End Religion, and Be Done with Debate

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End Religion, and Be Done with Debate

I hate debating, it automatically implies that I still haven’t achieved victory. There are some that love nothing more than to argue, that’s cool I guess; but then what? Like most of you I once loved to point out how religion was flawed, but then I realized I had no end game; and I was picking on the “crippled” kid. If those people knew better they’d do better, but what is the excuse of atheist?

If you would like to hear the 3 steps required to completely end all religion forever, please reply. And before some smart-ass waste my time with nonsense, know that I’ve already completed the first two steps. I would love to hear from serious intelligent people…that’s serious AND intelligent. Morality can be calculated, experience can be graphed; and no religion can stand up to the idea of a "perfect god".

For those of you that may think I’m joking, google me: “Khendwa Dhomaila”, “Dilemmic Mathematics”, “Soulastic Science”. I’ll check the forum daily for replies.

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watchman's picture
@Dohmaila......

@Dhomaila......

"For those of you that may think I’m joking, google me: "

My opinion ...?

I don't think your joking.........

I don't see anything amusing in this at all....

I think your self advertisement is extremely "suspect".....

I get hints of Scientology ...with just a soupçon of snake oil...

Just my opinion you understand....... but no...... I don't think so ....its been done before and done better...... Thank you for your visit.!

Dhomaila's picture
Clearly you are not as

Clearly you are not as serious as you think. I have no religion at all, and I have been threatened by religion. As far as self- advertising goes…who cares? If it was you that actually had a solution, I’d be promoting your discovery. Like I said in the original post, “serious” replies.
If math can be used to answer the exact same questions as religions…now they are fighting calculators. When last is checked, algebra, geometry, and trig were taught to student worldwide. This is the problem with this movement, you want to fight…but not win. Are there any winners here?

Dhomaila's picture
Furthermore, I don’t like the

Furthermore, I don’t like the term “atheist”. This label suggest that you would be nothing; and have nothing to say if it were not for your opponents. I’m no one’s shadow.

watchman's picture
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Dhomaila's picture
Next please? Theist are

Next please? Theist are highly organized, extraordinarily motivated; and well-funded. Every person in this forum is correct, but we have not figured out a way to prove we are. Here silly rabbit:
Dilemmic mathematics is the study of the changes in life’s problems in their [fractional] form. Dilemmic connectivity is the concept which states; “every facet of life is derived from or associated with changes in life’s problems”. By [every], I mean emotions, relationships, morality, choices, motivations, etc. Here is an idea to chew on… if choices, morality, motivations, emotional experiences, and relationships are removed from any religion on Earth, what’s remaining??? NOTHING.

chimp3's picture
Dhomalia : Here is an idea

Dhomalia : Here is an idea to chew on… if choices, morality, motivations, emotional experiences, and relationships are removed from any religion on Earth, what’s remaining??? NOTHING.

Religion is human made. This so called equation says that if you removed what is human from religion nothing would remain. I have been saying that since I was thirteen years old. Now you call this logic Dilemmic mathematics and expect us to pay you for it. You may convince a gulllible fool or two but I have no respect for your claims to authority. If you care to debate your concepts among peers and demonstrate a level of expertise perhaps I may purchase a book. At this point I doubt I would spend a dime.

Here is the problem with logic and philosophy :

A+B=C , therefore C-B must equal A . This is a valid argument.

Now , think of A as a sperm cell and B as an egg. A joins B and now AB is C (a fertilized egg). There is no way to subtract A or B from C . You will have neither A,B,or C if you try to separate them.

Dhomaila's picture
Dilemmic mathematics explores

Dilemmic mathematics explores the changes in life’s problems using equations; and logical deduction. Math is a language which describes how reality moves and changes; and we use math to predict what will happen next. The ripple effects of changing problems produce life as we know it. Soulastic science observes, organizes, and analyzes these secondary effects. Our emotions, spirituality, economies, and families are only possible because of changing problems.

chimp3's picture
Daniel Dennett uses the term

Daniel Dennett uses the term "deepity" to explain the type of language you are using here. "The term deepity refers to a statement that is apparently profound but actually asserts a triviality on one level and something meaningless on another. Generally, a deepity has (at least) two meanings: one that is true but trivial, and another that sounds profound, but is essentially false or meaningless and would be "earth-shattering" if true. To the extent that it's true, it doesn't matter. To the extent that it matters, it isn't true."

