Yo bigg,ok not even I am going to joke about this. I'll just start here. I remember there used to be paedophile sites on the clear net.they have now completely vanished to the deep web. I decided to investigate a little further please note that I did not personally visited any of these sites. It turns out that there are intire paedophile community's where they upload and discuss there insanity and even rationalise it.now I wish to know what your opinion is on paedophilia and whether you think its a choice?. Also if you by any means agree with them I believe the appropriate term is go fuck yourself.
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Pedophilia is a serious topic, it's not like BDSM. People who practice it seem to completely negate the Illegality of the practice and just go on with it in secret. In my point of view, I don't think it's a choice, it's more like sexual "fetish", as BDSM is.
Corrected, as Constantine115 said, it's not quite a "fetish" as there are many possible reasons one could become a pedophile, Psychological being a good point to start with. But if someone who hasn't suffered sexual abuse or abuse in general in his past and actually commits such a crime, then it must be some kind of Mental problem or some kind of "fetish".
Pedophilia is wrong and very sick. The punishment should be lifetime in prison for the first offense. Anyone who helps hide one of them needs to be locked up for 20 years minimum.
Technically, pedophilia is a state of mind, or mental condition (not sure what the right word is); but certainly not an act/crime.
What is BDSM? I'm afraid to Google it.
I've often wondered about this myself. NPR did a story about pornography a couple of months ago. They were interviewing a man that had been addicted and was trying to educate people on some of the pitfalls of internet pornography. He said it completely ruined him sexually for years. He started off with pretty conventional porn, but then as things got boring he began searching for increasingly extreme sexual scenarios. Soon he was completely unable to be aroused by anything that didn't include choking, hitting, fecal smearing or whatever.
I wonder if this is similar to the mental process of a pervert. Did they at some point just start feeding this thing in their mind instead of squashing it? I feel like the pornography itself wouldn't even be required for this process. It's something that could just play out in the perverts mind without necessarily requiring a whole lot of outside stimuli.
People are different and complex, so even if I have something here, I suppose it could just be one of the myriad of ways in which a human can turn into a subhuman.
As far as i know the "People" that abuse children have been abused them selves when they were kids ! So it seems it is a psychological problem and not a fetish ! .. im sure there are exeptions ( there are some very weird people out there ) but i think it's mostly psychological .. if anyone knows a person like this you should contact the authorities .. no kid should ever have to go through this ! My second cousin had been touched by one of his teachers when he was 8 , he was also asking him weird questions about his genitals and if he had ever heard his parents having sex... he is scared to this day !! So i cant even imagine how he could have been if more had happened ... Fortunately the Teacher lost his Job and he was arrested !!
I don't know that fetishes aren't psychological.
We had a student teacher when I was in 7th grade that was having sex with one of the girls in our class. The girl was the daughter of the teacher that this piece of shit was supposed to be learning from.
Endri probably referred to Bondage, Domination, Sadism and Masochism (BDSM). What is meant by abbreviations and initials are best typed in full when first used.
Paedophiles are not necessarily criminals. Nor are they invariably a threat to children. It is a psychological condition and their behavior and whereabouts may need to be monitored. Some paedophiles actually contact authorities and ask for help, especially if they feel they might be a threat to a child under certain circumstances. Naturally they won't do this if they are going to be regarded or treated as criminals.
Paedophiles are a often a threat when they act on their sexual drives in secrecy. They also do harm when they obtain images of child pornography or commit other criminal offences. The really dangerous ones seem to be those who strongly disagree that children are hurt by having sex with an adult. They see objections to "consentual sex" (as they see it) between adults and children as based on ignorance rather than the offender being ignorant of the needs and psychology of children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paedophile_Information_Exchange
Just like any problem, paedophilia needs to be understood if the intention is to minimize it and protect children from paedophiles. Acts against children are rightly criminalized but it is important to remember that not all paedophiles are lawbreakers. A society intent on venting anger or taking revenge on paedophiles indiscriminately may potentially put children at risk.
That is my current understanding based on the little I have read and a TV program on the subject.
Sources:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11252034/Virtuous-paedophile-outs...
(The Telegraph is perhaps the United Kingdom's most right-wing newspaper)
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-paedophile-next-door
I hope one day that atheists, homosexuals, transexuals, fetishists, pedophiles and all others with minority psychologies, pathologies or beliefs will be understood, accepted by all and protected from hurt and from hurting others.
