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Zero: "God is just a word idk why you feel so taboo about this word. I am pass the word but what the word represents that is what i have tried to explain that god represents something that always exits that does not subscribe to the laws of our universe a multiverse and energy can also have those same traits which is why i say it is at least possible for those words to be interchangeable are you telling me this isn't a strong argument."
I do not believe in your god idea. You have failed to convince me.
Lol I haven't failed at anything my job is not to convince you but to share the knowledge and is up to you to do what you want with so i have actually succeeded my goal.
"but to share the knowledge"
Thank you for sharing. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Ignorance at its finest if im wrong ok i was wrong about something.....so what if im right? you guys are like the people who denied that the world was round. It has to be scientifically accepted for you to consider it. But some guy just explaining it you look down on the idea its cool all this proves is i was wrong about chimp 3 and there are alot of people like him. Just not objective critical thinkers im the guy explaining the earth is round in a room full of flat earthers.
"so what if im right? "
I don't deal with "What ifs"
"It has to be scientifically accepted for you to consider it."
If its not scientifically accepted, I have no reason to consider it.
"But some guy just explaining it you look down on the idea"
Exactly. You are JUST some guy. And that's it.
"you guys are like the people who denied that the world was round."
And your like that guy who tried to convince me the world is a cube.......
I have taken care of people who have no imagination because they are severely brain damaged and all higher functions of the brain are destroyed. They are given food through a tube and digest just fine, One young man had bullet entry hole in forehead. Exit hole in back of skull. Nobody home. Digests just fine.
You have to use imagination to come up with the conclusion that a person can be braindead. We haven't always known that knowledge and people came together and thought about it and used there imagination to come to a conclusion that is correct. Also being fed threw a tube was also imagination before invented that was only and idea before actually applied. I said everything you do and think is imagination so if he is braindead he doesn't think at all so of course he doesn't use imagination but for what he does the bed, blanket, sheets, were imagination before invented and applied so if you got other examples i would be happy to debunks those as well.
Zero:
Move the goal post as far as you like. This is the internet. It is recording what you write.
You actually baited me in to that side debate i dont really care if im right about everything being imagination if not everything its dam sure alot of philosophys and inventions started with imagination.
I agree. Imagination is the basis for most philosophy and all religion. Create a god in your own image.
You really feel a type a way about the word god. This is my point of the thread that religion and athiest are very ignorant and words like god and science turn each other off. The programming of the community you associate with blinds you from evaluating information objectively with open eyes and ears. I am literally giving you the key to beat a religious person every time they cannot get around it but in this you must realize that they are right and wrong about certain things in there belief system. You must admit in what i am explaining that atheism is right and wrong about certain things in there belief system. But you can say anything to a religious and athiest person and have as many facts as you want you will not convince them one of the reason is both sides are right and both side are also wrong is what i realized and in a wierd way they actually go together some of there beliefs may not atheism but definitely science and religion.
"You must admit"
No, I don't, actually.
Bro that is out of context enough with your childish games.
I am not your "bro".
And how exactly the hell is me quoting and responding to something you said " out of context"? Unless what you said(and I quoted) was out of context.
"You must admit in what i am explaining"
If dont agree then this doesnt apply to you
Calm down! What you are saying makes no sense at all. It is very hard to convince either atheists or theists of anything when you don't make any sense. It is like kicking against the pricks.
So speaking in a hypothetical situation if science comes of in 10 years and confims this idea as facts and proving that I was right and ahead of science and is undeniable. What would your d defense be I wonder how stupid you would feel and I know you would think back on this conversation this is what will happen science will prove me right or wrong.
That fact that you think science could prove you right (or wrong) is disturbing in of itself.
Think about it this way. Try to think of a thought experiment and any possible result from it that would prove you right or wrong? Can you even make one up? Do you see the problem?
Im not thinking of experiment but time is what I think will prove me right or wrong.
So you can't even dream up a fictitious experiment, with fictitious results that would make your case? I don't even know what to say.
Zero: "So speaking in a hypothetical situation if science comes of in 10 years and confims this idea as facts and proving that I was right and ahead of science and is undeniable. What would your d defense be I wonder how stupid you would feel and I know you would think back on this conversation this is what will happen science will prove me right or wrong."
Go collect your Nobel Prize! Personally , I think you are irrational.
All I know is you will look just like your avatar if science proves me right I wish i could be there.
Zero- "i am explaining that atheism is right and wrong about certain things in there (sic) belief system."
How many times does this need to be said?: Atheism is NOT a fucking belief system!
you are wrong athiest believe that there is no god agnostics is not knowing if there a god so is that not fact?
Wrong! There are many, many, agnostic atheists. Typically, a/theism is about 'believing' and a/gnosticism is about 'knowing'. These are two very distinct things.
I do not accept your assertion that your god exists. That is NOT a belief!
"You have to use imagination to come up with the conclusion that a person can be braindead. "
Excuse me, what? I'm pretty sure fact is not a matter of imagination so much as a matter of learning said fact. Learning does not require imagination either.
"also imagination before invented "
But its not imagination anymore. Therefore what you are saying is irrelevant to the now.
Before it was fact it was just and idea thought of by using imagination.
And like i said my point was that everything must be thought first before anything else happens. Without imagination alot of things wouldent exist imagination is the result of most things that are invented and imagination is used to come up with concepts and to figure out facts like for example they say the cure for cancer is another disease that is not deadly but without using imagination we wouldn't have found that out.
"Before it was fact it was just and idea thought of by using imagination."
Its a fact that gravity exists in our universe. Gravity has existed since the universe began(which was long before humans appeared). Therefore, the fact of gravity has existed since the universe began. Imagination had no part in gravity or the fact that gravity exists.
"Imagination had no part in gravity or the fact that gravity exists."
I never said it did what i explained is how we as humans discover facts about the universe is by imagination being apart of the process. That game wont work with me.
"humans discover facts about the universe is by imagination being apart of the process"
I don't know about you, but I was one of the ones that learned the fact that the stove top burns by touching it with my hand, not by imagining the event.
"That game wont work with me."
Game? What game? I don't see a game. Perhaps its all in your......imagination........
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