Can you please expound on this apparent deepity : "Our emotions, spirituality, economies, and families are only possible because of changing problems"

Why are my family and emotions only possible because of changing problems?

Explain also : "The ripple effects of changing problems produce life as we know it"

How is life as we know it produced from a ripple effect of changing problems?

Nyarlathotep's picture
Could you post something more

Could you post something more substantial on your topic of "dilemmic mathematics"? Your website/blog does not provide much info on it. Perhaps a simple example?

Dhomaila's picture
Dilemmic mathematics explores

Dilemmic mathematics explores the changes in life’s problems using equations; and logical deduction. Math is a language which describes how reality moves and changes; and we use math to predict what will happen next. The ripple effects of changing problems produce life as we know it. Soulastic science observes, organizes, and analyzes these secondary effects. Our emotions, spirituality, economies, and families are only possible because of changing problems.

In dilemmic math, problems are technically referred to as dilemmas; and are exclusive to living things. A dilemma is actually the connection between a living thing, and one of its constantly changing environments. This relationship is expressed mathematically as a fraction. In the fraction, the needs of problems are the numerators; and the available resources are the denominators. The fractional form of dilemmas allows different operations to be employed; and for many powerful questions to be answered.

Dilemmic math employs other categories of mathematics to explore the changes in the fractional form of problems. The resources within the dilemmic expression are always current; and this makes time a coefficient of all problems. From the fraction, arithmetic, algebra, geometry, and trigonometry are used to extract answers. The use of multiple mathematic disciplines allows soulastic students to observe changes in dilemmas from several perspectives.

These mathematical answers are directly related to life's dynamics; and become the foundations of a solid life education. Dilemmics, as it is also known, is based on the idea that life and dilemmas are exclusively connected; and inseparable. The concept of dilemmic connectivity says, “all areas of life are derived from dilemmas to some degree”. Dilemmics is at the heart of soulastic science, and it allows students to independently test soulastic concepts; and formulas. Soulastic Academy students can challenge anything we teach in our courses.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Could you post a sample

Could you post a sample calculation. You know, some meat and potatoes?

mykcob4's picture
Looks like you are a troll

Looks like you are a troll and a scam artist.

mykcob4's picture
1st of all you can curb that

1st of all you can curb that pseudo-macho bullshit.
2nd You may think yourself an intellectual but you haven't proved that to be the case. All you have proved is that you are arrogant and selling something.
3rd you make assumptions about people here that is completely way off, which tells me you don't know a damn thing about life, therefore you don't know a damn thing about what you are talking about.

I clicked on your links and they provide nothing...absolutely nothing. It's like theist professing that they know something that has been revealed to them by a myth. They are full of bullshit and so are you!

Dhomaila's picture
Whatever unites religion as a

Whatever unites religion as a whole, ends religion forever. Here’s my plan, where is yours?
http://www.soulasticacademy.com/#!article-3-page/md8l6

Dhomaila's picture
Our spirituality is the most

Our spirituality is the most misunderstood facet of life. This confusion has caused wars and violent disputes from more ancient times to the present day. Thanks to the discovery of dilemmic mathematics, and the development of soulastic science, we have a clear method to permanently answer common spiritual questions. Mathematics is universally trusted; and used by every faith on Earth.

It all comes down to the pillars of life, and their role in religious teachings. The four pillars of life are: choices, experiences, relationships, and morality. These pillars support every facet of our recognizable lives; and no theological system can exist without all four. Soulastic science studies the dynamics between these four pillars of life; and there are a handful of equations explaining these dynamic connections. These four pillars of life are common to all religions; and this means soulastics applies to all faiths.

At the heart of spirituality, corporate policies, and legal systems is the science of morality. Morality is all about shifting priority back and forth between ourselves and other people. The timing and energy associated with the shift determines "right" and "wrong" in any situation. This is why a large portion of ethics related courses are found in our orange zone of life. The orange zone combines the red and yellow zone topics; and leads to a wider range of course topics. Once a student has complete the core mechanics series they're free to advance to all secondary zone courses.

I'm waiting for your reply. this is free on the school site. what are you so scared of?

mykcob4's picture
I suggest we kicked this

I suggest we kicked this asshole Dhomaila off the site. He is just selling bullshit and is of no value to the forum.