Just like any problem, paedophilia needs to be understood if the intention is to minimize it and protect children from paedophiles. Acts against children are rightly criminalized but it is important to remember that not all paedophiles are lawbreakers. A society intent on venting anger or taking revenge on paedophiles indiscriminately may potentially put children at risk.
Well said Zeff. It does feel good to wallow in the rage against pederasts, but it definitely can be counter productive in many instances. It almost becomes a hate contest. Who ever hates the bad guy most wins the best guy title.
@JB God's country: "A society intent on venting anger or taking revenge on paedophiles indiscriminately may potentially put children at risk."
That's very true JB GC. Here's a story about one of the most idiotic examples of anti-pedophile vigilantism.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1353904/Paediatrician-attack-Peop...
I have some sympathy for people who have pedophilic tendencies due to bad wiring or things that have happened to them. There needs to be more research into treatment, and safe ways for these people to seek help. But as a parent, I also understand the fear that people feel.
My sympathy ends when people put these urges into practice, or when people try to claim that pedophilia is normal. My real anger is reserved for the religious organizations that foster, conceal and normalize these crimes. Pedophiles seem to gravitate toward schools and churches because of the easy access to children. I once had a friend who suddenly quit his job and went back to college to get a teaching degree. He eventually became an elementary school teacher, but shortly thereafter he was caught using a chat room to try and form relationships with young children. He went to jail, and he'll never teach again. If he'd gone for the priesthood he would have gotten away with it.
Okay, this isn't about pedophilia, it's about sex in general.
1) Pedophilia is a mental sickness just like rape isn't about sex, it's about power and a severe mental sickness.
2) There are perversions of sex that may or may not be a sickness but clearly a perversion. Like BDSM for example. In some cases, it is a sickness wanting to inflict pain on another person for sexual arousal is a bit sick. Wanting to be inflicted with pain for sexual arousal is a bit sick. It reminds me of a Jack Nicholson movie 'Carnal Knowledge'. The theme of the movie or at least one of the themes of how Jack needs newer and weirder stimulation just to get an erection. It illustrates how fetish becomes more important than the act of making "love." Our minds are odd like that. Sometimes this leads to extremes and oddities. Some criminal and others just odd. I won't get into too much detail here. It's safe to say that sex isn't like the Cialis commercials.
Pedophilia is an altogether different thing. It isn't a fetish, it is an expression albeit a criminal one. It is saying "I am abusing this child because I am abused." Rape is exactly the same thing an expression of power. There is a close correlation between power and erection. Some people get so turned on by wielding power they actually ejaculate whilst doing so. A type of sickness.
So these people that visit pedophilia sites and justify the crime are indeed sick and in need of help AND supervision. Because sex should be between consenting adults. The gender, the fetish, the numbers participating, doesn't matter as long as it doesn't hurt anyone, and is between consenting ADULTS!
It is a choice and if anything it should be avoided at all costs
Do you really think it is a choice to have a psychiatric disorder?
I believe he means that is is a choice to act or resist the urge to sexualy abuse a child ! But it is definetly hard or even almost impossible for these people to reject their "nature" and their impulses
Pedophilia, like other behaviors, is a crime because people wanted it to become a crime. It wasn't that long ago, just over a century, where it was very common in the US. In 1895 the age of consent was 7 in the State of Delaware. Before that, there was no minimum age in some areas, especially during slavery times.
In the Jewish Babylonian Talmud there's no prohibition against having sex with three-year olds.
In the Bible the common practice was for the men to engage in baby raping. They killed all of the women and younger girls who had had sex.
In Afghanistan the guys still rape young boys.
In the Koran all of the guys in paradise get their own herd of cute young boys.
@DIotrephes: "It wasn't that long ago, just over a century, where it was very common in the US."
Back in the mid-1960s, Jerry Lee Lewis came on a tour to New Zealand, where I was living at the time. Officials at the airport were stunned that he brought his wife with him, because she was 13 years old. That was three years under the legal age of consent in New Zealand, but legal marrying age in Tennessee or whichever state he came from. Eventually they let them in on condition she have a separate hotel room, but people were very upset.
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