For JoC: God's Nastiest Turd

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For JoC: God's Nastiest Turd

I start this new thread specifically for jonthecatholic, better known as JoC.

In the first response, I give him the challenge to find God's Nastiest Turd.


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@ JoC

And here is something for you. Your God of the Bible.

  • Jealous, and proud of it; he even says his name is JEALOUS;
  • A petty, unjust, unforgiving, domineering tyrant;
  • A brutal, cruel, vindictive, and bloodthirsty ethnic/religious cleanser;
  • A misogynistic racist;
  • An infanticidal, filicidal, homicidal maniac;
  • A megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, malevolent psychopath;
  • and ALL of the above is due to his suffering an inferiority complex, schizophrenic delusion, and narcissistic personality.

Above was compiled and paraphrased from Richard Dawkins The God Delusion.

A listing of Biblical Proofs of above

And why don't you do us all a favor. Why don't you go diving into the septic tank and you pick out what you feel is the nastiest turd...

Additionally, "I" defined each term without the aid of a dictionary. If you disagree with any of "my" definitions, too bad. Your problem, not mine.

Aborticidal: the killing of an unborn fetus, an abortifacient. Abortifacient: causing abortion.
Hosea 13:16
Numbers 5:21–22
Hosea 9:11–16

Angry: having a strong feeling of or showing annoyance, displeasure, or hostility.
Zephaniah 3:8
Deuteronomy 32:22
Isaiah 63:3
Deuteronomy 29:18–20
Deuteronomy 6:14–15
Deuteronomy 11:16
Jeremiah 44:3
1 Kings 14:9–10
1 Kings 22:53
Jeremiah 44:7–8
2 Kings 17:11
Jeremiah 25:6–7
Numbers 25:3
2 Chronicles 34:25
2 Kings 22:17
2 Chronicles 25:15
Joshua 23:16
1 Kings 16:13
2 Chronicles 28:25
Psalm 78:58–59
2 Kings 23:19
1 Kings 16:26
Jeremiah 8:19
Ezekiel 38:19
Micah 5:14–15
Ezekiel 5:13
Ezekiel 36:6
Ezekiel 16:38–43
Zechariah 8:2
Zechariah 1:14–15
Nahum 1:2
Ezekiel 20:8
Isaiah 42:25
Zechariah 10:3
Jeremiah 7:18
Exodus 22:20–24
Lamentations 4:11
Exodus 32:9–10
Joshua 7:26
Joshua 7:1
Numbers 11:1
Psalm 69:24
Psalm 21:9
Psalm 89:46
Isaiah 9:19
Jeremiah 21:12
Jeremiah 4:4
Jeremiah 15:14
Jeremiah 17:4
Lamentations 4:11
Ezekiel 22:31
Zephaniah 3:8
Ezekiel 21:31–32
Nahum 1:6
Hosea 8:5
Isaiah 66:15
Jeremiah 21:5–6
Ezekiel 21:5–17
Jeremiah 30:23–24
Lamentations 2:1–4
2 Samuel 22:8–9
Jeremiah 23:19–20
Psalm 18:7–8
Job 4:9
Ezekiel 22:20–22
Job 16:9
Exodus 15:6–8
Ezekiel 7:2
Psalm 2:4–6
Isaiah 30:27,30,33
Isaiah 63:1–6
Job 21:17–20
Jeremiah 25:15
Job 9:4–6
Jeremiah 10:10
Isaiah 51:17
Isaiah 5:25
Isaiah 13:13
Jeremiah 7:20
Deuteronomy 11:16–17
Leviticus 26:27–29
Jeremiah 4:26–27
Jeremiah 50:25
Ezekiel 14:19
Isaiah 13:2–6
Isaiah 59:17
Isaiah 10:4–6
Ezekiel 5:15–16
Numbers 22:22–30
Isaiah 10:24–26
Lamentations 3:1–3
1 Samuel 11:6–7
Isaiah 13:9–10
Ezekiel 13:12–15
Jeremiah 12:13
Deuteronomy 29:22–24
Ezekiel 23:25
Deuteronomy 29:27–28
Proverbs 16:14
Job 20:21–23
Deuteronomy 7:3–4
Habakkuk 3:12
Ezra 9:14
1 Chronicles 13:10
Nehemiah 13:18
Ezra 10:14
Jeremiah 4:4
2 Samuel 6:6–7
Isaiah 34:2
2 Kings 17:17
Judges 2:14
Psalm 2:11–12
Numbers 32:13–14
2 Kings 21:6
Ezekiel 20:21
Judges 3:8
2 Kings 13:3
Judges 2:20
2 Kings 17:18
Judges 10:7
Deuteronomy 9:7–8
Joshua 22:18
1 Kings 11:9
Deuteronomy 9:19–22
1 Kings 14:15
Ezekiel 9:8
2 Samuel 24:1
Jeremiah 11:17
Ezekiel 20:13
Jeremiah 52:3
Jeremiah 44:6–7
2 Kings 21:14–15
Psalm 79:5–6
Psalm 80:4
Numbers 11:33
Isaiah 64:9
Jonah 3:9
Ezekiel 24:13
Psalm 85:3–5
Psalm 78:49–50
Psalm 78:38
Malachi 1:2–4
Isaiah 54:8
Zechariah 1:12
Job 9:13
Leviticus 26:28
Zechariah 8:14
Psalm 7:11
Psalm 6:1
Psalm 56:7
Psalm 7:6
Psalm 38:1
2 Kings 23:26
Psalm 74:1
Psalm 59:13
Psalm 78:21–22
Psalm 79:2
Psalm 60:1
Psalm 76:7–8
Psalm 88:16
Psalm 88:6–7
Psalm 90:11
Psalm 89:38
Psalm 102:9–10
Psalm 90:7
Psalm 106:29
Psalm 110:5
Deuteronomy 31:17
Ezekiel 38:18
Jeremiah 7:29
Psalm 106:40–41
Numbers 11:10
Jeremiah 32:29–32
1 Kings 16:1–3
Numbers 12:9
1 Kings 16:33
1 Kings 16:7
1 Kings 21:22
Exodus 4:14
2 Kings 21:14–15
Hosea 5:10
Job 42:7
2 Kings 22:13
Ezekiel 24:8
Isaiah 1:24
Nahum 1:6
Ezekiel 36:18
Ezekiel 30:15
Ezekiel 22:22
Jeremiah 10:25
Jeremiah 6:11
Jeremiah 42:18
Ezekiel 7:3
Ezekiel 6:12–13
Ezekiel 20:33–35
2 Chronicles 34:21
2 Chronicles 19:2
Numbers 16:46
Ezra 7:23
2 Chronicles 32:26
2 Chronicles 29:8–10
2 Chronicles 19:10
Numbers 25:4
2 Chronicles 12:12
Isaiah 9:12
Isaiah 9:21
2 Chronicles 30:8
Proverbs 24:17–18
Jeremiah 4:8
Numbers 11:10
Deuteronomy 4:21
Deuteronomy 3:26
Deuteronomy 1:34–37
2 Chronicles 28:9–11
2 Kings 24:20
Job 20:28
Ezra 8:22
Job 19:11
Ezra 5:12
Isaiah 47:6
Ecclesiastes 5:6
Jeremiah 32:37
Isaiah 12:1
Isaiah 57:17
Isaiah 51:20
Jeremiah 33:5
Jeremiah 49:37
Jeremiah 50:13
Jeremiah 36:7
Lamentations 2:6
Jeremiah 51:45
Lamentations 1:12
Ezekiel 25:14
Ezekiel 43:8
Lamentations 3:42–44
Hosea 13:11
Ezekiel 25:17
Daniel 9:16
Habakkuk 3:8
Zechariah 7:12
Micah 7:9
Zephaniah 2:1–3
Zechariah 1:2