Dhomaila's picture
That level of thinking is why

That level of thinking is why “they” are still winning; and yes, they’re WINNING. Mathematical equations are to free-thinkers what “scriptures” are to the imprisoned minds within congregations. Even if I accept the fact you distrustful my work, and I accept that you are suspicious of my motives; I could not forgive your ignorance on this simple point.
The only weapons of atheist and free thinkers are logic and math. Look around this forum, or any atheist forum, and you’ll notice math is not often included in conversations and debates. Yet, you would be hard pressed to find a religious forum where multiple scriptures are quoted regularly. If distrust my math, revise it, or disprove it; but don’t “religiously” reject what you are uncomfortable with. As a child I once thought of atheism as another form of religion, and you guys are making my point.
My life and the lives of my children have been under threat from religious fanatics for years now. Ending religious based conflicts, and making the world safer for my family…. There’s my motivations. Now here is my work in the form of questions and answers. I hope atheist are smart enough to get this correct; because religion scholars understood what I was doing, then marked me for death.
1. “What would happen if there was no way to distinguish one religion from another; and all theological exclusivity was lost?” [Answer: religious text would lose authority and congregations would lose the ability to organize around any religious identity]

2. “What would happen to theology if morality, choices, emotional experience, and relationship were to become scientific subjects; and could be mathematically explained?” [Answer: religion would go extinct within (3) generations]

3. “What would it take to accomplish 1 & 2 on this list of questions and answers?” [Answer: find the common link between those “spiritual” elements listed above. Then give the common link a mathematical structure, and call it “Dilemmic Mathematics & soulastic science”]

P.S. I’ve made my work free… Preview the Book Free… Review my research Free… My Videos Free. There two types of atheist, the first wants peace but understand religion will never take us there. The second type is actually a “theist” that became upset with his parents. The later of these two is often angry; and post things like “f*ck God, I hate Jesus, and Muhammad was a !?@3#”. The next round of responses on this thread should sort out the people with mommy and daddy issues from the free-thinkers.

Dhomaila's picture
In dilemmic math, problems

In dilemmic math, problems are technically referred to as dilemmas; and are exclusive to living things. A dilemma is actually the connection between a living thing, and one of its constantly changing environments. This relationship is expressed mathematically as a fraction. In the fraction, the needs of problems are the numerators; and the available resources are the denominators. The fractional form of dilemmas allows different operations to be employed; and for many powerful questions to be answered.

doubleAtheist's picture
Looked at the links, pages

Looked at the links, pages look like absolute shit, when scamming people, please use a pleasing to the eye website. Learn from Trump!

Dhomaila's picture
Did you take the time to read

Did you take the time to read, or just look at the colors and pictures?

Dilemmic mathematics explores the changes in life’s problems using equations; and logical deduction. Math is a language which describes how reality moves and changes; and we use math to predict what will happen next. The ripple effects of changing problems produce life as we know it. Soulastic science observes, organizes, and analyzes these secondary effects. Our emotions, spirituality, economies, and families are only possible because of changing problems.

In dilemmic math, problems are technically referred to as dilemmas; and are exclusive to living things. A dilemma is actually the connection between a living thing, and one of its constantly changing environments. This relationship is expressed mathematically as a fraction. In the fraction, the needs of problems are the numerators; and the available resources are the denominators. The fractional form of dilemmas allows different operations to be employed; and for many powerful questions to be answered.

Dilemmic math employs other categories of mathematics to explore the changes in the fractional form of problems. The resources within the dilemmic expression are always current; and this makes time a coefficient of all problems. From the fraction, arithmetic, algebra, geometry, and trigonometry are used to extract answers. The use of multiple mathematic disciplines allows soulastic students to observe changes in dilemmas from several perspectives.

These mathematical answers are directly related to life's dynamics; and become the foundations of a solid life education. Dilemmics, as it is also known, is based on the idea that life and dilemmas are exclusively connected; and inseparable. The concept of dilemmic connectivity says, “all areas of life are derived from dilemmas to some degree”. Dilemmics is at the heart of soulastic science, and it allows students to independently test soulastic concepts; and formulas. Soulastic Academy students can challenge anything we teach in our courses.

doubleAtheist's picture
Of course i will judge your

Of course i will judge your website by its looks, the first impression on a site is important..

CyberLN's picture
Bupkus, L. Ron, oops, I mean

Bupkus, L. Ron, oops, I mean Dhomailia, pure bupkus.

