US gun control

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xenoview's picture
US gun control

Jeff Sessions has announce a review of the FBI's background checks on people. This is because a white church got shot up in Texas, white christians have probably been putting pressure on him. Nothing was done with the Las Vegas shooting that killed 58 and wounded hundreds, but let a white church get shot up and kill 26 and wound 20 and something gets done.

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MCDennis's picture
good point

good point

Randomhero1982's picture
Follow japans gun controls...

Follow japans gun controls... 0.6 deaths a year on average.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Japan has a different culture

Japan has a different culture than us. Ban guns here, and we'll kill each other with the next best thing.

algebe's picture
Japan's murder rate is less

Japan's murder rate is less than a quarter that of the US. Apart from the gun laws, I think it's because the Japanese tend to be very alert to what's happening in their neighborhoods. Whatever you do, someone sees you.

They do have mass murders, though, the best-known being the sarin gas attacks on the Tokyo subway. Last week a man was caught with nine corpses in a small apartment. He'd been advertising suicide assistance on bulletin boards and providing the service at his home, mainly by strangulation.

Without guns, would-be murderers have to get creative, but where there's a will there's a way. In Japan and other countries, I think we need to improve systems for the detection and treatment of mental illness.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Mental illness is such a

Mental illness is such a vague term though. People usually aren't talking about Alzheimer's or Autism or even Schizophrenia. At most they're referring to depression or perhaps even the very homicidal thoughts themselves. In which case the best way to diagnose such an "illnesses" is either by confession or after the trigger is pulled.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
I personally dislike people

I personally dislike people that bring race into everything, as you have done in your OP. If you are in favor of gun control why are you finding ways to criticize it here?

xenoview's picture
I did mention it was a white

I did mention it was a white church, thats in the republican state of texas. Sessions is only putting on a act for christians to seem like he is doing something. I doubt any gun control will come from the review of the FBI background checks for gun buyers. I doubt the republican controlled US congress will pass any new gun control laws due to the NRA.


ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
You did mention that. But

You did mention that. But what you didn't mention is that the majority of the victims in the previous mass shootings have also been white. You didn't mention how we've already had a shooting in a church before. In fact, I'm willing to bet the majority of victims in any of these shootings identify as Christian.

So if being white didn't matter before, and shooting a church didn't matter before, why do they suddenly matter now?

xenoview's picture
I would guess the white

I would guess the white christians are putting pressure on Sessions to do something.

Cognostic's picture
Why not enforce the laws we

Why not enforce the laws we have? Cops are too busy policing for profit to actually enforce the laws of the land. If they are not looking for the next drug bust so they can steal cars or homes they are nickle and diming people to death for petty BS.

Pitar's picture
Gonna take John's perspective

Gonna take John's perspective on this. Race is a pet liberal topic to bash anyone in their sights and sometimes its no more sensible than counting hen's teeth. There was no racially-evident motivation in the Lost Wages shooting so we have a lib-twist on it to create the fraudulent racial context to the more recent shooting in a white urban church. I'm guessing the OP thinks the establishment here are low watt bulbs hanging on his word.

There seems to be a lot of liberal broad-brushing on this site and the current moderation makes no effort to require citations to qualify it. All other politically-oriented sites require it to ensure the partisanship stays out of the gutter. That goes for the religiously motivated as well. If you are going to make stuff up you better be ready for the challenge.

Regarding guns, again with John, those high-caliber trucks should be banned as well. And, about them, you don't even need a 3-day cooling off period or otherwise make a purchase. For $21.00/day from The Home Depot you too can plow the boulevards of America. Great fun for all and the kiddies can come along for the ride. That's what I'm talking about. The new and improved method for home made bumper stickers.

mykcob4's picture
Oh Bullshit Pitar.

Oh Bullshit Pitar.
Race isn't a pet liberal topic.
The fact is that racism is alive and well. Being cynical about it is just ignoring that glaring fact.
Your labeling everything as Liberal is bullshit, and your bashing what you call Liberal is also bullshit.

Sirkenstien's picture
they sure talk about it a lot

they sure talk about it a lot. Like practically every day.

ZeffD's picture
"they sure talk about it a

"they sure talk about it a lot. Like practically every day."
I wonder why?!!!

The simple fact is that gun control works, whatever the culture. That's why there are some controls. Not enough thought and too much nonsense is put into the debate in the USA. Gun culture is a cancer in US society or like Trump's election, a symptom of something worse.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
I'm not gonna lie, I kinda

I'm not gonna lie, I kinda prefer American-style robberies over European ones. In America they just come up to you with a gun and say give me your wallet. There's a mutual understanding of the event. But in Europe they come up and make you think you made a new friend, they start juggling wine bottles just for you, you walk away with a smile only to realize later that they weren't your friend at all, and they left you without a wallet and with a broken heart.

Randomhero1982's picture
What the fuck??? Have you

What the fuck??? Have you been sniffing paint thinner?

Over here robberies are nothing like that.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
Where's here?

Where's here?

Sirkenstien's picture
I have perfect control over

I have perfect control over my guns. And you can't have them.

mykcob4's picture
No one needs a gun. There isn

No one needs a gun. There isn't a valid reason to own a gun. It doesn't make you safer, it doesn't make you "a man", it doesn't do anything but make things more dangerous to you and everyone else. It's like ignoring an epidemic by not getting inoculated. A disease breaks out but YOU refuse to get inoculated. That puts yourself and everyone else at risk. Guns are a pandemic problem.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
I think self-defense is a

I think self-defense is a valid reason.

mykcob4's picture
But owning a gun is not

But owning a gun is not protection. I could cite hundreds if not more that proves this fact and I have cited it over and over on this forum alone.

ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
I'm not sure. Seatbelts don't

I'm not sure. Seatbelts don't guarantee protection not even if you wear it all the time, but its still capable of protecting you.

Sirkenstien's picture
knowing how to use one is...

knowing how to use one is....and if it's not protection then why do security details have them?

Sirkenstien's picture
I use mine to get food.

I use mine to get food. Atheists of all people should understand the cycle of life.

mykcob4's picture
It's cheaper and safer to

It's cheaper and safer to just buy you food. There is no reason to hunt, not a valid one anyway.

Sirkenstien's picture
That is your morality...not

That is your morality...not mine. Would you force it on me?

Randomhero1982's picture
Again, I would suggest the

Again, I would suggest the Japanese method is better... allow only shotguns to be accessable to the public... which require a vigorous practical and theoretical exam to pass in order to get a licence!

This is also followed by further measures, such as a full back ground check, drugs test and mental health test by qualified doctors.

No one needs a gun, most civilised countries fine without them... but if it's so desperately required then make it bloody tough to get hold of.

Sirkenstien's picture
That all looks good on paper.

That all looks good on paper. The thing you don't realize is.... to get to the point you are proposing, it will be preceded by A LOT of bloodshed to first get the guns. A very significant portion of the population will resist any attempt at confiscation. Ironically, the people getting the guns to "save lives", are going to have to kill to get the guns. Plus, it is codified into law that the peoples right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. There are even court cases going back to the 1800's concerning what kind of weapons are considered to be "arms" written in the constitution.

mykcob4's picture

"Plus, it is codified into law that the peoples right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." That is a complete misunderstanding of the 2nd Amendment.
Do you belong to a WELL REGULATED MILITIA? Which happens to be the only constitutional reason for owning a gun. Everything beyond that fact is a lie.

Sirkenstien's picture
You better read it again.

You better read it again. This time without ideological presumptions.


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