Bloodthirsty: eager to shed blood and containing much violence.
Isaiah 34:6
Leviticus 17:11
Deuteronomy 32:39–43
Ezekiel 39:17–18
Isaiah 34:2–3
Exodus 24:4–6
Jeremiah 46:10
Jeremiah 48:1,10
Ezekiel 5:17
Ezekiel 35:6
Ezekiel 3:16,20
Ezekiel 16:38
Ezekiel 32:6
Ezekiel 14:19
Ezekiel 28:22–23
Ezekiel 24:8
Leviticus 20:11–12
Leviticus 20:13
Ezekiel 38:22–23
2 Kings 9:33–37
Leviticus 20:16
Leviticus 20:27
1 Kings 2:9
Joel 2:30
Leviticus 20:9
Zephaniah 1:17
Isaiah 63:6
Leviticus 1:5
Leviticus 1:10–11
Exodus 29:15–16
Exodus 30:10
Leviticus 3:2
Leviticus 1:15
Leviticus 4:5
Leviticus 3:13
Leviticus 3:8
Leviticus 4:7
Leviticus 4:16–18
Leviticus 5:9
Leviticus 9:12
Leviticus 8:30
Leviticus 7:14
Leviticus 9:18
Leviticus 16:27
2 Chronicles 29:22–24
Exodus 29:10–12
Leviticus 17:6
Numbers 18:17
Leviticus 4:6
Leviticus 4:17
Leviticus 4:34
Leviticus 8:15
Leviticus 4:25
Leviticus 8:23–24
Leviticus 4:30
Leviticus 9:9
Leviticus 16:14–15
Leviticus 14:14
Numbers 19:1–5
Chronicles 35:11
Leviticus 16:18–19

Bully: a person who uses strength or power to harm or intimidate those who are weaker.
Job 9:22–23
Ezekiel 28:22–23
Ezekiel 20:25–26
Exodus 9:16
Exodus 10:1–2
Ezekiel 38:19–20
Ezekiel 38:22–23
Exodus 14:4
Exodus 15:6–8
Deuteronomy 28:58–59
Exodus 9:15–16
Leviticus 24:16
Habakkuk 3:3–6
Ezekiel 20:25–26
Ezekiel 28:22–23
Deuteronomy 32:39
Isaiah 2:19
Job 9:30–31
Ezekiel 6:5–10
Job 40:1–2
Job 40:6–9
Psalm 46:8–10

Cannibalistic: a person who eats the flesh of other human beings.
Leviticus 26:28–29
Isaiah 49:25–26
Deuteronomy 28:47–57
Deuteronomy 28:53
Isaiah 9:19–20
Leviticus 26:27–29
Lamentations 2:20
Isaiah 49:25–26
Jeremiah 19:7–9
Lamentations 4:9–11
Ezekiel 5:8–10

Capriciously Malevolent: given to sudden and unaccountable changes of mood or behavior and having or showing a wish to do evil to others.
Job 2:3
Isaiah 45:7
Job 9:17–18
Job 10:8
Job 6:4
Job 19:6–11
Job 42:11
Job 23:16
Isaiah 45:7
Amos 3:6
Proverbs 16:4
Job 9:22–24
Lamentations 3:38
Exodus 4:11
Ezekiel 20:25–26
Isaiah 9:17
Exodus 32:7–14
Joshua 11:20
Deuteronomy 29:1
Ezekiel 20:21–22
Jeremiah 26:19
1 Samuel 15:10–11

Control Freak: a person who is obsessed with or unusually enthusiastic in a wild and irrational way about the power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events due to the effects of extreme mental illness.
Exodus 25:8–31
Jeremiah 10:23
Exodus 30:17–21
Exodus 25:31–40
Exodus 26:1–13
Exodus 27:19
Exodus 28:4–42
Exodus 29:10–14
Leviticus 15:1–33
Exodus 36:1
Deuteronomy 14:21
Deuteronomy 2:2–24
Exodus 31:1–6
Exodus 20:25
Isaiah 14:24
Isaiah 45:6–7
Job 12:10
1 Samuel 2:6–7

