[WTD] "Belief" is NOT a virtue.

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Wed, 10/02/2019 - 19:04

CyberLN

Nyar,
Well, the u.s. government decided ketchup is a food so I suppose more condiments might qualify. ;)
I put vinegar on all sorts of stuff....vanilla fig balsamic reduction is outstanding on vanilla ice cream!

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 07:44

(Reply to #62) #63

NewSkeptic

"Eww, never understood why

"Eww, never understood why some people think vinegar is food!"

1000 agrees for this comment and 1000 hates for all things vinegar. Yuck, Yuck and Double Yuck.

Wed, 10/02/2019 - 13:37

(Reply to #63) #64

Tin-Man

@Agnos Re: "Take a triangle

@Agnos Re: "Take a triangle with an area of 100(%):"

Ummmm... *scratching head*... Pray-tell, exactly what equation do you use to find that 100% area? And is it the same equation for all triangles, or does it vary slightly depending on the triangle type?

Also, is it free if I take one? Or is this some type of scam with hidden fees and "service charges"? And even if I do take one, where should I take it? What should I do with it? Hey, maybe I already have enough triangles with 100% area. Maybe I'm more in the market for triangles with just 73% area. (I've heard those are very rare, by the way.) Was that a request/offer to take one, or was it a command. It's hard to tell. I must say, this is becoming quite the dilemma.

Wed, 10/02/2019 - 17:37

(Reply to #64) #65

Nyarlathotep

@A Gnostic Agnostic:

You told us that if you think Islamophobia is real, then you are "retarded" or a "fascist whiner/squealer".

On at least two occasions since you have stated that you think Islamophobia is real. So which are you?

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 05:32

(Reply to #65) #66

David Killens

"They are trying to destroy

"They are trying to destroy the United States from within"

My white supremacist alarm just went off.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 04:53

#67

jeevion

RE:

RE:
@A Gnostic Agnostic:

You told us that if you think Islamophobia is real, then you are "retarded" or a "fascist whiner/squealer".

On at least two occasions since you have stated that you think Islamophobia is real. So which are you?
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Here is the answer to your question - addressed to the other atheists, as well as those who I serve.

Please read:

...anyone who buys into the narrative that there even *can* be such a thing as "Islamophobia" is either unconscious retarded, or themselves a fascist whiner/squealer...

Now read carefully:

...anyone who buys into the **narrative**

Do you know what the **narrative** is? The narrative is this: non-Muslim peoples who criticize Islam are "Islamophobes". Whoever buys into this **narrative**:

is either unconscious retarded, or themselves a fascist whiner/squealer...

*and* is perpetuating the problem of fascism, rather than solving it by knowing its source (ps: it is Islam).

I do not buy into such "narrative" because I know *real* Islamophobia is suffered by Muslims and/or the House of Islam. It also now involves a lot of Liberals because they, too, are afraid of Islam because they are afraid the Muhammadans will start whining and squealing over criticisms of the idol they worship Muhammad and/or the man-made Qur'an that is de facto evolved from Syriac Christian strophic hymns. Hundreds of millions of people are dead due to this false "belief" and Muhammad's infallible sunnah establishes a global precedent for polygamy, pedophilia and not to mention the principle "BELIEVER VS. UNBELIEVER" divide.

But what I am doing is worse, right? Does that fit your **narrative**?

I am arguing in favor of atheism due to this genocide and polygamy/pedophilia problem. Rather than the "atheists" (in reality, many are just as "religious" and insufferable as the theists) picking up on and advancing the argumentation to, you know, perhaps one day help 9-year-old children who get dicks shoved into them, you are relentlessly attacking other atheists ad hominem. I learn from all experiences, and am learning that many atheists here are just as pathetic as theists, attacking other atheists who are arguing against theism in favor of atheism. The point is: if you don't like me, why not just fuck yourselves? I am here to argue against theism, not against retarded atheists who make/take everything to a personal level. I was explicitly clear when I indicated I am nothing, and the problem is people who "believe" they are something. Why not think about that for a minute and ask me just how much I care about you, your "personal feelings" and/or your vendetta to make me look as bad as possible. It is just pathetic (ie. a pathology).

