poor-design-of-the-huma...
The Sentient Puddle
https://youtu.be/Nd9_B9RIOYc
"The universe and our bodies and everything else is just to perfect to happen by chance."
As Nyarl says, how are you measuring perfect here, as it sound like an arbitrary subjective term to me. The human body is far from perfect, and like all other living things not did come about purely by chance, they evolved through natural selection over billions of years, and whilst random events played a part in this massive process, to claim humans "came about by chance" is to not understand evolution at all.
"I have seen various websites and videos that talk about the crazy, crazy chances or mathematical probabilities that of this occurring and based off those numbers to me, it is impossible."
Take a deep breath and look at what you just wrote? You're claiming something that has already happened is impossible. Adding undefined magic that has no explanatory powers at all, from a deity you can demonstrate no objective evidence for hardly reduces the probability of our existence, it does the opposite. You need to understand why Occam's razor would make such a claim fallacious.
A fact for you... There is a fine line between kneeling down and bending over. You must be sore back there! Try some tucks.
ManInSearch wrote "@ZeffD
I watched the video posted and i completely agree with about learning new ideas but using this one dumbass is not a fair representation of Islam or all Muslims. Same way it would not be fair for someone to say Christianity preaches raping little kids because a few did it."
Though no individual Muslim can be representative of Muslims in general he is not "one" dumbass. Just look at the chaos, ignorance and violence that prevails where Islamic religion is common. That was the point I was trying to make. Secularism, Freedom of and from Religion, Free Expression and Separation of Church and State must prevail as Islamism leads to religious laws, courts, injustice, political instability and intolerance. In other words, Islam as it is currently and variously practised has inevitable consequences.
I think you only want to "learn new ideas" that don't flatly contradict religion and your religion at that.
Religious beliefs are superstitions and there is no escaping that fact. Also, I think there is no such thing as harmless superstition.
"Religious beliefs are superstitions and there is no escaping that fact. Also, I think there is no such thing as harmless superstition."
Kudos, and I concur wholeheartedly. Without wishing to be glib I think it is fair to say the proof of the pudding is in the eating is an apropos adage for those states where Islamic religion holds absolute power.
I think this warning from the late Christopher Hitchens sums this up for me
"“Many religions now come before us with ingratiating smirks and outspread hands, like an unctuous merchant in a bazaar. They offer consolation and solidarity and uplift, competing as they do in a marketplace. But we have a right to remember how barbarically they behaved when they were strong and were making an offer that people could not refuse.”"
Whilst this a caution against the claims of modern monotheism in general, it is validated absolutely today in ever state in the world where Islamic religion holds political power over its citizens.
@Man in search of truth asks us for facts over opinions, but does not hold himself to his own standard.
(btw, it is actually possible on youtube to play videos up x2 speed, with subtitles in many cases, including this one - I certainly found it better than listening to it.).
Well I just had the perfect shit, not trying to bad mouth the experience but as perfectly composed and textured it was and as perfect my execution of its expulsion from my ass I did not think it glorified or was evidence of a supernatural supreme divine being intelligent designer god thingy.
It was a Hella good turd don't get me wrong. I just can't believe an all powerful, omnipotent, omnibelenelovent, omniscient, all loving perfect divine being actually thought it through that of all the infinite possibilities to glorify itself would hit upon the idea of his creations shitting up the place would be a testament to his glory.
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