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@leper
You do realize that all gods are created by humans, and all religions were created to control people.
@xenoview
"You do realize that all gods are created by humans, and all religions were created to control people."
Your arguments are so empty I usually see nothing there to comment on. If you really want to discuss or debate religion you need to be able to understand the view from the other side even if just a little.
@ Tin Man
Even with my Super Duper WOW Irony Meter om max, this really strained its capacity..we got through 7 of the 14 fail safes in 3 nanoseconds....But it is strong and sturdy, and appears to be working well....
You will need yours, I have arranged UPS to drop it off today for you.
@Old Man Re: Irony Meter
SOLD!!! That last irony surge took out the power to over half the county around me, I got a warning from the power company to either get a new meter, or stop reading certain posts on this site, or face serious penalties. However, I'm afraid I will have to find a power supply port other than my butt. That is where I plug in my toaster oven to cook my Pop Tarts and Hot Pockets.
@leper
I was a christian for 10 years, then I read the bible and it made me stop being a christian.
Prove that your god was not made up by humans.
Re: Rabbi Mark
Oh, joy. Just what we needed. Another piece of smelly foot apparel to freshen up the place. And this one seems to enjoy clicking its own "Agree" button. How cute...
@rabbi mark
Even your god was created by man. So why didn't you post the verses you mentioned?
They are not polytheistic religions.
First off you have to differentiate between practioners of religion and the religion in itself as it was made.
Both as well as Judaism are meant to be monotheistic. However, with the corruption of Christianity it has come to resemble polytheistic so much so that some people call it polytheistic. This is not due to worshipping Satan or angels but due to worshipping Jesus, the Holy spirit, and Mary.
In Islam worship is only to God and the worship of others such as angels is absolutely prohibited. However, as someone mentioned there are sects of Islam who break this prohibition. Such as some Shia Muslims if they pray to the dead and give Ali admiration that in Islamic terms approaches worship. Some Sunni Muslims also pray to the dead.
It isn't called polytheism in this case. It is called shirk. Shirk is not the same as polytheism though some non-Muslims may use the words interchangeably.
@Leoer: "Both as well as Judaism are meant to be monotheistic. However, with the corruption of Christianity it has come to resemble polytheistic so much so that some people call it polytheistic."
YOU HAVE NO FRIGGING IDEA AT ALL WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT:
During the Jewish exodus from Babylonia, the Jews were Polytheistic and believed in many gods. Later they removed other gods from there Ashrams and began worshiping the one god among many as their own special god. READ THE FRIGGING BIBLE. THIS HAS BEEN CITED ABOVE. Jews then became Henotheistic and finally is called monotheistic in modern versions of the Abrahamic faiths but they basically remain HENOTHESTIC. (And are certainly closer to Polytheism than they are to Monotheism.)
Muhammad spoke to Gabriel and not to ALLAH! OPEN YOUR DELUSIONAL EYES.
No one worships Gabriel - among Muslims anyway. So this doesn't apply.
The quaran was written by Gabriel and only memorized by Muhammad. WTF are you talking about? Allah gave the message to Gabriel and Gabriel gave it to Muhammad but for all the parts of the Quaran that were created by other followers long after the death of Muhammad.
@Cognostic
What are you talking about? Gabriel gave the message - so what? Is that polytheism?
@leper
You like to play word games when you write stuff.
@ trustyoursources
If your source is the Bible it is clear and simple.
There is only one God.
Nothing else is to be worshiped.
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Worship is not necessary for polytheism. Its worship and/or belief.
@Jo
Then prove your god is real.
@ xenoview
Can God be proven?
Can God be disproved?
@jo
So you're saying that you can't prove your god is real? As an Atheist, I have seen a lack of evidence that any god is real.
@ xenoview
No one can prove or disprove God.
Faulty questions do not prove anything.
Jo, if, as you say, no one can prove god, why in the wide, wide world of sports would you worship it then?
@ CyberLN
I could say I have lack of faith because it is not proven.
But I want more than that.
I think I have a responsibility to get the right answer.
This is with the understanding that the question cannot be proven either way.
I have tried to make the best choice using what I have.
I have tried very hard to put aside my biases.
And address the question head on without fear or favor.
I think that is the best way to address the question.