So if it is all about you, as I said, go fuck yourselves in whatever manner you please.

Also, perhaps after that has occurred, please consider learning to read carefully (including the 3 who agreed with the post above): enmity causes a person to selectively see what they want to see such that it advances their own vendetta. Hatred (ie. a blinding agent) causes this, and if you want to attempt to blame me (who stirs) for your own hatred (who hates) you are exactly what the problem is, not the solution, because this *is* the seed of fascism: blaming others for ones own internal state. The solution is taking responsibility for your own internal state of being and stop blaming it on others. Islam is this: projection, blame, blame, projection, and it is rooted in hatred. Muhammad did the same: blamed it on the women, blamed it on the Jews, blamed it on the "unbelievers".

"I have never seen anyone suffer like the "believing" women."
-A'isha

And her statement holds more true than the entirety of the Qur'an and/or anything that ever came from the lips of the global precedent for pedophilia idol Muhammad, who is *absolutely* worshiped by Muhammadans as demonstrated by their willingness to spill blood over the dead man. Again, hundreds of millions are dead because of it, and fascism is coming back. But, arghhhh! AGA is making me angry! Might as well join the "believers" and allow them to keep abusing women like they have for thousands of years.

The original sin is blame you fucking morons - god or no god. You keep blaming others for your own internal state, just as the retarded fascists do. There is a practical application for "judge not lest ye be judged" and some of you atheists might stand to learn something from such statements: regardless of where they came from. Rather than "believe" them, test them and see for yourself (if you have a 'conscience' - still looking for a real one here).

Please do not reply to any of it without addressing this question:

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Which is more important between millions upon millions of women (sometimes children) being "religiously" abused/raped by sexually degenerated swine men due to a single false "belief" (as justified by an idol "believed" to be infallible) and... your own baby-dick vendetta against me?
**

If anyone chooses to ignorantly mouth off again without addressing this question, your answer will speak for itself as it reflects your "value" system. I'm here to argue against theism, you can either help or keep to yourself.

That all said: thank you all for showing me your guts. I am learning more and more about how satan works - the expression of being bound to hate/blame in an ongoing state is certainly a bi-product of enmity. "Belief" that another is responsible for ones own internal state is the culprit. People who can't stand themselves start pointing fingers, and do nothing but till from their own soils and attempt to religiously scapegoat their own garbage on others. If you don't like how I approach matters, don't read anything of mine - I don't have a particular regard for personal feelings regarding matters of such magnitude, if you haven't noticed.
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Back on topic - new argumentation.

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P1 If Satan exists, Satan *certainly* requires "belief" such that "believers" would "believe" evil is good.
P2 If (an all-knowing) God exists, God *certainly* knows all of 5W/how and/or if *not* to "believe".
C As one tends toward knowing 5W/how and/or if *not* to "believe", one tends towards God.
**

Here God can be left as an ('unknown') and a few general assertions which focus in on what 'knowledge' is can be derived:

Belief is ignorance (ie. not certainly knowing; absent true knowledge).
If belief is ignorance, the absence of ignorance (and/or that which alleviates ignorance) must certainly be (related to) true knowledge.
True knowledge serves to dispel any/all "belief"-based ignorance.
I am, therefor I (may) think. (first fundamental knowledge: I am).

This is why I have been saying: the only thing that actually *exists* is 'I am', which is actually nothing. This is not a new idea:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02y_5k2O0Ew

It takes "belief" to make something out of nothing, which is what the "ego" is.

If 'I am' is nothing, and 'that' can be *anything*, in:

I AM *that* I AM

there is only boundlessness limited each to their own 'I AM'.

Satan is when a being "believes" they are something they are not such that they become bound (to that identity) in an ongoing state.