Curse-hurling: a solemn utterance vehemently intended to invoke a supernatural power to inflict harm or punishment on someone or something.
Jeremiah 17:5–6
Deuteronomy 29:20
Genesis 3:17
Malachi 4:6
Genesis 4:9–11
Deuteronomy 11:26–28
Deuteronomy 28:15–20
Genesis 12:3
Genesis 3:14
2 Chronicles 34:24–25
Deuteronomy 29:10–27
Jeremiah 11:3–4
Deuteronomy 29:26–27
Daniel 9:11
1 Samuel 26:19
Malachi 2:2–3
Deuteronomy 30:19
Psalm 37:22
Nehemiah 13:25
Jeremiah 17:5–6
Isaiah 24:1,6
Proverbs 3:33
Judges 5:23
Deuteronomy 27:15–26
Deuteronomy 30:7–8
Lamentations 3:64–66
Ezekiel 32:3–15
Jeremiah 44:2–9,22

Ethnic Cleanser: the mass expulsion or killing of members of an unwanted ethnic or religious group in a society. The systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory by a more powerful ethnic group, often with the intent of making it ethnically homogeneous.
Numbers 33:52–53
1 Samuel 15:3
Deuteronomy 7:1–2
Deuteronomy 12:2–3
Numbers 33:50–53
Exodus 34:11–13
Exodus 23:23–24,33
Deuteronomy 7:21–25
Nehemiah 13:1–3
Numbers 21:2–3
Joshua 11:21–22
Numbers 31:9–10
Jeremiah 49:2
Joshua 8:28
Deuteronomy 13:12–16
Ezekiel 6:13–14
Leviticus 26:30–31
Judges 2:2
2 Chronicles 14:2–5
2 Chronicles 34:1–7
Isaiah 34:5–7
Lamentations 2:17–22
Exodus 32:27–29
2 Chronicles 28:9
Deuteronomy 17:12
Exodus 21:15
Leviticus 20:10
2 Chronicles 15:13
Leviticus 21:9
Deuteronomy 18:20
Numbers 1:51
Exodus 22:20
Leviticus 26:21–22
Deuteronomy 22:20–21
Leviticus 24:13–16
2 Kings 19:35
Esther 9:5–6
Deuteronomy 13:12–16
Esther 9:13–17
1 Kings 18:39–40
Jeremiah 50:18–27
Ezekiel 35:7–8
Ezekiel 9:4–6
Hosea 13:4–9
Ezekiel 5:11–16
Numbers 25:4–5
Jeremiah 51:20–23

Filicidal: a parent (and God is considered our creator/parent) who kills, or causes the killing of, a son or daughter (even the Bible says we are all sons and daughters of God).
Judges 11:11-39
Genesis 22:2
Deuteronomy 21:18–21
Deuteronomy 13:6–10
Leviticus 26:27–29
Jeremiah 19:9
Leviticus 21:9
Deuteronomy 28:53
Deuteronomy 28:56–57
Ezekiel 5:9–10
Exodus 22:29–30
Zechariah 13:2–3
Lamentations 4:10

Genocidal: relating to or involving the deliberate killing of a large group of people of a particular nation or ethnic group.
Deuteronomy 20:16–17
Deuteronomy 2:32–34
Genesis 6:6–8
Deuteronomy 7:1–2
Numbers 21:2–3
Deuteronomy 2:32–34
Deuteronomy 20:10–19
Deuteronomy 3:3–6
Judges 18:1–28
1 Samuel 15:7–8
1 Samuel 15:2–3
Numbers 31:7–40
Joshua 6:21
Joshua 8:25–28
Joshua 11:12
Joshua 11:10–11
Joshua 11:16–20
Joshua 11:21–22
Judges 1:22–26
Deuteronomy 13:12–15
1 Samuel 27:8–9
Deuteronomy 7:16
Joshua 10:28–40
Jeremiah 50:21

Homicidal: of, relating to, or tending toward murder. Murder: the killing of another human being.
Isaiah 34:5–7
Lamentations 2:17–22
Exodus 32:27–29
2 Chronicles 28:9
Deuteronomy 17:12
Exodus 21:15
Leviticus 20:10
2 Chronicles 15:13
Leviticus 21:9
Deuteronomy 18:20
Numbers 1:51
Exodus 22:20
Leviticus 26:21–22
Deuteronomy 22:20–21
Leviticus 24:13–16
2 Kings 19:35
Esther 9:5–6
Deuteronomy 13:12–16
Esther 9:13–17
1 Kings 18:39–40
Jeremiah 50:18–27
Ezekiel 35:7–8
Ezekiel 9:4–6
Hosea 13:4–9
Ezekiel 5:11–16
Numbers 25:4–5
Jeremiah 51:20–23

Homophobic: having or showing an extreme and irrational fear towards homosexuality and homosexual people.
And this begs the question: Why is an omnipotent entity so damned afraid of homosexuality and homosexuals?
Leviticus 18:22
Leviticus 20:13

Infanticidal: of, relating to, or tending towards the killing of infants.
Isaiah 13:18
Hosea 13:16
1 Samuel 15:2–3
1 Samuel 22:19
Psalm 137:8–9
Isaiah 13:11–18
Numbers 31:17
Jeremiah 13:14
Deuteronomy 13:6–11
Jeremiah 19:3–9
Deuteronomy 28:53
Deuteronomy 3:3–6
Deuteronomy 2:31–34
Hosea 9:11–16
Ezekiel 9:4–6
2 Kings 2:23–24
Exodus 12:29
Leviticus 26:21–22
2 Samuel 12:13–18

Jealous: making others work extremely hard to meet unachievable standards in faithfulness and exclusive worship.
Nahum 1:2
Exodus 34:14
Exodus 20:4–6
Deuteronomy 6:15
Joshua 24:19
Deuteronomy 4:24
Deuteronomy 29:20
Zechariah 1:14–15
Zechariah 8:2
Ezekiel 36:5–7
Ezekiel 39:25
Psalm 78:58
Psalm 79:5–6
Deuteronomy 32:19–21
Nahum 1:2
Ezekiel 5:13
Ezekiel 38:19

