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No just because i ask for actual debunking does not mean i want to believe it i have to keep stating this but never mind. I do like your comment on the where about's of the wheels though which is a reasonable comment i agree does sound a little suspect that it was never retrieved also what do you think the coral like structure depicted as two chariot wheels with a axle stood on its side is.
Spud.....
" what do you think the coral like structure depicted as two chariot wheels with a axle stood on its side is."
No idea...…. but it aint no chariot axle.....
look at the wheel base...…. compare it to the chariot in Tutankhamen's tomb...… the "coral" axle is way too short..... for the size of the wheels.... if you tried to turn a chariot on this wheel base at speed you'd end up over-turning and being thrown yards away.
Plus the "coral" wheels seem to have only 4 spokes while Tut's wheels have 6...… no ,whatever they are....they are not chariot wheels. Sorry.
what coral wheels have four spokes i know the gold ones have four spokes but i cant really find the four spoke coral wheels
@Spud....
Its an image posted on the WND site...…
https://www.wnd.com/2012/06/chariots-in-red-sea-irrefutable-evidence/
Looks to be a "reconstruction" showing what is supposed to be under the layer of coral.... but it seems to depict 4 spoke wheels.
so do you think that the gold wheels were in the red sea but are not from a chariot or do you think that the images are bunk and maybe the wheel was placed there or it was in a different place all together is the source of the finds ie ron wyatt a un reliable source and possibly lying
@Spudnik
If you think it isn't a hoax; I suggest you actually try to answer watchman's questions which I will paraphrase and extend below. If you want to convince us this would be a great start:
so would you say the coral structures are fake to.
Coral growth in a body of water is NOT an exceptional claim. It seems you are grasping at straw to prevent yourself from acknowledging that you have been duped by a joke.
No i mean the way that they are structured when looking at the structure they emphasise as being a complete axle with two wheels on its side it kind of does look odd the way it has two masses one at the bottom and another at the top which seems to look like a encrusted disc. The mass seems to thin toward the top like a pole then enlarges at the top does it not seem odd how such a shape would be formed by its self and also how such a mass of coral would be supported by such a thin structure toward the top without a support system on the inner side i don't know though.
@Spudnik
You've been hoaxed. Don't be embarrassed, instead learn from this experience. Don't be so credulous.
ok you don't get my point so we will leave it there but thank you for trying
Spudnik, just for the sake or argument, let us assume that there really is a golden chariot at that location. So what, what else can we truly say is more real than wild conjecture?
If it really existed, trust me a major excavation would be funded and it would be studied in extreme detail. This would be big news and make the headlines.
And for the record, the Exodus story is bunk. The Jewish tribes were there in Egypt, but not as slaves but workers and mercenaries. At that time the Egyptians used them to guard the northern delta while they warred with the kingdoms on the South Nile. The history of ancient Egypt was more about what happened between the North and South Nile.
Eventually those Jews did leave Egypt, but it was definitely not the Moses narrative.
WHY IN THE HELL DON'T YOU GO READ THE ARTICLES!!!!!!
"No i mean the way that they are structured when looking at the structure they emphasise as being a co......"
NOTHING YOU ARE SAYING MAKES ANY SENSE.
i have and all it says is that they are hoaxes ok some good debunking there
Your gullibility and overly credulous thirst for vapid hoaxes is deeply tiresome. Why the fuck do you bring them here? If looking an idiot is what you crave then I guess it's your life, but there other sites you can go to where they won't care how stupid your claims are, they will lap them up as you do, and they won't have to watch you fumble around in a fog of gullibility, or the fucking tortuous way you confuse the words to and too, or your annoying but typically theistic penchant for not using the fucking shift key or bothering with punctuation. Of course these details are as irrelevant to you as facts and proper evidence, epistemology or the burden of proof.
@ Sheldon
Well said. That is exactly the reason I just don't respond to Spudnik after supplying a link or debunking the shite he/she offers. Its as boring as Russian Tank's interminable "proof of jesus" fucking youtube shite.
For fucks sake...they can find this stupid shite for the terminally gullible surfing the grand interweb, but cant find fucking Snopes? Really?
I feel your pain, and that's all I can really say. It should be obvious why posters like this come here of all places with this nonsense. Just as obvious as why Breezy keeps coming here and making grandiose claims that he alone has evidenced "problems" with the scientific fact of species evolution that the entire scientific world has missed.
Bottom line....they think we're dumb, and they're smart, and you can't dent that kind of misplaced confidence with facts or evidence or rational debate, it's the Dunning Kruger effect.