But my confidence in what I have concluded is much more that just philosophical or intellectual.
It is enhanced and confirmed to me by much personal experience.
Those experiences are very hard to translate into something another person can appreciate.
Just as it would not be hard for a man to "worship" his wife of over 30 years.
She has been faithful, loving, helpful, and a great blessing to him.
It would not seem like a duty, but a desire to appropriately appreciate her.
So it is with God who has been so wonderful to him.
JO: RE: "There is only one God."
No Place does the bible suggest that there is only one God. YOU ARE FACTUALLY WRONG. Why not read the frigging book. I listed many of the gods mentioned in the Bible above. I also referred you to the FIRST COMMANDMENT. It clearly admits the existence of other gods. 1. THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GODS "GODS" BEFORE ME. The bible never says that there is only one god, It only asserts that the believer should not worship any of the other gods. The bible is a HENOTHEISTIC DOCUMENT. There is no MONOTHEISM in the bible.
@ Cognostic
I have edited these for brevity, but included the full reference.
Deut 4:35
The LORD is God; besides him there is no other.
1 Chronicles 17:8
There is no one like you, LORD, and there is no God but you.
Isaiah 43:10
I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.
Isaiah 44:6
Israel’s King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty:
I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.
Isaiah 44:8
Is there any God besides me?
No, there is no other Rock; I know not one.’
Isaiah 45:5-6
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God.
People may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD, and there is no other.
Isaiah 45:21
There is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Saviour;
There is none but me.
Isaiah 45:22
I am God, and there is no other.
Rev 1:7
‘I am the Alpha and the Omega,’ says the Lord God, ‘
who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.’
Rev 4:1-3
A throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. And the one who sat there.
Rev 4:8
“Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty,” who was, and is, and is to come.’
Rev 19:15-16
The fierce wrath of God, the Almighty.
This title: King of all kings and Lord of all lords.
@jo
The bible is the claim that a god is real, not the evidence. Which god are you talking about? Can you give testable objective evidence any god is real?
@jo
Which god are you talking about? Your personal god?
@FYI: ALL - Not all Christian sects believe in a trinity. Not all Christian sects believe in a Divine Christ. Calling the trinity a reason for polytheism might work for some Christian sects but not all. I don't know any sects that do not believe in magical beings that influence the daily life of believers should they not be protected by the grace of the lord. (Not always in those words but it appears to me to be a general characteristic.) All previous gods are relegated to the realm of demon, angel, jin, etc.... And to the Christian mind, these, though they have magical powers and can act godlike, are not the Creator God of the universe, (The believers offer no evidence at all for this position but is seems to be prevalent.)
Hey brother you don't understand the difference between God and Creator.
God is one whom is being worshipped by people.
Creator is one who created all the world and is it custodian.
The mention of god near the names of some dieties is not made in the sense of implying "these many Gods exist other than YHWH" but only to mean that people worshipped such and such dieties. Also read 2 Kings 17:29, the Bible says that it was the several nations (implies races) invented their own Gods.
Nowhere in the Bible has it been mentioned that there is pantheon of creators. If you think there is try bringing it out. Read Isaiah 45:5-12
Re: "Nowhere in the Bible has it been mentioned that there is pantheon of creators. If you think there is try bringing it out."
Interesting.... Right there in the VERY BEGINNING...
Genesis 3:22
King James Bible:
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
Christian Standard Bible:
The LORD God said, "Since the man has become like one of us, knowing good and evil, he must not reach out, take from the tree of life, eat, and live forever."
Contemporary English Version:
The LORD said, "They now know the difference between right and wrong, just as we do. But they must not be allowed to eat fruit from the tree that lets them live forever."
@ Tin-Man
Keep reading. The next verse indicates who is doing what.
It is singular - "he". the".
Just as sometimes a King might say - "we have decided to attack".
The Royal We, or the Plural of Majesty.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we
An object reading of the Bible clearly, consistently, and overwhelming indicates one God.
You can't change that with one misunderstood word.
The same Us is also used in Genesis 1:26 also at the next verse it is said "So God made man in HIS image" so the US implies that He means the trinity and not the other Gods.
If you think that God Himself approves to the existence of other Gods and worked with them as the reference you have given implies tell me why is He getting angry when the Jews worshiped other gods?
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