Megalomaniacal: a person or being who is obsessed with their own power.
Ezekiel 38:23
Isaiah 33:10–12
Exodus 14:4
Deuteronomy 32:39
Psalm 95:3
Exodus 15:11
Psalm 96:4
1 Chronicles 16:25
Psalm 24:7–10
Deuteronomy 7:21
Deuteronomy 10:17,20
Nehemiah 1:5
Isaiah 33:10–12
Exodus 15:7
Ezekiel 38:22–23
Numbers 14:10–11
Ezekiel 38:19–20
Exodus 40:35
2 Chronicles 7:2
Numbers 14:21–23
Deuteronomy 11:2
Deuteronomy 3:24
Numbers 16:19
1 Chronicles 16:24
Deuteronomy 32:3
Deuteronomy 5:24
Psalm 138:5
Psalm 145:11–13
Psalm 145:11
1 Chronicles 29:11
Isaiah 40:5
Psalm 29:9
Psalm 99:3
Psalm 96:3
Psalm 8:1
Psalm 102:15
Deuteronomy 28:58–59
Psalm 29:2
Psalm 48:1
Nehemiah 9:5–6
Isaiah 63:14–15
Psalm 72:18–19
Jeremiah 17:12–13
Isaiah 6:1
Psalm 113:4
Isaiah 6:3
Psalm 57:5,11
Psalm 19:1
Psalm 72:19
Psalm 148:13
Psalm 108:5
Psalm 21:13
Psalm 145:3
Isaiah 2:19
Ezekiel 20:25–26
Isaiah 2:10
Isaiah 24:23
Psalm 150:2
Isaiah 60:19
Habakkuk 2:14
Ezekiel 43:2
Psalm 93:1–5
Ezekiel 38:23
Isaiah 66:18,23
Ezekiel 39:21
Jeremiah 32:27
Psalm 29:4
Job 36:5
Psalm 48:1
Joshua 4:24
Psalm 76:7
Psalm 76:11–12
Psalm 106:8
Psalm 68:34
Psalm 50:1
Isaiah 3:8
Job 36:22
Psalm 90:11
Psalm 145:5–6
Psalm 76:1–4
Isaiah 49:26
Isaiah 42:21
Exodus 9:15–16
Nehemiah 9:32
1 Chronicles 29:11–13
Jeremiah 32:18–19
Job 37:4–5
Habakkuk 3:3–6
Exodus 15:6–8
Psalm 29:3–5

Merciless: showing no mercy or pity.
Jeremiah 13:14
Deuteronomy 7:1–2
Lamentations 2:2
Deuteronomy 7:1–2
Jeremiah 20:16
Ezekiel 5:11
Deuteronomy 7:16
Deuteronomy 25:11–12
Ezekiel 7:9
Deuteronomy 19:21
Jeremiah 21:7
Jeremiah 11:11
2 Chronicles 36:16
Hosea 9:15
Ezekiel 8:18
Lamentations 2:17–22
Hosea 2:4
Ezekiel 24:13–14
Hosea 1:6
Isaiah 9:17
Isaiah 27:11
Isaiah 13:11–18
Joshua 11:20
Jeremiah 13:14
Amos 1:11
Lamentations 2:2
Zechariah 11:6

Misogynistic: a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women.
Genesis 3:16
Exodus 21:7
Numbers 3:15,28
Exodus 23:17
Exodus 20:17
Judges 1:12–13
Leviticus 6:14–18
Numbers 5:15–31
Jeremiah 8:9–10
Exodus 22:29–31
Leviticus 12:1–5
Judges 8:30–31
Leviticus 27:1–7
Nahum 3:4–6
Numbers 36:8–12
2 Samuel 12:11
Deuteronomy 22:20–21
Numbers 31:17–18
Numbers 30:1–8,16
Numbers 31:25–35
Deuteronomy 24:1—4
Judges 5:30
Job 25:4
Ezekiel 36:16–17
Job 14:1–4
Lamentations 1:8–9
Isaiah 19:16
Hosea 9:1

Pestilential: of or relating to cause annoying, harmful, destructive, or tending to cause, infectious diseases to people, animals, or plants, especially crops or livestock.
1 Chronicles 21:14
Deuteronomy 32:23–24
Deuteronomy 32:23-24
Exodus 9:8–10
Psalm 78:50
Exodus 9:1–6
Exodus 5:3
Exodus 9:15–16
Exodus 32:35
Numbers 11:33
2 Samuel 24:15
Leviticus 26:14–35
1 Chronicles 21:14
Numbers 14:36–37
Leviticus 26:25
Numbers 14:12
2 Chronicles 21:18–19
Ezekiel 28:22–23
2 Chronicles 21:14–15
Zechariah 14:18
Numbers 16:46
Deuteronomy 29:22–23
Psalm 106:14–15
Jeremiah 25:36–38
1 Samuel 5:6
Jeremiah 21:6
1 Samuel 5:9–12
Amos 4:10
Jeremiah 16:3–4
Isaiah 10:16
Zechariah 14:12
Zechariah 14:15
Habakkuk 3:3–6
Ezekiel 12:16
Ezekiel 7:15
Ezekiel 5:11–12
Jeremiah 21:8–9
Ezekiel 6:11–12
Jeremiah 14:11–12
Jeremiah 27:8
Jeremiah 29:17–19
Jeremiah 24:10
Jeremiah 38:2
Jeremiah 34:17
Jeremiah 32:36
Jeremiah 42:17
Jeremiah 44:13
Ezekiel 5:15–17
Numbers 21:6
Ezekiel 14:12–21
Ezekiel 33:27
Ezekiel 38:19–23
Deuteronomy 28:15–38
Deuteronomy 28:41-67

Petty: characterized by an undue concern for trivial matters, especially in a small-minded or spiteful way.
And here is the most pettiest thing I have ever heard of: Ezekiel 13:20: I am against your pillows!
Leviticus 19:27
Leviticus 19:19
Deuteronomy 23:12–14
Deuteronomy 28:17

