My question for all atheists:
If god does not exist it stands to reason that only an atheist could create the concept of god. Therefore, if god truly does not exist why create a concept that has turned into many religions that has been responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions of people?
You claim god does not exist. Therefore you must take responsiblity for the fact that an atheist must have created this concept of an omnipresent being called god.
Your answer please.
Thank you.
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Why are you assuming that the people who first created gods didn't believe in them? Many of them may have been quite sincere in their beliefs.
Assuming the people who created gods were themselves atheists, are you saying that all other atheists share in a collective guilt for those crimes of deception?
@simplicity
1) Doubtful the first person that ever conceived of a god was an atheist.
2) Since the concept of a god has happened in every single human society that we have discovered it appears that it has just been the easy unscientific solution to the unknown and not an atheist plot as you suggest.
3) If as you say that the concept of a god is purely an idea conceived of by an atheist and not real THEN, aren't you the fool because you are a believer in this scam.
Here's the thing simplicity, you operate on an assumption, several to be accurate. You think that all atheists are responsible for the actions of individuals just because they don't believe your myth.
Your line of logic is childish and unrealistic too well, simplistic.
What is my myth that you "assume" i believe in oh wise one?
I am merely stating that if something does not exist then it does not exist and no-one can know that which does not exist....so how do we know of this "myth"
Aside from God....tell me or explain to me just one thing that does not exist...in your own words.
Actually, don't bother replying becuase that's all you can do...everything else you say I already know.
@Simplicity: "tell me or explain to me just one thing that does not exist"
Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, honest politicians, angels, demons, saints, Klingons, Darth Vader, magic, Donald Trump's conscience and empathy, goblins, leprechauns, banshees, the Loch Ness Monster, a holy bible, the True Cross, the Spear of Destiny, the Philosopher's Stone, flat Earth, hollow Earth, Zeus, Aries, Aphrodite, Athena, Odin, Thor, Freya, Valhalla, a master race, Valkyries, zombies, vampires, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Democratic People's Republics, Amaterasu, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Doctor Who, Doctor Jekyll, Doctor No, Jehovah, Jesus, Mary, Gabriel, Michael, Beelzebub....
@Simplicity: "tell me or explain to me just one thing that does not exist"
Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, honest politicians, angels, demons, saints, Klingons, Darth Vader, magic, Donald Trump's conscience and empathy, goblins, leprechauns, banshees, the Loch Ness Monster, a holy bible, the True Cross, the Spear of Destiny, the Philosopher's Stone, flat Earth, hollow Earth, Zeus, Aries, Aphrodite, Athena, Odin, Thor, Freya, Valhalla, a master race, Valkyries, zombies, vampires, Superman, Batman, Green Lantern, Democratic People's Republics, Amaterasu, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Doctor Who, Doctor Jekyll, Doctor No, Jehovah, Jesus, Mary, Gabriel, Michael, Beelzebub....
Halfwit....they exist because you just wrote them down fool...on top of that you can buy half that shit in a shop somewhere.....Liike I said...tell me something that truly does not exist...you can't. You cannot create, explain, write, think about that which does not exist...it's impoosible.
@Simplicity: "they exist because you just wrote them down fool"
If you believe that, you're a quarter-wit. Actually, I don't believe you're real, Rahul.
OK Simplicity. Here's something that people talk about, think about, but doesn't really exist and can't really be conceived by the human mind:
Now.
@simplicity
Did you get your feelings hurt.
You have it backwards as far as responsibility and the burden of proof.
Atheists just don't believe what believers profess.
You are a believer. You believe in a god. I don't believe in your god. I don't have to disprove a god. YOU have to prove your god. I have no responsibility of atrocities done in the name of your god.
I don't have the responsibility of proving what doesn't exist, that is illogical.
Either you are new to this or you are purposely being infantile.
If as you said an atheist created a god, then exactly who was this atheist? Do you have any proof? Which god did they create and why?
You see you don't even understand the term "atheist." It is a term that theist made up when they made up their god.
Everyone is born an atheist. You have to be indoctrinated, institutionally brainwashed, and or taught to be a believer in a god. Atheist is the natural state of a human being.
Mykcob4....you are an assumptive fool...
"you are a believer. You believe in a god. I don't believe in your god. I don't have to disprove a god. YOU have to prove your god. I have no responsibility of atrocities done in the name of your god."
Please show me where I have stated this? please..go ahead, the thread is all there for you to copy and paste.
You stated it in your profile.
http://www.atheistrepublic.com/users/34037
Pretty stupid simplicity. Too fucking easy.
I didn't assume anything so whose the fool now?
You are still a fool. You think because I am limited to two or so options and that because I choose not to say I am an atheist I must believe in a god. BAHAHAHAHAHA! Moron!
here you go buddy.....you can believe in anything you want...the spaghetti monster if you like....it makes no difference. If you do not believe in a god or gods or whatever that's fine. That's fine because from there it is easy....it only leaves two options really....you either know for a fact that there is no god....or you know for a fact there is a god, simple.
The only grey area is.....you dont believe anyone who says there is until you have your proof...which places you in the "Don't know category. Simple.
I do not have to prove anything to you sunshine because I do not believe there is a god. END OF STORY. BAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Atheists...fkn idiots!
simplicity
So your not an Atheist. But, you don't believe in a god. So what do you claim to be then? Also you might want to tone down the trolling in your responses.
Xenoview...my attitude is based on your attitude toward to me. My original post was troll free. The trolls appeared and attacked me...therefore I attack back because it is easy to overcome a troll who attacks.
