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Spudnik "you put it across that i am suggesting they found some artefacts ."
That isn't a suggestion, it is precisely what you claimed in your OP.
Wed, 10/03/2018 - 12:48
Spudnik "Hi what do you guys think of the *gold plated chariot found* at the bottom of the dead sea "
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Spudnik "it was a bit strange for instance that they did not retrieve it"
No it isn't strange at all, because there would be nothing to retrieve if this were a hoax, as it patently was.
That is what i am saying to the other person yes if there was something there they would have gotten it and if they did not then it would have been a bit strange you know what i mean please tell me you get that .
You opened the thread claiming something was found, but can't demonsteate any evidence.
In what way is it's strange there is no evidence? It's what you'd expect if it were a hoax. Are you now saying you don't believe anything was found?
Even if something were found this doesn't in anyway validate the biblical story of Exodus, as you had earlier implied. So are you also now saying you accept this claims doesn't offer objective evidence for the bible at all?
also you have mixed to things together the op was not any thing to do with my convo i had
When a site is uncovered, archaeologists have to consider if it should be explored further or protected. They recognize that excavation by its very nature is a destructive act, and thus need to consider if the possible knowledge gained through excavation outweighs the risk of destruction caused by any excavation.
You keep talking of "Red Sea findings" etc. and what so-and-so has said, but you are not actually providing any evidence.
" you are not actually providing any evidence."
He doesn't understand what constitutes evidence, I suspect he never will, and I am seriously dubious that he even cares. Each time he's told he ignores it and rolls on. Eventually he'll lose interest in this one, then like a puppy losing interest in chasing his shadow, he'll launch himself into another facile specious hoax he's vacuumed up off the internet. It is tedious because he doesn't listen. and is probably incapable of listening because he refuses to understanding what constitutes objective evidence, as like all superstitious nutjobs this doesn't suit his agenda.
I am not saying it is true so i am not trying to prove it is true i am looking at the photos and simply posing questions as to why they are fake i agree chances are they are fake. The problem is that a couple of people on here seem to just say oh they are hoaxes from 10 years ago so they are hoaxes you got hoaxed your gullible look at the website provided that also says it is a hoax with no explanation as to why. There are photos and videos of these things they found is that credible enough evidence to say the sea parted no but doesnt mean we cant talk about these photos with out getting paranoid.
Wed, 10/03/2018 - 12:48
Spudnik "Hi what do you guys think of the gold plated chariot found at the bottom of the dead sea because it was gold plated does it mean it was pharos chariot apparently only pharos had gold plated chariots. Thank you for any replies in advance.
So firstly that is not how you spell Pharaoh. Secondly you absolutely have made claims in that post.
"you got hoaxed your gullible look at the website provided that also says it is a hoax with no explanation as to why. "
Secondly your is not a fucking abbreviation of you are. Lastly what a risible lie, multiple posters have explained why it is probably a hoax.
"There are photos and videos of these things they found"
Oh so now you're back to making a claim? I'll dumb this down for you, there are photos and videos of mermaids, is that evidence for mermaids?
" doesnt mean we cant talk about these photos with out getting paranoid."
You don't know what paranoia means do you? You realise you can Google word definitions right?
That was one of the excuses mentioned in one of the articles. NOW GO BACK AND READ THE REBUTTAL. (Damn you're thick.) Why don't you just read the links that have been provided to you.
Hi so is it illegal if a person digs up a artefact then removes it for testing do all artefacts that have been found have to be left at the site is it possible that rons dig was not permitted and so if he sent the artefacts of for testing then he may have gotten in trouble so did not bother.
It would be illegal for an unauthorized excavation at a site that has been established as having archaeological importance. It would also be illegal to remove an archaeological artifact without permission of the Egyptian state: https://www.cemml.colostate.edu/cultural/09476/laws10egyptenl.html
Removing an artifact from where it was found without detailing its context completely destroys its worth as a document of the site's history.
@ Spudnik.
"is it possible that rons dig was not permitted and so if he sent the artefacts of for testing then he may have gotten in trouble so did not bother."
No.
So since Rons visit to the site was in 1970 and the videos and photos of these objects at the bottom of the red sea were videos and photos from 2000 then the source was from two different people or groups so would it be fair to say that we should be talking about these people that took photos and video and not Ron. Did this group of people find any thing and retrieve any thing and are these people trust worthy sources also who are they many thanks .
You haven't linked any videos (or photos from 2000), so I don't know what you are talking about. In fact the only thing you've given us is a link to a blog which you have since repudiated. So you've given us nothing.
" Did this group of people find any thing and retrieve any thing and are these people trust worthy sources also who are they many thanks ."
DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH!
Sheldon has hit rock bottom!!!! Congratulations!!! I am putting this date in my calendar! The day Sheldon finally had enough of the theist BULLSHIT!
People are still talking about a hoax?
If it was real the news would be talking about it.
Precisely what I tried to explain on page 1. What is it about theists like spudnik and Breezy that think paradigm shifting events in our understanding of the universe can occur, but only be noticed by a few delusional cranks on the internet?
Ok so there is a short video on youtube it is a short snippet of a longer movie that is about the red sea chariots here is the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzb4ekyX1kc the video is 2:55 long and is called More Evidence of Chariot Wheels in the Red Sea Found in 2000 if they did find something would it of been illegal to retrieve it for testing would they of had to leave the findings at the bottom of the sea un disturbed also pretty much all the coral photos including the table top looking one was a photo taken by these guys the golden wheel supposedly was not are these guys to be trusted or are they fraud what you guys think.