Pyromaniacal: an obsessive desire to set fire to things. Proof your God loves Hell more than Heaven...
Numbers 11:1
Deuteronomy 4:24
Job 1:16
Exodus 24:17
Exodus 9:22–24
Leviticus 6:12–13
Exodus 29:18
Leviticus 10:1–3
Numbers 15:2–3
Leviticus 1:9
Leviticus 9:23–24
Leviticus 21:9
Exodus 3:2
Numbers 11:1–3
Deuteronomy 5:22
Exodus 19:18
Leviticus 22:27
Deuteronomy 7:5,25
Numbers 16:35
Deuteronomy 32:22
Deuteronomy 5:25
Deuteronomy 9:3
Deuteronomy 12:3
2 Samuel 22:2,9,13
Joshua 7:15–26
1 Kings 18:24,38
2 Samuel 23:6–7
Joshua 11:6,9
Psalm 18:3–12
2 Kings 6:17
2 Kings 1:10–12
Psalm 11:6
1 Chronicles 21:26–27
1 Chronicles 14:10–12
Job 1:16
2 Chronicles 7:1–3
Psalm 50:3
Jeremiah 5:14
Psalm 29:7
Isaiah 26:11
Psalm 21:9
Psalm 78:21
Psalm 78:59–63
Psalm 104:1–4
Ezekiel 23:46–47
Psalm 97:1–5
Psalm 46:9
Isaiah 9:19
Isaiah 29:5–6
Isaiah 33:10–12
Isaiah 30:27
Isaiah 42:21,25
Isaiah 34:8–10
Isaiah 30:30
Isaiah 30:33
Isaiah 66:15–16
Isaiah 31:9
Jeremiah 4:4
Isaiah 65:5
Jeremiah 11:16
Jeremiah 34:22
Jeremiah 17:27
Jeremiah 43:12–13
Jeremiah 49:2
Lamentations 2:3
Ezekiel 15:6–8
Jeremiah 38:17–18,23
Ezekiel 20:45–48
Ezekiel 21:32
Ezekiel 23:25
Ezekiel 23:46–47
Jeremiah 21:14
Zechariah 11:1–2
Ezekiel 24:9–12
Judges 20:23,48
Zechariah 9:3–4
Deuteronomy 13:12–16
Ezekiel 28:18
Isaiah 1:7–9
Amos 1:10
Judges 1:8
Amos 1:12
Joshua 11:11
Amos 1:4
Amos 1:7
Joshua 8:8–28
Amos 1:14
Genesis 19:24–28
Amos 2:2
Ezekiel 30:14
Amos 2:5
Numbers 21:21–30
Ezekiel 5:4
Daniel 7:9–10
Ezekiel 30:8
Hosea 8:14
Ezekiel 39:6
Nahum 2:13
Amos 7:4
Micah 1:7
Deuteronomy 13:12–16
Malachi 4:1
Obadiah 1:18

Racist: showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.
Deuteronomy 7:1–6
Deuteronomy 7:6
Numbers 25:5
Nehemiah 13:23–30
Exodus 23:23–33
Exodus 11:7
Leviticus 25:44–46
Deuteronomy 23:3–6
Nehemiah 13:3

Sadomasochistic: characterized by or deriving sexual gratification from both sadism and masochism. Sadism: tendency to derive pleasure, especially sexual gratification, from inflicting pain, suffering, deliberate cruelty, or humiliation on others. Masochism: tendency to derive pleasure or enjoyment, especially sexual gratification, from one's own pain or humiliation.
Isaiah 3:16–17
Jeremiah 13:15–26
Psalm 147:11
Lamentations 1:8–9
Isaiah 53:10
Job 6:8–10
Nahum 3:5
1 Samuel 2:6
Deuteronomy 32:39
Jeremiah 45:3–5
Amos 3:6
Hosea 6:1
Psalm 112:1
Jeremiah 10:18–19
Psalm 128:1
Deuteronomy 8:6
Deuteronomy 10:12
Psalm 33:18–19
Psalm 25:14
Psalm 33:8
Psalm 34:11
Psalm 118:4
Job 23:15–16
Psalm 103:13,17
Isaiah 8:13
Job 13:21
Isaiah 3:16–17
Ezekiel 23:33–34

Slavemonger — Slave: one who is owned as the property of someone else, especially in involuntary servitude. Monger: promoter of something unpleasant; a person who is involved with something in a petty or contemptible way.
Leviticus 25:44–46
Exodus 21:20–21
Judges 1:28,30,35
Exodus 20:9–10
Exodus 21:26–27
Exodus 21:2–11
Exodus 20:17
Leviticus 19:20–22

Unforgiving: harsh, hostile, not willing to forgive or excuse people's faults or wrongdoings.
Joshua 24:19
Isaiah 22:14
2 Kings 24:3–4
Deuteronomy 29:20
Exodus 23:21
Ezekiel 24:13–14
Proverbs 1:24–30
Lamentations 3:42–44
Jeremiah 11:14
Isaiah 2:6–9
Ezekiel 9:3–10
Jeremiah 15:1
Jeremiah 18:23
Ezekiel 7:3–4
Jeremiah 14:12
Exodus 20:5
Deuteronomy 23:2

Unjust: not based on or behaving according to what is morally right and fair.
Deuteronomy 5:9
Exodus 34:6–7
Numbers 14:18
Isaiah 14:21
1 Kings 21:28–29
Jeremiah 29:31–32
Jeremiah 32:18
Isaiah 13:11–16
1 Samuel 2:30–34
Jeremiah 16:10–11
Ezekiel 23:46–47
Hosea 2:4–5
Hosea 13:16
1 Kings 14:9–12
Exodus 11:4–6; 12:29
Joel 3:8
Deuteronomy 23:2
2 Samuel 21:4–14
2 Samuel 12:13–14
Ezekiel 20:25–26
Ezekiel 14:9
Proverbs 30:17
Genesis 20:18
Ezekiel 21:3–5
Exodus 30:14–15
Genesis 19:26
2 Samuel 12:11
Exodus 21:20–21
Exodus 21:16
Exodus 21:17
Judges 21:6–23
Leviticus 21:16–23
Leviticus 20:15–16
2 Chronicles 26:19–21
1 Samuel 25:5–39
Ezekiel 18:24–26
Exodus 22:20
2 Kings 17:25
Ezekiel 33:12–13
Psalm 78:21–22,31
Jeremiah 8:9–10
2 Chronicles 15:13
2 Kings 7:19–20
Jeremiah 29:18–19
Leviticus 26:21,28
Jeremiah 5:12–14