Dhomaila's picture
Here we go again. I’m

Here we go again. I’m beginning to see a pattern. You guys have completely given up, because you have failed for so long. I get that. Here is a step by step, then I must go to work…paying bills and whatnot. Below is basic dilemmics and soulastics. If a child learns this early…they’ll never have a religion to convince them that 2 plus 6 equals 87.
[ Facts for example below: Jane and Kim are roommates and the bills are divided equally each month.]

{ The Event: Kim see this cute pair of very expensive shoes, but the only way to afford the purchase is to shortchange her roommate Jane. Kim debates and weighs her options, but eventually chooses to buy the shoes. She goes home and breaks the news about the missing money to her roommate; and then shows Jane the new shoes.}
Three Questions of Soulastic Science:
1. What is the source problem?
2. How did the source problem change during the given period of time?
3. What are the effect of these dilemmic changes?
Instructions- use basic algebra and geometry to answer the following question (Calculators are permitted)

• Graph Jane’s emotional experiences the point Kim delivered the news about the missing bill money.
• Using a coordinate graph, explain how Kim’s choices shifted from “virtuous” to “corrupt”
• Using the dilemmic expression, give to different options within Kim’s range that could have solved her problem.
If you wait until I get off work this evening I’ll explain it to you; or go to any of the links and “read”.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Dhomaila - 'If you wait until

Dhomaila - 'If you wait until I get off work this evening I’ll explain it to you; or go to any of the links and “read”.'

Well I hope you actually post the details, because I can't make heads or tails out of it, and I checked your blog and youtube channel and didn't find any details about this mathematics you've been speaking about (it is possible it's there and I missed it).

chimp3's picture
Dhomaili :

Dhomaili :

"• Graph Jane’s emotional experiences the point Kim delivered the news about the missing bill money.
• Using a coordinate graph, explain how Kim’s choices shifted from “virtuous” to “corrupt”
• Using the dilemmic expression, give to different options within Kim’s range that could have solved her problem"

Attempting to reduce this mundane and all to common bad room mate scenario to algebraic notation does not appeal to me or seem possible. An assignment of numerical value to any of the above variables is arbitrary and just plain silly. Not only do I doubt your mathematical skills but I highly doubt your intellectual grasp of the basic problems of humanity. I am glad you revealed this tiny tidbit. Now , I am done with you sir. Nice try!

ThePragmatic's picture
If you think religion could

If you think religion could just be "ended", you are deluding yourself with a pipe dream.

But that is not what we as a global civilization are in need of either. Organized religion has to loose all special rights (tax exemption, automatic tithing, legal protection, etc), and be removed from politics and any influence on science and public education. Religion doesn't have to "end", it just has to stay in the faith-zone.

In short, religion has to sit at the kids table, where you're allowed to pretend to know just about anything you can make up.

mykcob4's picture
Dhomaila is just one of

Dhomaila is just one of several goofballs that have entered this forum. I suspect a sock puppet given the similarity of recent post. We should ban this guy and systematically root out the rest of the sock puppets.

charvakheresy's picture
@ Dhomaila : Actually most of

@ Dhomaila : Actually most of us here would agree that we love to argue. Honestly we really do like debating. We are all very different but the one thing we do usually agree upon is that we dislike anyone who does not like a good argument or worse those that state their claims are beyond argument.

Secondly When you say they are winning I assume you mean the theists. For some reason you think we are at war with them and want to convert everyone to atheism. Atheism is not a religion. there is no conversion. If people feel religion has no basis in truth or logic they are atheists. We want equal recognition not mass conversion.(by the way your personal profile claims you to be a theist, so it would seem you are here just to instigate, I could be wrong).

Finally I went through your website but it was too much of a generalisation. I liked the idea of being able to use math to analyse practical situations and would really like it if you could finish that example. I don't know how you could claim that it will eradicate religion. Most likely it is probably just a sales gimmick. But there may be merit in your math.

mykcob4's picture
There is no merit in his math

There is no merit in his math or his argument. If he were legit he would be published in science and math journals, not making wild generalized claims unsupported on forums. He is a sock puppet with zero credibility.

ThePragmatic's picture
@ Dhomaila

@ Dhomaila

Nyarlathotep has asked for an example of your "math", why not just give one? Why the deepity tap dancing?

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