You are such an authority on everything arent you.....everyone is born an atheist... says who? you? Who made you the king that decides what is and isnt?
Merely stating "I do not believe in your god" shows a complete lack of everything. It's like me saying "I do not believe your colour scheme that says the sky is blue" which I am entitled to do and I am actually correct. Because you only know it is blue because someone told you. You have been educated to believe it is blue. You have no evidence whatsoever that the sky is any colour or even a colour other than what you or some other fool decided it was....as I said...who made you king?
Simply stopping at "atheists don't believe what believers profess" leaves you devoid of any ability to question...why do they believe, who made them believe and about a zillion other questions. You are happy to leave it there and watch everyone live what you believe is a lie because you dont believe what they profess. That is total ignorance of everything, including your own self.
Simplicity
So what color is the sky then?
Xenoview.....what colour is the sky?
The sky...as everyone has been indoctinated to believe....is blue. that however does not mean it is actually blue or that it is even a sky...it just means that is the "label" we have given it to make it easier for us to understand.That label may or may not have countless hours of research done into pigment coulartion and what have you but it is still a label to describe something that we really have no idea about at all...... Does that answer your question?
Mykcob4.....Who said I believe anything? Who? Please clarify.
I am asking a question, not claiming to believe something...so arent you the fool.
If I believed something to be real....or...if I knew something to be real...I wouldn't then be creating the idea of it....would I? No, because that would be impossible as it alread exists.
You are an uneducated educated idiot. I only say that because you wish to go toe to toe with your own stupid little jibes which you write up purely because you are ignorant and therefore cannot understand your own predicament by being an atheist.
You said that you are a nonatheist. That means that you are a believer in a god or gods. So YOU said that you are a believer. Tell me that you are smart enough to know that.
You said "You are an uneducated educated idiot. I only say that because you wish to go toe to toe with your own stupid little jibes which you write up purely because you are ignorant and therefore cannot understand your own predicament by being an atheist."
Really?! Anyone can check your profile and yet you claim that you never claimed to be a believer. So I'm the "uneducated idiot" for checking your profile....FUCKING STUPID!
@simplicity:
Well, we say that there are no gods, like science says, but you're very free to take the opposite... https://youtu.be/VuyYGVDCdN0 ... like every ignorant fool who adores the stones on the roads, because there is no difference between him and you, no matter how much you insist on the opposite.
Having said this, so that it's clear and we don't lead to deceit of where you are and where is the rest, the concept of "god" is very posterior to concepts like religion, totemism, animism, polytheism, etc. The point here isn't that this concept is relatively new historically speaking, because monotheism is it, the question is why anyone would be able to ask a crappy squirrel to which my 10 years old niece is able to arrive without undeceiving too much in a village library ¬¬)-♫
Let's talk about serious things, How old are you, baby?
P.D.
And just out of curiosity, Are you saying that you believe in imaginary friends because an atheist invented one and you are so stupid like to believe the lucubrations of an atheist who, in the past, said that there are gods over a mountain? Because that would be a theory of supine idiocy... yours.
Oh wise one....lease clarify where i said i believed in imaginary friends? please....go ahead.
Now..on to serious things....as stated, something that does not exist, as an athiest would state due to lack of evidence, simply does not exist. So how and why do you and 2/3rds of the global population know about this non existing thing and continually talk about it?
If it is indeed an idea...a myth....then some bright spark came up with the idea...the myth....and that someone could only be an atheist. it simply could not be a person who claims there is a god...can it? No!
@simplicity:
And with all this diatribe you're supposed to be saying something meaningful... Like what?
You haven't to say that you believe in imaginary friends, you believe in imaginary friends, just as there are those who believe that there are gnomes beside the stones of the roads, or that Vishnu exists, there is no difference between them and you, and do not pretend otherwise, it's stupid.
If you have any doubts about the video that I have put you just have to ask, but don't ask bullshit, ask for serious things, real, not nonsense of cocoon of catechesis.
Try again.
Who created the lie? Pretty simple.
If you dont believe in a god that someone believes in...then why do you not ask...who is lieing to that person?
Or do you just not care?
simplicity
What proof do you have that Atheist created the gods? I use to be a religious person who believed in gods, now I don't believe because of a lack of evidence that any of the gods exist. Most Atheist use to be theist, that is why they know about a god or gods.
@simplicity:
Wait a moment, I know that gods doesn't exist, no, wait, we all know that gods doesn't exist because it's demonstrated that deities are unnecessary... https://youtu.be/VuyYGVDCdN0 ... but I must to wonder why an idiot keeps saying that gods exists. And I must do that because... Why exactly?
What? Simplicity! How tedious is the task. A thunder of assumptions does not mean anything.
We are talking about an idea. the idea of god existance. The only way an idea can exist is if someone who knows its only an idea creates it. everyone else just buys into it. There is no assumptions here.
An idea is as real as a car.....if someone creates it. So who created the idea?
@simplicity:
You're not more stupid because don't train. I'm going to repeat it, kid, the idea of "god", understood as the exhibition of monotheism, is relatively modern, long before there were other things from which that monotheism evolved. It's called anthropology and you can buy a book from Marvin Harris in any bookstore. Go ahead, culturize yourself outside the comics of catechesis, leg.
Oh mighty saaab.....you are off on an ego tangent. It does not matter when the idea of god was created....the point is....it can only have been created by an atheist...FOOL!!! A person who believes in a god or claims to know god exists cannot create the idea...because you cannot create something that already exists.....FOOL CHILD!!
"FOOL CHILD!!!"
Rahul is back.
simplicity
What proof do you have that an Atheist created any god?
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