Vaccicidal: to wantenly, and with disregard, slaughter animals for pleasure.
Ezekiel 32:13
1 Samuel 15:3
Exodus 9:1–3,6
Deuteronomy 13:15
Exodus 12:29
Ezekiel 32:13–15
Numbers 7:87–88
Exodus 20:23–24

Vindictive: having or showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge.
Deuteronomy 32:35
Isaiah 47:3
Isaiah 34:8
Isaiah 47:3–4
Psalm 94:1
Lamentations 3:64–66
Leviticus 26:25
Isaiah 59:17
Numbers 31:3
Psalm 137:8–9
1 Samuel 15:1–2
Deuteronomy 32:41–42
Deuteronomy 32:43
2 Samuel 4:8
Jeremiah 50:15
Joshua 22:23
Isaiah 35:4
Jeremiah 46:10
Jeremiah 50:28
Jeremiah 51:11
Ezekiel 25:14–17
Micah 5:15
Ezekiel 24:8

And definitely NOT the least; What About Jesus?
John 10:30 — I and the Father are one. ('Nuff said.)

Here is an interesting short film for you (and all others...): Our God Machine

And here is a quote made by Mr. Spock. Yes, THAT Mr. Spock.

"If this is your God, then he is not very impressive. He has got psychological problems. He is so insecure that he demands worship every seven days. He creates faulty humans and then blames them for his own mistakes. He is a pretty poor excuse for a Supreme Being."

Science believes nothing and requires proof of everything.
Faith believes everything and requires proof of nothing.


P.S. — Approval is given for anyone and everyone seeing this post to steal the list provided above. I am dropping everything else and going to compile this into a series of documents for anyone and everyone to download and use as desired.

Dave Matson's picture
Wow! Now there's a list! And,

Wow! Now there's a list! And, that's why the god of the Bible doesn't smell too good.

Tin-Man's picture
Hey, Arakish! For the "soul"

Hey, Arakish! For the "soul" purpose (See what I did there? *wink*) of stealing JoC's thunder, I'm gonna go ahead and refute ALL of that by saying you only cherty-picked the bad stuff, and you obviously read ALL of that out of context. Because it should be blatantly apparent by now that those of us who are heathen skeptics are not divinely blessed with the speciality skills of Biblical Reading Comprehension.

There ya go, JoC. That should save you a bit of typing. And no need to thank me. My reward is simply seeing that precious smile on your adorable face. *smooch*

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Tin Man

@ Tin Man

No No No, you've got it all wrong.

1. you're not reading it correctly. And you cant because you don't believe exactly as I do, which is the correct way.

2. You think this is literal, no it is all a METAPHOR stupid, except, of course when it isn't.

3. When it isn't a metaphor (which it could be if I say so) then it going to be an allegory.

4. Remember god was writing for the people of the time, so all that murder, incest, genocide was perfectly acceptable. He was just trying to communicate on their level.

5. Why are you so stupid? God loves you, he is just working in some mysterious way to bring you to Allah.

Now on your knees you clanking abomination and I shall clearly calmly and rationally prove there is a god with the help of this book and a whopping great sword.

arakish's picture
Well... Didn't take as long

Well... Didn't take as long as I thought.

Here is the promised compilation:

Just be sure to unzip it into its own directory.

Sorry, but the filesize is 39.3 MB (41,251,009 bytes).

Reason: The PSD files are at 300dpi resolution with a size of 8 × 10.5 inches (20.32 cm × 26.67 cm) with ¼ inch (0.635 cm) margins for printing quality on standard American Letter-Sized paper. Should also print fine on A4.

Also be sure to refer to the "read1st.txt" file in the root.


jonthecatholic's picture
Thanks, Tinman. I will say,

Thanks, Tinman. I will say, arakish that in all of what you said, you simply took the texts out of context. I haven't looked back on our old thread but the idea that you simply came back with a list longer than any other post I've seen tells me one thing. You're applying a tactic called shotgunning. Shoot a shotgun which sprays bullets in a multitude of different directions and see what sticks.

Now, I could go down the list and address them one at a time but alas, I have a life. So if you at least want to have an honest to goodness conversation about this topic, pick one and let's talk about that one. I mean if you lose on one point, you've got a bazillion others so it really doesn't change your stance now does it?

Actually, on another note, if you're truly open minded, I can recommend to you a book which goes more into detail on all these.

arakish's picture
And then neglect to provide a

And then neglect to provide a link...

Besides, I have probably read that book and others like it.


jonthecatholic's picture
My idea was to gift you the

My idea was to gift you the book. But I changed my mind on that. Buy it yourself.

Hard Sayings by Trent Horn. You read that one?

arakish's picture
And how would you have gifted

And how would you have gifted it to me?

Read it? Nope. Too new. I stopped reading religious literature about 2000.


jonthecatholic's picture
E-book. These things some in

E-book. These things some in e-books now. Okay then. So safe to say you'r view on religious is outdated by about 18 years?

calhais's picture
We can assume so. What has

We can assume so. What has changed, really?

arakish's picture
@ JoC

@ JoC

Nope. It is the same as it was over 50 years ago. Nothing has changed in religion in over 3000 years.

Here is an interesting factoid for you.

If the Bible is so damned accurate, theh why is the oldest date ever tested on the Dead Sea Scrolls dates them back to 408 BCE.

The Dead Sea Scrolls are the "oldest" copy of the Bible, specifically, Old Testament.