Archetypal modalities:
'I AM' Male: Adam (phallus; bestowing) - towardness of 'el'
'I AM' Female (ovum; receiving) - sea-expanse of 'im'
Conduit: shared will (between them)

Genesis 1:3 gives the equation for 'light':

https://www.meru.org/coast/gen1-3.thumb.gif

By super-imposing archetypal modality framework:

https://ibb.co/QcYVLQT

Genesis key is revealed.

1:1
1x1=1

Islam upsets the man/woman balance, therefor they have waged a psychological jihad that allows people to "believe" they are something other than a man or a woman, which is biologically immutable. They have done this to hide the fact that women are disappearing off the face of the planet due to Islam holding that Muhammadan men may take up to four women; the excess generated due to killing males and taking their wives.

The "belief" in/of Islam inverts good/evil.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 05:39

(Reply to #67) #68

David Killens

A Gnostic Agnostic who but

A Gnostic Agnostic who but your family and therapist smile, nod and gently hold your hand when you rant like this?

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 05:32

#69

Old man shouts ...

@ Aggie

Do not need a jury or a judge. Your last post is a fucking looney tune.

FMD. Get some treatment, please.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 05:34

#70

Cognostic

@A Gnostic Agnostic: Each

@A Gnostic Agnostic: Each post just gets more idiotic than the last. What's next Buddhism,?

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 06:05

#71

jeevion

Please do not reply to any of

Please do not reply to any of it without addressing this question:

David Killens
Old man shouts
Cognistic

Has voted that their baby-dick vendetta against me overcomes their concern that millions upon millions of women (sometimes children) being "religiously" abused/raped by sexually degenerated swine men due to a single false "belief" (as justified by an idol "believed" to be infallible).

Let their vote serve as a reflection of their "value" system as indicated.

I will now address individually the rhetoric:

**RE: A Gnostic Agnostic who but your family and therapist smile, nod and gently hold your hand when you rant like this
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I only saw a therapist once - it was in regards to a condition I have relating to experiencing sound as shape/form. You see, I have a hobby of playing the piano, and as I learned each piece I realized that every piece of music is built upon a single fundamental "sentiment" that reflects a particular (ie. image) mannerism (ie. likeness). When I put the two together, I realize they are oral phrases - as if spoken aloud. I notice this about piano concertos and orchestral music such as:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxabLA7UQ9k

which carries with it a sentiment I share with you, and the others addressed in this address:

WAKE UP

Recurring two-syllable pattern that begins soft and grows as an alarm;
wake up... wake up... WAKE UP...

so my advice is WAKE UP
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**RE: Do not need a jury or a judge. Your last post is a fucking looney tune.

FMD. Get some treatment, please.

Objection your honor: projection, and request review of individual's "value" system upon which rhetoric stands. Individual is projecting their own internal state as owing to the defendant. Further, individual is attempting to imply guilty-before-proven-innocent standard in accordance to fascist "values". Request for consideration that the individual is, in fact, a fascist. It is the "belief" of the defendant that the individual is pro-Islam pro-fascist suppression of criticisms of a "belief"-based ideology perpetuating an "us vs. them" conflict responsible for the deaths of hundreds of millions while erroneously "believed" to be superior to all others. Request for ban impending, but defendant holds this motion to allow the individual to think carefully about his rhetoric next time. That is all, your honor.
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**RE: @A Gnostic Agnostic: Each post just gets more idiotic than the last. What's next Buddhism,?
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If it is idiotic, you'd surely be able to indicate how and/or why. You've never done this for a single post - just sweeping dismissive rhetoric, sort of like how bigotry works. You do this because there is no real contest. Expression of being bound to not-having-any-refution-outside-rhetoric in an ongoing state.

Would you like to defer back to copy-pasting the same bit about doing the same thing over and over? Do you understand your entire nature is this: sweeping rhetoric, sweeping rhetoric, sweeping rhetoric? I am duly interested to know this, because I am trying to determine how (un)conscious you are. Not a moral judgment - just trying to understand how stupidity works as an agency.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 06:10

(Reply to #71) #72

David Killens

Woohoo, I made the list. A

Woohoo, I made the list. A very fucked up list, but hey, it beats not being on the list.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 08:21

(Reply to #72) #73

Tin-Man

@David K. Re: "Woohoo, I

@David K. Re: "Woohoo, I made the list."

