Noah’s Ark Questions and Answers

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Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Tesfey

@ Tesfey

When you use Universities that don't exist as a source for your woo...I sure can dismiss it...

zuzu67's picture
In the meantime, i wanna know

In the meantime, i wanna know what you disagree with this. https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP82-00141R00020121000...

Nyarlathotep's picture
I skimmed the document in

I skimmed the document in question, the only thing I saw that might be germane was the following speculation:

page 20 - ...Are the sunken continents of Atlantis, Gondvan, and the Pacific hidden in the ocean depths?...There are serious reasons for believing that the ocean bottom may give the answers to all these questions.

zuzu67's picture
no, its in there "of Lemuria,

no, its in there "of Lemuria, which was lost under the waters of the ocean. In tests of the bottom, conducted at depths ..." i will screenshot it in a bit.

Nyarlathotep's picture
That part of the document is

That part of the document is a CIA report on statements made in Pravda. So yes, I'll go out on a limb and disagree with what Pravda said 50+ years ago.

zuzu67's picture
How can you disagree to any

How can you disagree to any theories i have made or in that file? Isn't the ocean "unexplored". Wouldnt you be contradicting yourself?

Nyarlathotep's picture
I don't see how expressing

I don't see how expressing skepticism of something said on Pravda radio 58 years ago would put me into contradiction with anything.

zuzu67's picture
that is if yr not dismissing

that is if yr not dismissing anything.

David Killens's picture
Please give your definition

Please give your definition of "unexplored".

The entire oceanic subsurface has been mapped on a gross scale, but obviously only (approx) 5% in detail. This is exactly the same situation as the Moon. It has been grossly examined by telescopes for hundreds of years now, but obviously the only locations that have been examined in detail are where probes of the manned moon landings occurred.

With a good ground based telescope I can identify large structures on the moon. But the resolution is not fine enough to discern anything smaller than 5 meters.

Cough cough, I can talk about US and Russian oceanic mapping. Their navies have enough interest and enough money to conduct extensive undersea mapping. This was roughly pointed out in the movie "The Hunt For Red October", revealing the Russians had mapped an undersea canyon in detail. But such activities fall under military secrecy.

arakish's picture
David Killens: Cough cough, I

David Killens: Cough cough, I can talk about US and Russian oceanic mapping. Their navies have enough interest and enough money to conduct extensive undersea mapping. This was roughly pointed out in the movie "The Hunt For Red October", revealing the Russians had mapped an undersea canyon in detail. But such activities fall under military secrecy.

And I started to mention this in another post, then had to catch myself. The sonar maps the US Navy has of the Atlantic Ocean alone were surprisingly high resolution for back in the 80s. Almost 40 years later, I can only guess. And I had forgotten about The Hunt for Red October. That did kind of reveal those secrets.

Since I was in the US Navy, I can verify this hypothesis. And it ain't a hypothesis.

And guess who was the first to discover the evidence of sea floor spreading at the MORs? The US Navy. In 1949, they first discovered this anomaly. If my memory serves, they studied this for about 2 years before turning the data over to geologists. This became the evidential proof we needed to prove the hypothesis of plate tectonics.

So yes. I would say that way more than a mere 5% of the seafloor has been mapped. Just not by the civvies.

rmfr

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ arakish

@ arakish

Sorry mate. But I think he's so deep in his woo woo stew he will probably cite a 19th Century letter from an obscure clergyman who wanted to found such an institution but was kidnapped by the Freemasons and left to die in the hidden depths of one of the statues on Easter Island.

arakish's picture
Oh. That's alright. What I

Oh. That's alright. What I am finding amazing is that the NEWEST material he offers is almost 60 years old. It almost seems as he is like that character in that Brendan Fraser movie: Blast from the Past.

So far, almost everything he is pawning off is about 60 to 235 years old. What I am relying on is more modern, but was based on some of those old, wild ideas.

rmfr

Sheldon's picture
Priceless, he's completely

Priceless, he's completely off the deep end I'm afraid.

Terminal Dogma's picture
Does all this mean mermaids

Does all this mean mermaids exist??

Would marry one TBH.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ TD

@ TD

No TD, they are a leftist delusion. Free Mermaids, pffft, how could females amount to anything, leaving the mermen alone at home to look after the Merfry. Ridiculous idea.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Naw, TD will probably tell us

Naw, TD will probably tell us: mermaids are just leftist snowflake mermen of color who work for SPLC and want to eat your aborted fetuses.

Terminal Dogma's picture
Well tell me why every

Well tell me why every independent picture you see of them in books and shit they are always hot as fuck therefore they exist.

Mermen have the babies and nurture them because they are related to sea horses etc.