Yet, the Ancient Greek Bible I saw in Greece is dated back to circa 550 to 600 BCE. And there is another Ancient Greek Bible that I have heard dated back to circa 800 BCE.

This means that the Aramaic version of Bible is actually a translation from the Greek version and may have been mistranslated.



calhais's picture
Nope. It is the same as it

Nope. It is the same as it was over 50 years ago. Nothing has changed in religion in over 3000 years.

That's asinine. If you haven't kept up, then you can't know that the first statement is true, and the second statement is so easy to disprove that it makes you sound delusional. Focus on being right rather than dominant.

Here is an interesting factoid for you. If the Bible is so damned accurate, theh why is the oldest date ever tested on the Dead Sea Scrolls dates them back to 408 BCE.

Emphasis on the -oid. Also, this is like saying that modern radiocarbon dating tests are invalid because they were conducted recently rather than contemporarily. You have to add more structure to your argument to make it clear how you think it differs from the radiocarbon dating analogue.

This means that the Aramaic version of Bible is actually a translation from the Greek version and may have been mistranslated.

I think it's time to see you add some citations, Mr. Right.

The_Quieter's picture

Long story short? When you cry context you are admitting that you can't actually defend what it says because you know it's wrong. So just have a video that has destroyed your 'context' nonsense for 8 years now.

arakish's picture
THANK YOU! blinknight.

THANK YOU! blinknight.

I forgot having seen that one several years ago.



Sheldon's picture
How about torturing king

How about torturing king David's new born baby to death?

Tin-Man's picture
Hey, Sheldon, I hope you don

Hey, Sheldon, I hope you don't mind, but in case you missed it, I took the liberty of addressing this issue in the "If God Was Real" thread. However, since it seems appropriate for this thread (and you brought it up), I decided to bring it over here.

Re: Sheldon - "In the bible that deity is said to have been so angered by king David's adulterous affair and murder of the husband of his amorous intentions, that he (deity) smites the illegitimate baby conceived by that affair, and that the baby as a result is gravely ill for 7 days before it eventually succumbs and dies."

Step aside, JoC! I'll handle this one for you. Since Sheldon keeps bringing this up, it seems apparent he has been having difficulty in understanding your explanations to it. Goodness knows you tried and have given it a grand effort. For whatever reason(s), though, poor Sheldon simply cannot grasp the lesson to be learned from that story. Therefore, if you don't mind, I would like to try to explain the importance of this particular story to him in a manner he might be able to understand. I know many theists love using the parent/child analogy when describing the relationship between god and humans. It naturally allows people to more easily relate to the lesson(s) being taught. Also, the stories from the bible are about ancient people and cultures that are vastly different from modern day society. Well, as may be expected, most people of today might find it difficult to relate to some of the stories. With that in mind, I would like to explain the King David story to Sheldon using the parent/child analogy with something of a "modern-day" upgrade....

Okay, Sheldon, please pay attention. Remember, this is for your own good....

Pretend you have a son. Naturally, you love your little boy and care about him more than anything else in life. And let's say for your son's fifth birthday you get him a cute and cuddly puppy, because he has been asking you for one for several weeks. Of course, he is absolutely thrilled with his gift, and over the course of two or three months the boy and the puppy develop a special bond. That puppy is your son's new best friend, and he loves that puppy more than anything.

So, late one afternoon your son sneaks into the kitchen to snag a cookie or two out of the cookie jar for him and his pup. You happen to walk into the kitchen at just the right moment and catch him "with his hand in the cookie jar." And because he is startled by your unexpected appearance, he removes his hand from the jar quickly, such that it causes the cookie jar to fall to the floor and break. And... you.... are...ANGRY! One, because he knows it is a very strict rule that he is not to have any cookies before supper. And, two, because that was a very expensive cookie jar. Well, obviously, your son definitely deserves to be punished for disobeying your rules and for damaging something expensive through his carelessness.

Therefore, you immediately head outside and get the puppy and start beating it severely in front of your son. Then you throw the puppy in a closet and slam the door, while your son stands there crying and begging you to not hurt the puppy anymore. But for the next few days, you go to the closet two or three times a day to beat the puppy, and you make your son watch as you do so. And your son is constantly begging and pleading with you all day every day to stop hurting the puppy. Your son even begs you to spank or ground or punish HIM in any way you choose instead of you beating his puppy. Nevertheless, being the wise and loving parent that you are, you absolutely LOVE your son, and you know it is your responsibility to teach your son a very valuable lesson he will never forget. After about seven days, the puppy finally dies.

Now, by golly, if THAT is not a sound a proper lesson in the consequences of not following the rules, then I don't know what is. I can pretty much guarantee you that the ungrateful little brat will definitely think twice before ever trying to sneak a cookie before supper again. Thus endeth the lesson... (Umph!....*gag*....*hand over mouth really quick*... Oh, excuse me. Just threw up in my mouth a little bit.)

Okay, JoC, there you go. Just between you and me, if Sheldon is unable to wrap his mind around that concept this time, then I'm afraid you may just have to consider him a lost cause. Cheer up, though, ol' buddy. It wasn't because you didn't try, at least. Besides, you can always comfort yourself with the knowledge there are thousands of others out there who happily accept that story as a most uplifting and inspirational example of god's love and mercy.

Tin-Man's picture
See? Told ya. CONTEXT!!!

See? Told ya. CONTEXT!!!

arakish's picture
JoC: " simply took the

JoC: " simply took the texts out of context..."

Oh... I am sorry. I forgot. You Absolutists are the only allowed to take texts out of context. I keep forgetting, us dumb-ass godless heathenistic pagans are not allowed to cherry-pick.

How dare I?


jonthecatholic's picture
Lol. Actually, I'd venture to

Lol. Actually, I'd venture to say that no one is allowed to take texts out of context. C'mon now. Whatever you read, you always take into consideration context. Let me cite an example.

May 2, 2011
"Muslim was shot dead by US Military"

Taken out of context, this text would incite rage. But if I told you the Muslim that was shot was Osama Bin Laden, most people would be singing a different tune. In everything we read, context matters. What puzzles me is that atheists exempt the Bible from this rule. Dare I say, why the bias?