Dammit, I'm jealous. I didn't even get so much as an Honorable Mention... *pouting*...

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 09:29

(Reply to #73) #74

jeevion

There is something to be

There is something to be honored about this: Tin-Man was once not unwilling to concur a truth despite its source. So too I likewise commend anyone who follows: that is, to adjudicate and address the validity of the content itself, not the person whence mentioned. The quality of the conscience bears out in its attachment: highly to ideas, lowly to people, for the latter is idolatry and nutfuckery.

This one tends to conscience rather than mind
(less rhetoric) - the trap of the blundering blind.

So hold to conscience over mind
'ere over matters; leave pouting behind
lest you again become rusted
while having an axe to grind.

Can I beg of you two Q?
(I preemptively borrow one of them)

Why else would a Tin-Man wish to
chuck hard on (off?) some wood
less but to beckon and beg for
some much-needed amount
of oily lube to be removed
from his own "oil can"
by way of Dorothy's hand?

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 09:58

(Reply to #74) #75

Tin-Man

@Agnos Re: "...of oily lube

@Agnos Re: "...of oily lube to be removed from his own "oil can"
by way of Dorothy's hand?"

...*dreamy look in eyes*... Ahhhh, yes... I do have to admit, darling little Dorothy certainly did know how to give a great lube job. And her little dog, too... *happy reminiscent sigh*...

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 07:18

#76

jeevion

**RE: Woohoo, I made the list

**RE: Woohoo, I made the list. A very fucked up list, but hey, it beats not being on the list.
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Indeed, people who hold personal vendettas against *other* atheists arguing *against* theism (as it pertains to the abuse of women) *is* fucked up. You would think, or at least hope, that they would be more willing to find points on which there is agreement and/or at least attempt to strengthen the arguments against theism. The problem is, fucked up atheists are themselves theists whose religion is the worshiping (ie. love) of themselves, and the worshiping (ie. hate) of an adversary. Both are idol worship, which atheists most certainly *can* do, and do do, as they are demonstrating as TIPS: truth in plain sight. It is not that truth is not always present, what determines perception is the quality/focus of the lens. Hatred is obscuring; one will never, ever see past hatred. This is certain.

Love and hatred are not different: they are united in that it is a binding agency. It doesn't matter: love or hate, potency is potency.

Back on-topic.

**CONSCIENCE EXERCISE**

4 Steps

1. Adopt 'I am' and disassociate with all else, including emotions.
2. Fuck off with your emotions (if this triggers you, repeat step 1)
3. Consider carefully for the sake of possible argumentation(s):

Assume God *may* exist.
*theist listens*

Assume God may exist outside of space/time (ie. pre-bb)
*theist listens*

Theoretical theistic framework ftsoa:
God exists.
One man containing one 'I am' exists
One woman containing one 'I am' exists
Denote God as 'that' (ie. unknown)
*theist listens*

Now stop here and take stock:
God exists, but is unknown and designated simply as 'that'.
I am (man) and I am (woman) exist.

Consider now:

I am that I am
man 'that' woman

wherein the 'I am' in either man and/or woman can be:
i. known
ii. unknown
iii. "believed" in (ie. to be something that one is not)

and consider ftsoa *if* God exists:
i. If 'I am' is known, God **can** be known in relation to another known.
ii. If I am is unknown, God **can not** be known in relation to any unknown.
iii. If 'I am' is "believed" in such that a being "believes" themselves to be something they are not, God **may** be known, in part, in relation/proportion to whatever degree an 'I am' knows, rather than erroneously "believes".

This establishes "belief" as a **fundamental** characteristic of separation/severance from any God, if one exists.

