Merry Christmas everyone:
For your seasonal present, I have included a list of links of religious justification of pedophilia and domestic violence. You should be able to find at least one to eliminate at least one God botherer from your holiday table.
Most are Catholic,some are Baptist. Pell is included for all you Aussies.
Bill Donahue – proud apologist for pedophiles raping Catholic children. Doing everything possible to define Catholicism as a cult that believes in sacrificing children to its priests. Endorsed by bishops and cardinals, especially Philadelphia archbishop Chaput. Hero to my local priest. Reason I am Fleeing the Catholic Church in terror. Why do the bishops expect young people to stay in an organization that is LITERALLY TRYING TO KILL THEM?
USCC Bishops – preeminent issue in Catholic Church is ABORTION! They must be running out of victims!
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@Mrs. Paul Owczarek:
And the exact same thing is going on in the protestant denominations.
"One of the most striking aspects of the Protestant clergy sex abuse pattern is that most people don’t realize it is a pattern. The Catholic Church has taken a well deserved beating in the courts and in the court of public opinion as former altar boys, orphans and ordinary parishioners come forward with appalling stories of sex abuse. Yet equally egregious violations by Protestant clergy fail to generate the same level of outrage. Why?"......
Protestant Christian churches and 5500 other religious-oriented
organizations—reported 7095 claims of alleged sexual abuse by clergy, church staff, congregation
members, or volunteers between 1987 and 2007 (Seattle Post-Intelligencer 2007). This is an average
of 260 claims of alleged sexual abuse per year, which resulted in $87.8 million in total claims being
Pedophiles place themselves in positions of power over children. They are attracted to jobs and positions that give them this position. IT'S NOT JUST THE CATHOLICS.
Yes, I included the Baptists is my list as I had the conversation with the Baptist lady who was screaming mad and asking how she could make sure that the abuse in the Baptist Church made the same amount of press as the Catholics. I told her she couldn't. Catholics are 1/6 of the WORLD population. (I gave her what help I could and joined her group, too.) Any individual Protestant denomination isn't going to be able to compete. It is the same as the phrase "going postal." Postal employees are only slightly higher more likely to commit violence against a co-worker because of the employing of vets with PTSD. It is just that the post office is the nations LARGEST employer.
I am especially angry that Catholicism has a centralized hierarchy, that DELIBERATELY CHOOSES TO PROTECT THE PEDOPHILES. I am Catholic. I at least have slight chance of being able to do something in my own Church.
I just skimmed through Donahue's article. He suggests that pedophile behavior by priests is a trend that rose and declined between the 60s and 80s, roughly corresponding with the sexual revolution of that period. That's just spin. Priests have been raping children for centuries, and they're still doing it. Just Google Pope Julius III. What changed in the second half of the 20th century was society's willingness to challenge and prosecute these vile men in black.
What also changed was that in 1919, the poop wrote Canon Law that REQUIRED the bishops to protect the pedophiles. The problem went from a few bad apples to a systemic disorder. Before that, they just turned them over to the secular authorities for punishment.
The Australian canon lawyer and the sociologist published two documents. The first is a legal report entitled “Canon Law – A Systemic Factor in Child Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church.” (Free download from National Catholic Reporter) written for the Australian government. The second is the lay version “Potiphar’s Wife.” (Buy on line for real money). I verified the information with the author of the second book and the legal firm from the movie Spotlight. A third is “Child Sexual Abuse in the Catholic Church; An Interpretive Review of the Literature and Public Inquiry Report” another free download through the Center for Global Research; School of Global, Urban and Social Studies, RMIT Both books thoroughly document how the vatican ORDERED the bishops to protect the pedophiles starting 100 years ago.
https://www.ncronline.org/news/accountability/university-report-lifts-li... & mansplaingod.me
Sadly, no matter the position, be it priest or gymnastics coach, there are people placed in a position of trust who commit the most heinous of crimes, raping and/or molesting children.
But what separates roman catholic priests from all the other scum is that they are controlled by a powerful and very well controlled central organization. And that massive and very rich world-wide organization has NOT done the right thing by condemning and punishing the perpetrators, but instead protected the scum.
As they once said, "all roads lead to Rome". It should now be amended to "all pedophiles flock to Rome".
I believe the entire population of the vatican consists of pedophiles hiding out from extradition. They took over 100 years ago.
Now now - (Tongue In Cheek) Not all homosexuals are pedophiles, That is an old myth and there is no truth to it at all. "80 percent of the male Roman Catholic clergy members who work at the Vatican, around the pope, are gay"... "the more showily homophobic a Vatican official is, the more likely he belongs to that crowd, and that the higher up the chain of command you go, the more gays you find. And not all of them are celibate. Not by a long shot."
"30 to 40 percent of the American Catholic clergy, according to dozens of estimates from gay priests themselves and researchers. Some priests say the number is closer to 75 percent. "
This is NOT A SLAM ON HOMOSEXUALS. Apparently, from what I have read. The Church maintains a HOMOPHOBIC position and uses this position to SHAME GAY PRIESTS into doing their bidding. This is a common theme throughout this kind of literature. While not directly related to pedophilia it is related to the psychological state of priests. They are kept and controlled in a "Cage of Shame"
So what is the point --- Now the Vatican wants to blame the child abuse cases on....... wait for it .............. HOMOSEXUALITY. Yep! It is those evil homosexuals among them that are the cause of pedophilia.
