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***tree comes rumbling up, taps chimp3 on shoulder***
Uhm... Sir? Didn't you mean poopoo?
rmfr
man, there is a lot you dont understand. Instead of looking into it, you jump to conclusions. That's what atheism is nowadays, you guys dismiss everything without real deep digging. Even now quantum physics is tapping into the metaphysical world, it will differently dissect your beliefs.
But I have looked into all this poopoo about sunken continents. Been doing it for over 45 years. Want to know something? I ain't seen not one shred of E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E or P-R-O-O-F as others have suggested to you. Not one piece.
All I have ever found is speculators like Erich von Däniken writing a bunch of wishy-washy dribble. Yes, they spin a very good yarn. But that is all it is. A yarn. A bunch of bullshit like all religions. Including your Suffer beliefs.
And before you go all nuclear on me making fun of your religious beliefs, let me say this. My Fourth Commandment states: "You shall respect the right of ALL persons to have whatsoever beliefs they may wish to have even if contradictory to yours." However, it does not say anything about having to respect your beliefs. Only your right to have them.
And no. Not all atheist are scientists. Not all scientists are atheists. Not all atheists are interested in digging deep. Remember one thing about Atheism:
Atheism is the lack of belief in any god(s). Nothing more, nothing less.
Atheism has nothing to do with science. I shall admit, most, scientists are also atheists. But the two are mutually exclusive. Being one does NOT automatically mean the other is also true. I was actually an atheist long before I ever became a scientist. Want to know who taught me to be an atheist (skeptical)? Mr. Spock on Star Trek: The Original Series. Want to know what made me so damned interested in science? Just six days after my eighth birthday, I watched Neil Armstrong do his "Small Step Giant Leap" thing on live television. For me, that was damnedest coolest thing I ever seen. Watched Star Trek for three years, then a little more than a year later, we were landing men on the moon. That was damned cool.
So, everything you have posted so far has been debunked by actual and true science. What you are posting, kind sir, is nothing more than psuedo-science dribble.
rmfr
Edit: Forgot to close strong tag.
2nd Edit: Removed thanks for military service since "tefsey" PLAGIARIZED text and pawned it off as his own...
lol are you that slow to realize that i quoted?
quoted what?
rmfr
But to this day we haven't, we haven't discovered all of the ocean. I simply put what i learned on here, i actually appreciate that you are debating this with me. The truth is non of us have the answers just mere guesses, but you will not dismiss anything.
The only thing I am saying is that learning from psuedo-science is NOT the best way to learn anything. Go to accredited University sites.
And I have to disagree with the University of Australia actually believing there was a sunken continent. I actually met MC Peel when I was visiting a friend in Melbourne. He was a student of MC Peel. Thus, I have to ask. Which University of Australia says they are searching for and have proof of a possible "sunken" continent.
rmfr
1. "That's what atheism is nowadays,"
No it isn't, Atheism is the absence or lack of belief in a deity or deities, nothing else.
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2. "quantum physics is tapping into the metaphysical world".
No it isn't - Hitchens's razor applied.
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3. "there is a lot you dont understand. "
Indeed there is, but at least I'm not a complete fantasist like you, who keeps making absurdly sensational but completely unevidenced claims.
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4. "Instead of looking into it, you jump to conclusions. "
They're your claims, no one else has to look into them for you, present your evidence if you have any.
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5. "it will differently dissect your beliefs."
Atheism isn't a belief, it is the lack of one single belief.
zuzu, I live by the belief that we will learn something new every day. My mind is always open to new scientific discoveries.
But the operative word is "scientific", where peer reviewed papers and legitimate studies carry weight. All I ask is that you provide
P-R-O-O-F
Allow us to examine the proof, allow us to dig deep, maybe even expose our personal fallacies. But as long as you keep spouting off with unsubstantiated wild tales, they carry zero weight with me.
The thing is there is soo much stuff modern science and historians unaware of. Just a few years ago, metaphysics to science was like Hollywood. But now you see science proving parallel worlds and spiritual words(quantum physics). The thing is alchemists knew about this, 100 years ago. Everything you know is untrue, even i am ignorant. Hints of the vast scientific and metaphysical knowledge of the ancient Lemurians can perhaps be seen most readily in the mystifying monuments and other structures built by their proteges, the Inca, Egyptians and other great civilizations. Of the Lemurian continent itself, only one city has been found so far: Tiahuanaco in Bolivia right across the Peruvian border. The ancient city is estimated to be between at least 10,000 - 15,000 years old, making it the oldest known city in antiquity.
Theurgy is "The Science or Art of Divine Works"
All i ask is do research, even look into CIA cases, and you come to your own conclusion.
Did a search for Tiahuanaco. Actually, you are referring to the ruins at Puma Punku? Right?
If I am correct, then you have the dating wrong. Those ruins only date back to around 300 to 400 CE. Not 10 to 15 Ka. I am currently searching for where I found the journal-article that completely debunks the videos about that place on Ancient Aliens. And other TV shows. Besides, why would you believe in an idiot that was nothing more than an exercise trainer?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgio_A._Tsoukalos
And the best degree he has is a BA in Sports Information and Communication.
I mean really dude?
Ancient Aliens episode with Puma Punku:
https://www.history.com/shows/ancient-aliens/season-4/episode-6
I can't watch it because of the security scripts I wrote for Firefox. And I ain't disabling them. I wrote them for a reason.