First of all don't comment if you find it tiresome go comment on another topic. You choose to come here also this is a atheist site this is the place to come when talking about this type of topic but your of no help any way so your lack of presence on this thread would be of more use then your presence i find some of this stuff interesting to chat about but it is hard to get a decent convo going when you have to constantly reaffirm your interest not gullibility in the subject try not to be so on edge im asking questions not preaching you can just give it a pass so just chill.
I'll comment when and where and on whatever I am minded to, if you don't like that then don't come to a public forum.
"your of no help"
Well then allow to be of some help, your is not a fucking abbreviation of you are. Now I have helped you learn something new.
"i find some of this stuff interesting to chat about"
I don't care, it's mindless dross you've hoovered up from the internet, that is a relentless assault on the senses because you keep doing it, and when you spew it out here and are told so, you are impervious to every opinion that spells this out for you. The topic is dross, what is tedious is your relentless bias in believing such obvious hokum.
"im asking questions not preaching you can just give it a pass so just chill."
You're not asking questions at all, you have clearly made up your mind and are about as intransigent an individual as I've ever encountered, and thus you have no interest in any opinions that spell out the sheer gullible idiocy of your topic matter. Just re-read your inane responses to the people who have done what you seem incapable of doing, which is some cursory research into what is even prima facie a risible hoax.
"it is hard to get a decent convo going when you have to constantly reaffirm your interest not gullibility in the subject "
It is impossible for a cogent conversation to be conducted on such obvious vapid dross, and your blind fascination with it won't change this. It's like asking why dragons have scales, and linking a story off the internet making the claim. Then interminably rejecting every response that points out it's nonsense.
@ Spuds: i find some of this stuff interesting to chat about but it is hard to get a decent convo going when you have to constantly reaffirm your interest not gullibility in the subject .
No, it's not interesting. You have been told the exact same thing by multiple posters. This is not the place to discuss delusional bullshit without being called out on it. You have been told when the story started, by whom, and were it first appeared. It has been an Internet meme for over 10 years. You have been shown the articles and the research into the subject. Go READ THE ARTICLES. All your questions have been answered and still you keep harping on the same crap over and over and over.
LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE TELLING YOU!!!!!
Isn't gold a bit soft for wheels and axles?
I think that's Cleopatra's nightstand.
"If it is a Miracle, any sort of evidence will answer, but if it is a Fact, proof is necessary." - Mark Twain
What do you think of the fact that archaeologists concluded that Exodus was a myth decades ago due not only to the lack of evidence to support it but by looking at the evidence available and finding that somehow Egypt managed to miss the whole thing.
Ok i have another question but before i start if you do not like the topic i am questioning please don't be negative and leave comments that are derogative if you are un interested show it by your lack of interest. So i was talking to some one today about the red sea findings he claimed it was legit i said to him that it was odd how they retrieved nothing from the site after finding what some would consider to be great artefacts the person i was talking to said that they were not able to retrieve the objects and have them tested because it was illegal according to Egyptian archaeological policy and that they were not by law aloud to touch the findings so had to leave them there is this true or false thanks.
Couple of problems with that line of reasoning:
You still haven't answered the biggest question (imo): why does the blog (and other sites) falsely present photos from other locations as photos from the location in question?
Because the blog is a load of rubbish did Ron submit them photos or just the website.
Two good points so if say Ron submitted the supposed finds to a body to be tested would he have gotten in trouble for it for stealing or was it ok for him to remove the wheel from the site i mean would it of been ok if it was real
Ron did his diving in the 1970s when it were no impediments to removing them. He claimed he took the wheel to the Egyptian authorities and he claims they confirmed it was from the 18th dynasty. But he (nor any of his family) has ever been able to produce the wheel to anyone who can confirm it's existence. There are no photos of it either!
"So i was talking to some one today about the red sea findings and i said to them that it was odd how they retrieved nothing from the site after finding what some would consider to be great artefacts"
Unless it was a fucking hoax of course, then there would be nothing significant to retrieve.
"the person i was talking to said that they were not able to retrieve the objects and have them tested because it was illegal according to Egyptian archaeological policy"
Or it was fucking hoax, pot-ay-toe, pot-ah-toe....
"is this true or false thanks."
https://www.google.co.uk/
That's a link to Google, knock yourself out, it's your topic you do the research.
First point i was trying to make you took the wrong way i was trying to suggest that it was a bit strange for instance that they did not retrieve it even though they said they had found artefacts you put it across that i am suggesting they found some artefacts .
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