"Vatican seems to link scandal, gay priests
But recent comments by Vatican officials indicate that they connect the scandal over sexual abuse of minors with a high number of homosexual priests because the victims are overwhelmingly male and adolescent."
THE SHORT STORY - The fucking Catholic Church is all Fucked UP!
" IT'S NOT JUST THE CATHOLICS."
Quite true. A simple fact which tends to get ignored. I've also read of a problem among the Amish an Orthodox Jews.
The abuse of children and the cover up of such abuse anywhere suggests a systemic problem . However, it does not reasonably allow for a conclusion that all or even the majority of a given group are guilty. I think that's called "guilt by association". Not a principle I support.
I was brought up devout Irish Catholic . I was educated at first by nuns and later by the De La Salle brothers, as was my younger brother. Both sisters attended convent schools.
I was physically abused by the good brothers, for whom the strap was the preferred teacher's aide, due to their utter incompetence.
However, I never once saw or heard of sexual abuse at my school, or within the schools attended by my sisters. All of the priests I met growing up were decent, devout men.
The claim about pedophiles in the Vatican is so risible, I can only assume Mrs Paul O is poeing . If serious , would love to see the evidence to support such a claim. If not, I feel safe dismissing the claim as hysterical nonsense.
So you were ok with the physical abuse? Lucky you finding decent priests. How much did you actually talk to any of them?
Catholicism is BILLIONS of believers held hostage by 3,000 proud, pagan, pedophiles in the hierarchy.
I was a 3-4 X/week,50 year plus, cradle Roman Catholic watching the pedophile crisis in horror, especially when the previous entity in possession of the vatican compared women who want to be priests to pedophiles. Then the PA bishops ordered all the priests to blatantly lie about PA Bill 1947 which extended the statute of limitations on pedophiles. I complained to my local priest; who handed out the "Catholic' League’s Essay "Women's Moral Descent" with its theme that men have the right and moral obligation to decide which women deserve to be raped. I called my daughter at college, crying, saying that all the priests were depraved perverts totally dedicated to worshipping their dicks. Her response, “Duh, Mom! I’m sorry you had to figure it out in such a painful way.
From what I can tell, this campaign was led by Philadelphia Archbishop Chaput (Slap You). - Archbishop Chaput is listed as a major supporter of Bill Donahue's 'Catholic' League. - Bill Donahue's opinion was the "the Bill had only ONE purpose - To Stick it to Catholics" - implying he believes pedophilia is right exclusive to Catholics. Bill Donahue is a believer in 'Catholic astrology. Archbishop Slap You has singlehandedly done the most to jeopardize Catholic Youth and their faith. He was just chosen to go to the vatican’s Youth Sin Nod
I will NEVER set foot in a Catholic Church again because I will LITERALLY BE DAMMED IF I WORSHIP THE GREAT PENIS IN THE SKY TO WHICH YOU MUST SACRIFICE CHILDREN!
“Men Explain Religion to Me’ subverting God to promote paganism, rape, murder, homophobia, and pedophilia.
@ Mrs paul O.
'So you were ok with the physical abuse? Lucky you finding decent priests. How much did you actually talk to any of them?"
What ? I neither said nor suggested any such thing. Kindly do not put words in my mouth. My post was mean only to challenge what I sea as an hysterical view of pedophiles in the Vatican. All you need do for me to change my opinion is to provide actual proof (I'm unable to accept media reports as reliable providers or truth.) Further, in my country, we have a quaint little convention called "the presumption of innocence" "
I have a cousin who is still a Catholic.The last theist in my family. I asked him how he could stay in the church. His response was the pedophile priests are only men. Their disgusting behaviour does not negate the teachings of the church. He's right.
As it turns out, I have been paying attention ,and am somewhat familiar with the issue, especially In Australia ,and the case of cardinal George Pell, now in prison for abuse (there is no statute of limitation on sexual crimes in Australia) .
I refer you to "The Case Of The Pope; Vatican Accountability For Human Rights Abuse" " by Geoffrey Robertson QC, world renowned Jurist.
I have the impression that your opinion has become so much a part of your world view that you are unable to change your views based on anything as prosaic as reason or facts. I also reject trial by media. Perhaps you are privy to court records which the rest of us are not?.
I agree to differ. I have nothing further to say on this matter.
"In The Case of the Pope Geoffrey Robertson QC delivers a devastating indictment of the way the Vatican has run a secret legal system that shields paedophile priests from criminal trial around the world.
Is the Pope morally or legally responsible for the negligence that has allowed so many terrible crimes to go unpunished? Should he and his seat of power, the Holy See, ...more"
"Geoffrey Ronald Robertson AO, QC (born 30 September 1946) is a human rights barrister, academic, author and broadcaster. He holds dual Australian and British citizenship.
Robertson is a founder and joint head of Doughty Street Chambers. He serves as a Master of the Bench at the Middle Temple, a recorder, and visiting professor at Queen Mary University of London."