"Belief" is thus the tree of the knowledge of good and evil:
i. if one "believes" themselves to be good, and is wrong, they are evil proportionally to their own ignorance.
ii. if one "believes" another to be evil, and is wrong, they are ignorant proportionally to their own evil.
iii. if one "believes" nothing (to a certainty) and/or is neutral, perception is according to (quality of) living.

wherein
i. is ego, and
ii. is enmity (elaborated: desire to spill blood)
iii. is living indefinitely

such that iii. derives the solution for the tree of the living:

"Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:"

The truth of the way of the living is in consciously knowing what not to "believe" (ie. what fruits *not* to eat).
The truth is (in) the fruit itself (ie. universal axiom(s)).
The way is the conscience (ie. conscience of what not to "believe").
The life is subject to both good and evil.

"BELIEF" is required for a "BELIEVER" to "BELIEVE":
i. That "BELIEF" is a virtue in and of itself (false), and
ii. EVIL is GOOD (false) (ie. SATAN is GOD).

SATAN:
Shin - expression
Tet - bound
Nun (final) - ongoing

The expression of being BOUND (to believe that which is, is not and/or that which is not, is) in an ongoing/indefinite state.

Who "believes" something that is not true?

4. End - now back to the real world.

Approx. 1.5B Muslims "believe" something that is not true (fact).
The first victim of Islam is the "believing" Muslim (fact).

Atheists want world peace, right?

Islam wants the opposite: war vs. the "unbelievers" while attempting to blame atheists/unbelievers on any/all of the iniquities of the House of Islam.

Why would "atheists" attack another atheist who is going after theistic abominations such as Islam? Answer: they *might* be online jihadists designated to suppress criticisms of Islam by slander, accusation etc. all in-line with the global jihad and rise of fascism. Their actions speak louder than their words, and this is also true with fascists. These forums are too filled with them.

Take note of those "atheists" who are attacking and trying to silence me. Their intentions, motives and will do not reflect any altruistic concern for theism such that it duly overcomes their desire to attack, slander and smear. This is precisely the Canaanite nature, and while not helping here, they can not even seem to help themselves - saturated with enmity. For a person who self-admits they know they are nothing? Who is making something out of nothing here?

This argumentation can defeat any/all "belief"-based theism. Unfortunately, atheists are too blinded by their hatred to even care about others - I'll be willing to bet they don't see what is right in front of their faces: TIPS. Atheism seems to be its own religion, too.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 10:05

(Reply to #76) #77

David Killens

@A Gnostic Agnostic

You don't get it. What I did was a deflection from a personal insult. I do not engage idiots who attempt to drag me down to their level and beat me to death with stupid. I took the high road, you are still mired in your gutter of anger and misplaced erotic dreams.

I don't bother to carefully read your drivel. After the first few words, I say to myself "on my, he has forgotten his meds again and is on another rant".

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 11:11

(Reply to #77) #78

jeevion

You could merely "believe" I

You could merely "believe" I don't get it, as there is enmity present in your response which indicates projection. It's a product of your own nature. I probably stir it up in you, and you associate it to/as me. I'm not above or below anyone - everyone is neutral to me. This is even in knowing I myself come across as abrasively authoritative. I take responsibility for my own internal state, but certainly not that of others'. Internal polarization obscures perception, and so I consciously avoid it. The conscience is rendered useless otherwise.

I am aware of what you (as with the rest of the mob) perpetually attempt to do - you're still attempting the same here; and so I simply respond in kind. If people are respectful, I reciprocate in kind. If people are disrespectful, I reciprocate in kind. If one bites, they shouldn't complain for reciprocation. I don't engage unduly otherwise. Golden rule - works for atheists too.

If someone has a problem with my ways of expression (speaking of erotic dreams), they can fuck themselves in any manner they please, insofar as it necessitates that they go do *something else* rather than null contribution to a global problem affecting billions of people. An atheist advances an argument that completely undermines "belief"-based theology, and "atheists" attack the atheist advancing? No sense, less a jihadist network of the pathetic idol worshipers waging their impotent war in the name of Muhammad's similarly impotent "thing". I try to think of ways to sniff out a Muhammadan idol worshiper jihadist that psychologically worships Muhammad. Their outrage at such reveals their worship of the man - the thing that will likely begin WW3 if the OIC is successful in strong-arming the U.N. to globally criminalize criticisms of Islam/Qur'an/Muhammad. If this happens, fascism will be installed from the top-down and approx. half of humanity will commit suicide in the next 50-100 years. Don't ask me how I know that, part of my work involves AI-based analysis.