LogicFTW's picture
Which bible? There are many

Which bible? There are many many versions, I am going to go ahead and guess you mean the version you happen to read/like/programmed to.

calhais's picture
Glad that's settled, unless

Glad that's settled, unless you have a point. Be forward.

LogicFTW's picture
I assume you are replying to

I assume you are replying to my post calhais:

I thought it was obvious but I will spell it out: I am not biased against his book, I am biased against all books that make a whole bunch of extraordinary claims without a shred of proof.

Context does matter, hence the bias towards a book, JoC does not even specify which of hundreds of different bible versions he is trying to claim that atheist are biased towards. When he is also biased towards bibles and other holy books of different religions. I am pointing out the hypocrisy.

calhais's picture
I thought it was obvious but

I thought it was obvious but I will spell it out: I am not biased against his book, I am biased against all books that make a whole bunch of extraordinary claims without a shred of proof.

If you claim that you're biased against all books that make a whole bunch of extraordinary claims without a shred of proof and you believe that JoC's preferred translation of the Bible makes a whole bunch of extraordinary claims without a shred of proof, then you ought to believe that you're biased against JoC's preferred translation of the Bible according to your own claim.

JoC does not even specify which of hundreds of different bible versions he is trying to claim that atheist are biased towards.

JoC probably refers to common translations: KJV, NKJV, NIV, NASV, and the likes. Assume that all mention of the Bible refers to at least one of these when the version and translation aren't given.

When he is also biased towards bibles and other holy books of different religions. I am pointing out the hypocrisy.

Pointing out hypocrisy is a political move, not a discursive one. Also, you didn't point it out. That's what `be forward' means: try to say what you mean explicitly. 'Taking the high road here means identifying the source of both of your biases and figuring out which side makes more sense in which ways, not replying name-calling with name-calling.

LogicFTW's picture
I do believe JoC's

I do believe JoC's translation/version of the bible is very likely to make a bunch of extraordinary claims without proof, but I do not know which one it is. But I cannot truly make the claim w/o JoC saying which book exactly he follows, I can then follow up with examples from his particular book of an extraordinary claim w/o evidence.

KJB is a popular bible and one I am familiar with. I find talking to theist they do not like to mention specifics as specifics is where others (theist and atheist alike) can point out flaws easily.

How is pointing out the hypocrisy not pointing out the hypocrisy? I literally said "I am pointing out the hypocrisy"

I would love to take the high road and figure out which side makes more sense, but when one side does not define it's side that is hard to do.

And where did I do name calling? Pointing out hypocrisy is only a political move? Where did you get that? I am not allowed to say that is hypocritical without it being a political move?

calhais's picture
How is pointing out the

How is pointing out the hypocrisy not pointing out the hypocrisy? I literally said "I am pointing out the hypocrisy"

I was referring to the comment before that, since you seemed to be claiming that in that comment you had pointed out the hypocrisy, which you had not done. I agree that you pointed out hypocrisy in your next comment.

And where did I do name calling? Pointing out hypocrisy is only a political move? Where did you get that? I am not allowed to say that is hypocritical without it being a political move?

I've read the conversation over again, and calling you out about name-calling was my bad. You may think me an ass. Calling people hypocritical is a political move because it isn't productive.

LogicFTW's picture
Well, I guess I will call out

Well, I guess I will call out the hypocrisy as soon as I see it instead of waiting until the next posting to "point it out."

I don't think you are an ass, even people that I strongly disagree with I do not consider to be an ass. We are all mostly anonymous here, I like to discuss/debate these topics but I never take things personally as we are anonymous and I do not hold any grudges towards anyone on these boards no matter what their opinion is. I was however curious what you considered name calling to be, so I asked and you in your reply redacted that. Question answered.

Sheldon's picture
"What puzzles me is that

"What puzzles me is that atheists exempt the Bible from this rule. "

Almost as if theists claim it's not an ordinary book to judge by ordinary standards. Come off it now, I don't believe you can't see the special pleading in your claim here.

Either the bible is an ordinary and entirely MAN MADE book, or it's not, you can't start by claiming it's a unique message from an omniscient infallible deity, then insist it must be read in context when we notice the message appears to have all the hallmarks of human fallibility OF THAT EPOCH about it.

Try and address the idea with an open mind that a deity with omniscience and omnipotence can do no better in its message than mirror the ignorance, cruelty, and prejudice of iron age Bedouins. With the odd but incongruous benign platitude conspicuously inserted here and there.

In fact you could do worse than ask yourself candidly what the bible might look like if it were nothing more than a collection of human beliefs stitched together starting thousands of years ago, and see if the result differs in any objectively significant way.

arakish's picture
"...this text would incite

"...this text would incite rage..."

I daresay only with Muslims. However, I NEVER pay any attention to the headline of a newspaper story. I pay it NO heed because I know those headlines are nothing more that click-bait offered by an uncaring and unscrupulous media. This is the reason I read no newspapers, do not watch TV, do not listen to the radio. They are all uncaring and unscrupulous. I am tired of hearing the bullshit from this world. Why cannot the media offer pleasant stories?

"In everything we read, context matters. What puzzles me is that atheists exempt the Bible from this rule. Dare I say, why the bias?"

No bias. we are just imitating you. You theists are always taking only the "good" stuff from the Bible and do it out of context. As I have said before many times (but not to you), why is it when someone pulls a single "good" verse from the Bible out of context, you theists go, "Aww... Ain't he a good Christian?"

But when an atheist pulls out a single verse of something "horrible", you theists scream foul? Then you will start screaming how we have taken it out of context.

As far as I am concerned, the next time someone does this "horrible" thing, do everyone a favor: Wake the fuck up. Get out of your Biblical Matrix.

Knock. Knock. JoC...


calhais's picture
The appropriately modified

The appropriately modified complaint is that you can't take verses out of context to support ideas that contradict the context. It should be obvious that taking verses out of context itself is necessary to quote the verses.


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