Ask21771 : "The end of the tyre prophecy talks about what god will you do with the remains of tyre after it has been invaded: “This is what the Sovereign Lord says: When I make you a desolate city, like cities no longer inhabited, and when I bring the ocean depths over you and its vast waters cover you, then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place[c] in the land of the living. I will bring you to a horrible end and you will be no more. You will be sought, but you will never again be found, declares the Sovereign Lord.”"

Now that's a guy you want to work for!

RE: Are there ruins in the ocean? https://www.lebtivity.com/event/discover-the-lost-underwater-city-of-tyre

"Description: Tyre was originally a Phoenician town at the heart of Mediterranean trade with a very important port, in fact it was dubbed the 'Queen of the Seas' for its mercantile and seafaring activities. Later under Roman rule and eventually became one of the first cities to welcome Christianity. Later under the Arab rule it still flourished and its port became an important naval base for the Arab fleet. The arrival of the Crusaders, however, eventually led to the destruction of the city and its prosperity. At about 80m of the shore ancient ruins, predominantly from the Romans and crusaders may still be admired underwater. This dive mainly revolves
around the ancient harbour where remains of buildings, roads and columns are visible. "

YES, there are ruins under the water as well. https://www.offbeatenwaves.com/lebanon

@Ask

"The end of the tyre prophecy talks about what god will you do with the remains of tyre after it has been invaded: "

Umm, you do realise this is atheist forum? That means most of us don't believe in God.

Anything using phrases like '"god said" or "god did" are usually dismissed as nonsense . This because (1) we DON"T BELIEVE IN GOD (2) sacred books, such as the entire Christian bible have no credibility as reliable historical sources.

Fortune telling is woo, whether from a sacred book, a newspaper astrologer , or any other source.

Sorry, not willing to humour you.

WTF was that????

@Pirate Jack: Well shiver me timber, I only got one, and swab this plank, then batten them hatches down and be Ye ready for the Pirate Jack attack.

@ ASK
is this the bit that worries you?

then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of long ago. I will make you dwell in the earth below, as in ancient ruins, with those who go down to the pit, and you will not return or take your place[c] in the land of the living.

Ok so Cog and I and others have told you yes, the city of Tyre (modern) is built on the ruins of many older ruins of Tyre, we have confirmed that ruins of old multiple cities of Tyre lie in the lagoon and in the shallow water around the island.

So the only thing you can now be harping on about is the existence of zombies living underground and underwater in some( and only some) of the old ruins with even older zombies ...right? How old are you? 12?

Dont be so fekking stupid. Stop watching cheap movies and the christian channel.

The descendants of the Phoenicians are alive today we call them all sorts of things now...Libyans, Moroccans, Lebanese, Levantines, Palestinians, Israelis, Maltese...the phoenicians live on in just about every country bordering the Mediterranean.

The 'prophecy' is and was absolute fucking bollocks. If you can't see that then just fuck off back to la la land.

@Ask21771

So, let's say, for the sake of the debate, I concede that the 'prophecy' about Tyre is predicted in the Bible. I don't for all the reasons already previous explained to you, but I'll give you the prophecy for the sake of the argument.

Now, prove that a god was responsible for the prophecies and predictions, and not some other explanation.Or that a god is even the most likely explanation.

How did you eliminate:
The person recording the prophecy in the Bible had precognitive abilities?
Or a time traveler traveling back in time to tell him?
Or a super advanced alien race telling him?
Or simply he got lucky?
Or a person from a different religion received the prophecy from their god, and relayed the information to the person recording it in Bible?

Of course, I do not even see a successful prophecy at all, since it did not come to pass as predicted, nor do I believe any of the explanations I listed above, I am just trying to understand how you eliminated all other explanations.

@ Sheldon

"Most of all, why don't theists know the fucking difference between there and their?"

Amen brother, and just do not get me started on apostrophes..........