And I love how they say it had to built by aliens because the stone was diorite and impossible to carve using ancient techniques. The only problem is that another science based channel (forget which one) had a bunch of stone workers that specialize in using ONLY ancient techniques replicated the stones exactly using ONLY ancient carving techniques. If it can be done by modern man using ONLY ancient stone carving techniques, then I am fairly certain that ancient men could do the same.
Anything you can say about Puma Punku has already been debunked. And I am going to try and find those papers that show the date of Puma Punku is actually only about 1500 to 1700 years old.
rmfr
since now i have a glimpse of yr knowledge please take a look at this https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP82-00141R00020121000...
So far, every CIA file you have linked to is about 60 years old. Maybe older. Why should I believe anything printed by the CIA during a time when McCarthyism was such a rave?
You need to come up out of that bomb shelter (à la Blast from the Past).
See. I made a proper reference and attribution...
rmfr
As I pointed out somewhere else, it isn't even a statement of opinion/fact by the CIA. It is the CIA relaying what they heard said on a Soviet radio station.
You are not providing any proof, all you are doing is dancing and ducking. Shoveling more manure on a pile does not make the stench go away.
PROOF, please.
Stop telling people to look into your woo woo claims they're your claims and it's for you to evidence them. Vague assertions of files held by the CIA are not evidence, it's a risible appeal to authority fallacy.
You're a complete fantasist.
"The thing is there is soo much stuff modern science and historians unaware of."
A risible appeal to ignorance fallacy. What's more you keep using these common logical fallacies again and again, in your irrational ravings. Fallacies are common errors in reasoning that will undermine the logic of your argument. Fallacies can be either illegitimate arguments or irrelevant points, and are often identified because they lack evidence that supports their claim. Nothing containing logical fallacies can rationally be asserted as true.
"The thing is alchemists knew about this, 100 years ago. "
No they didn't, Hitchens's razor applied again sigh.
" even i am ignorant."
The first thing you have said that i can remotely agree with. However this is not your main problem, you are a fantasist so devolved from reality you don't understand the difference between objective facts and complete unevidenced fantasies. You are not going to sway people here with this kind of unevidenced sensationalist nonsense.
Crap. Missed this. OK. Please list all the animals that are found in Africa AND in India AND in Australia.
Additionally, please define what you mean by "type." Because you sound like Kent Hovind with the animal "kinds."
rmfr
"The Mammals of Madagascar" by zoologist and biogeographer Philip Sclater appeared in The Quarterly Journal of Science. Using a classification he referred to as lemurs but which included related primate groups,and puzzled by the presence of their fossils in both Madagascar and India but not in Africa or the Middle East, Sclater proposed that Madagascar and India had once been part of a larger continent (he was correct in this; though in reality this was the supercontinent Pangaea).
Did a search and only found this:
https://www.amazon.com/Mammals-Madagascar-Nick-Garbutt/dp/0300077513
by Nick Garbutt
"The Mammals of Madagascar" by zoologist and biogeographer Philip Sclater in The Quarterly Journal of Science.
OK. Second search with the above sentence yielded this:
https://newsofthenewage.wordpress.com/2017/04/01/lemuria-ancient-civiliz...
And about halfway down the page:
"In 1864 the zoologist and biogeographer Philip Sclater wrote an article on “The Mammals of Madagascar” in The Quarterly Journal of Science."
I was kind of looking for something way more modern and a lot less psuedo-science.
rmfr
You mean something like quantum physics? that prove the metaphysics? lol
Which they do not. Quantum Physics has nothing to do with the pseudo-science of metaphysics.
Plus I need EVIDENCE of Quantum Mechanics proving metaphysics.
rmfr
"Quantum Physics Demystifies The Process Of Creation and Reveals The Simplicity of Conscious, Intentional and Purposeful (as Well as Unconscious and Unintentional) Manifestation"
no, I would say that's metaphysics
Sounds like Quantum Mysticism; basically quackery.
Is that an actual journal-article? Please provide link.
Otherwise, as Nyarlathotep said...
rmfr
When someone tells you that science proves X; you can be sure the speaker knows nothing about science, and nothing about proof.
You do know what continental drift means don't you? Have ever heard of tectonic plates? There is nothing mysterious, and certainly nothing metaphysical involved. You are reading fantasy stories and giving them credence because they incorporate a few facts, I've seen it all before. You need to learn to use your critical thinking abilities.
@ Tesfey
There is NO "University of Australia". And to back up my claim (something you need to learn to do) here is the list of Unis in Oz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Australia.
If you are going to argue woo woo please double check your sources.
Dang. I was trying to catch him. I wanted to see if he actually listed a real one.
Oh well. He may have found that page anyway and picked one.
rmfr
You cant proclaim and dismiss anything. the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) estimated that as much as 95 percent of the world's oceans and 99 percent of the ocean floor are unexplored. If evidence is indeed found, then I will be here for the proclamation.
And I ain't denying that. Yes, the amount of unexplored ocean floor is about 95% (https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/exploration.html).
However, virtually ALL of the ocean has been mapped (https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/87189).
Aw. Crap. I guess this constitutes an appeal to authority...
I was going to post something I know as fact from the US Navy. However, it is undisclosed info.
And I wait with childish wonder...
rmfr
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