The mermaids just want to have sex.

zuzu67's picture
they actually not amuse for

they actually not amuse for the eyes.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ TD

@ TD

Unfortunately all the mermaids have been to rightist chinless wonder conventions and discovered that most of the neo cons are about as well endowed as small pre-pubertal squirrels with brains to match. That's why they hang around on sea shores looking for burly bearded union card carrying co operative member fishermen.

zuzu67's picture
exist physically no, they are

exist physically no, they are nature spirits. http://www.rosicrucian.com/zineen/magen423.htm

Terminal Dogma's picture
Wrong they are not spirits or

Wrong they are not spirits or there wouldn't be pictures of them you idiot.

Peurii's picture
@OP

@OP
You are actually wrong. The flood myth is a rememberance of the visitation by ancient aliens. The problem with not finding evidence on Earth for a planet wide flood is that the flood did not happen here, but on the lost 9th planet, called Nibiru. Some 500k years ago the olympians that live on Pluto discovered that the Nibiru's orbit around the Sun was becoming unstable, and that due to Jupiter's gravity aligning with Neptune's gravity was about to fling our ancestral home on a new orbit. This is the point when Prometheus, an olympian prince, arranged to move substantial portions of the planet's flora and fauna on Earth. The fluctuations of the Nibiru's gravitational waves caused the planet to be flooded, and as the planet drifted to the outer rims of our solar system, it got frozen and lost to us. Astronomers are just about to rediscover our ancestral home, because it explains many of the problems of explaining some of the orbits of our solar system, due to it's gravitational effects on the other planets.

Thankfully Prometheus, and his son Deucalion (mistakenly called Noah in the Bible) managed to fill their spaceship, the Ark, with a variety of the life from Nibiru. The problems with trying to explain the Ark as a wooden one are substantial. But by explaining the Ark as an alien spaceship, the problems go away. We are actually the living the age of the men of iron, the previous generations of humans, described by Hesiod, having lived on Nibiru.

JazzTheist's picture
Oh my oh my oh my.

Oh my oh my oh my.

''The flood myth is a rememberance of the visitation by ancient aliens.''

Show me evidence.

''The problem with not finding evidence on Earth for a planet wide flood is that the flood did not happen here, but on the lost 9th planet, called Nibiru.''

Yeah, nice ad hoc. Show me evidence of your ''lost planet''.

''Jupiter's gravity aligning with Neptune's gravity was about to fling our ancestral home on a new orbit.''

Isaac Newton exploding in his grave. Watch out!

''The fluctuations of the Nibiru's gravitational waves caused the planet to be flooded.''

How the hell does gravitational waves cause flooding?

''It explain some of the orbits of our solar system, due to it's gravitational effects on the other planets.''

Yes, a ninth planet is long suspected--but it definitely wasn't in the habitable zone 500k years ago!

''Thankfully Prometheus managed to fill their spaceship, the Ark, with a variety of the life from Nibiru.''

Given such advanced technology, why couldn't they just upload DNA data into their equivalent of the cloud or something?

''But by explaining the Ark as an alien spaceship, the problems go away.''

I offer you a better explanation: magic!

Peurii's picture
It was my puny attempt at

It was my puny attempt at satire. :)

JazzTheist's picture
I saw that :) it was fun

I saw that :) it was fun refuting those stuff

David Killens's picture
I appreciated the humor in

I appreciated the humor in that post.

arakish's picture
Damnit! Now I have to re

Damnit! Now I have to re-read this thread and see if tesfey as plagiarized any of the bullshit he has been spewing here.

The OP here: http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/what-science-deaththe-...

Here: http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/what-science-deaththe-...

Here: http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/what-science-deaththe-...

Here: http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/what-science-deaththe-...

Nyarlathotep is much nicer than I would have been. I only give three strikes.

rmfr

Edit: corrected username spelling

arakish's picture
Nyarlathotep,

Nyarlathotep,

Do not know which plagiarism checker you use, I used this one:
https://www.paperrater.com/plagiarism_checker

So far I found these posts by tesfey:
90%: http://www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/noah-s-ark-questions-a...
from at least 5 different websites

rmfr

Edit: corrected username spelling

Nyarlathotep's picture
I actually do it by hand;

I actually do it by hand; sad I know. I need to automate it, but so many more important things to do.

But I'll tell you how I do it and try not to insult to anyone:
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I notice a poster who has let's say grammar quality X.

I then notice the same poster posts a block of material that seems to have grammar quality Y; where Y is very far removed from X. Then I select (more or less at random) a sentence from block Y, and google it.

Sad; but that is our current plagiarism system. The results of a "hit" are quite objective I'd say (I mean, if I find something, you are totally busted), but the method of implementation is very subjective (who gets actually checked is subjective and open to possible abuse).
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I'd say I'm correct 90% of the time (that I actually check); but of course you could chalk that up to me not doing anything until it is obvious.

Sheldon's picture
Noah's Ark is an unevidenced

Noah's Ark is an unevidenced myth, that in all probability was plagiarised from an earlier Babylonian flood myth which is too similar to be a coincidence. No global flood ever occurred, as there is zero evidence in the geological record. This Atlantis myth is risible nonsense,and again with zero objective evidence to support it, it's a fantasy for children.

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