100% fraud. I've been hearing this shit for almost 40 years... Every few years someone claims they found chariot/wheels in the Red Sea. It's a hoax! Got any idea how many people have claimed to find Noah's Ark? Got to be more than 100.
Here's a YouTube link showing mermaids, ffs.
https://youtu.be/bSG3kPa-jOU
Serious scientific or archaeological discoveries don't break exclusively on fucking YouTube.
Christ on a bike why are you unable to muster even a semblance of critical reasoning.
For info.....
Check out the remains of Ron Wyatt "Museum" site...….
http://wyattmuseum.com/discovering/noahs-ark
follow the link to his organisations "discoveries" ….. which include The Red Sea Crossing , The Ark of the Covenant , Noah's Ark ,Sodom & Gomorrah , Mount Sinai and exactly how the Pyramids were built. and much much more...
So.… every one can pack it in now...… all the highly trained ,highly educated ,highly qualified archaeologists they can go home.... all the scholars ,historians ,researchers ….pack it all away.... its all been done by good old Ron.... the amateur treasure hunter...ex nurse/ anaesthetist …..he found it all...…..
or not , as the case may be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt
So did these chariots have a axle that was made out of wood and were they only 1.75m from wheel to wheel.
Do you know what a question mark is for?
@ Spudnik
So did these chariots have a axle that was made out of wood and were they only 1.75m from wheel to wheel.
there were no chariots discovered.
The dimensions of Egyptian War Chariots varied from the times of the introduction of Horses to the end of the Pharanoic times. There is a ton of info on them both online and in any good library.
Look it up, become an expert.
He's not interested in acquiring erudition. He's only interested in reaffirming his a priori religious beliefs. Every time one of his tedious myths or hoaxes is knocked back he just skips on to the next one. Most of the time he doesn't have the courtesy to acknowledge posters who have done the cursory research he should be doing before torturing us with another of his online fables. He'll never change.
What are you talking about sorry if you need a question mark to know when a question is being asked i will make sure i do that for you now even though it is obvious that the post was a question and are you some sort of online bully because you are following me around like one . When one of my tedious myths are knocked back i move on to the next one yea that might have something to do with the fact that i except the logic when good logic is given then i move on to another subject because i am not here to defend any of these myths only to get good answers i might be able to move on to better subjects if you stopped following me around #creepy also thank you so so much for your comment makes me feel great :) the intelligent words in your comments really shows how intelligent you are ;) wonderful.
Yeah I stopped reading when the first sentence had no punctuation, and suggested a question mark was a personal preference.
It's your call champ, continue to post as if you're a 12 year old girl texting her besty if you want, but given the vapid nature of your thread topics it's just another reason to point and laugh. You asked for help, now you're shooting the messenger. The best help I can give you is that your is not an abbreviation of you are, and that to and too, are two very different words.
"are you some sort of online bully because you are following me around like one . "
No, I have just lost patience with you flooding the forum with the same specious nonsense in multiple threads and ignoring the answers. You say thank you, but then carry on as if you haven't understood what was said. You claim you understand, but then immediately post a new thread with the same kind of specious vapid claim.
"that might have something to do with the fact that i except the logic "
Sigh, you don't except (sic) something, you accept something, for the love of Christ get a spell checker.
"if you stopped following me around #creepy "
It's a public forum, and you are flooding the place with the same vapid posts, no one is following you anywhere. You came here you clown. Please tell me this was a joke?
Na your just a pathetic cyber bully ridiculing people for there inabilities rather than being humble about how extremely intelligent you are you put others down with your fantastic literacy. Your ability to discuss is beyond normal it is incredible i am inspired. I was debating a christian on a forum about these topics and guess what i blew him out of the water with my arguments for debunking this you know what i said Sheldon said this was vapid ;)
"Na your just a pathetic cyber bully "
I love the irony when theists call me a bully in the same sentence they insult me. Fuck me how many times do you have to be told your is not an abbreviation of you are? It's not your inability that is the issue, it's your intransigent refusal to learn anything new that doesn't feed your belief in superstitious myths.
"rather than being humble about how extremely intelligent you are you put others down with your fantastic literacy. "
I'm not any of that is true, but I fail to see how humility helps validate anything. I don't see especially what intelligence has to do with it either, arguments stand or fail on their own merits or not at all.
" Your ability to discuss is beyond normal it is incredible i am inspired. "
Again I'm dubious about that first claim, try telling SFT or John Breezy, they'll get a real belly laugh out of that. However it's great that you're inspired, but try to be inspired to think critically, and treat all claims with scepticism and motives with suspicion, and dismiss all claims and beliefs presented without evidence. Until you do you're just cannon fodder for proselytising theists, and religions in general. Distrust your own motives as well, our own bias is as likely to fool us as any one else's if we don't accept all ideas must remain tentative, even well established facts, just as science does.
"I was debating a christian on a forum about these topics and guess what i blew him out of the water with my arguments for debunking this you know what i said Sheldon said this was vapid"
I'm dubious, most of the theists I encounter seem to venerate beliefs that are held without any substantive or objective reason or evidence, vapid beliefs seem to be something they wear as a badge of honour. There is even a line of apologetics that asserts something is more believable because it is absurdly unlikely to be true.
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