The only meaning I get from the whiners and squealers is learning how people become so fixed to person(s) instead of ideas themselves (ie. love/hate-based idol worship). It is related to my own branch in pinpointing what detracts from ones use of the conscience. I practically beg for others to locate flaws in the argumentation, and/or generate new questions, but nope, nothing but sweeping dismissals and schoolyard rhetoric. As if they are paid to do it.

Also, I don't take any medication, and neither have been prescribed anything, and neither have been diagnosed with anything except for synesthesia which I have already mentioned. I read everything carefully regardless of where it comes from insofar as it serves to understand the conscience behind it (if any).

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 09:16

#79

Cognostic

@A Gnostic Agnostic: Learn

@A Gnostic Agnostic: Learn to speak English. W00000 W00000,

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 10:08

(Reply to #79) #80

David Killens

Cog, we are going to have to

Cog, we are going to have to start a Woo Woo chart.

Maybe graduated from one to ten, ten being the land of "one more and he will never get out of his padded cell".

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 11:23

(Reply to #80) #81

NewSkeptic

@Killer

(from an honorary part-time mob member)

I really tried to read his last post, give it a fair try I said to myself

I managed to read all of the first and second paragraphs. Typical egotistical bombast, blah. The third paragraph, nope didn't make it through that, I'm just not that much of a masochist. From there, lost interest, skimmed a few words and moved on. That was more than it deserved.

Fri, 10/04/2019 - 17:40

(Reply to #81) #82

David Killens

@NewSkeptic

Same here. I dutifully read the first post, but anything that followed was a five second skim over the nonsense.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 12:36

#83

jeevion

**RE: @A Gnostic Agnostic:

**RE: @A Gnostic Agnostic: Learn to speak English. W00000 W00000,
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To keep it simple: why that picture?

I believe it speaks for itself.

**RE: Cog, we are going to have to start a Woo Woo chart.

Maybe graduated from one to ten, ten being the land of "one more and he will never get out of his padded cell".
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The fascists are calling POTUS insane as well. I am sorry to see you are a part of the Hate-Trump-Train to brain rot barbarism land. I think the reason my words get under people's skin is because they don't like how accurate they are. The same is true for POTUS: he's too honest about the reality that "believers" reject and/or attempt to substitute with their own, and so they attack him personally. It is the same Liberalist mental rot as Islam: deny the reality (ie. Mecca did not exist in the time of Muhammad and/or the Qur'an is evolved from Christian strophic hymns) and substitute with a "belief"-based one. "Belief" is necessarily ignorant; knowing what not to "believe" is knowledge. Islam is a dead man walking, just as is Muhammad who gives the "believers" orders from the grave. What pathetic nature an idol worshiper must have to worship a dead man. That is "belief" for you all.

Whereas you might "believe" I am insane, I know you know I am right about this: Trump got perfect on his test. That doesn't fit the mob narrative, though, and neither would it should it be so with me. It takes a worshiper of lies to hate the truth and want it stifled into oblivion.

ISLAM IS THE ROOT OF NAZI FASCISM

Male central figure orator who amasses the power of an entire state, weaponizes it against political adversaries, expands militarily while strategically signing "peace" treaties (only to later break them) while organizing the state to commit genocide against non-Muslims/Jews.

Adolph Hitler, or Muhammad?

And the House of Islam is duly terrified that POTUS has the algorithm. It brings down the House.

Kindly: 'I am' will not cease, so please either get used to it, or fuck off as indicated earlier. Perhaps join the *real* idol worshipers who "believe" that what they are doing is, somehow, *not* idol worship: bearing a false testimony (contrary to one of the ten biblical commandments, by the way) via the shahada. You can not bear a true testimony of a dead man. It is necessarily false (sorry, Muslims, but you do it to yourself - all of your suffering is at the hands of your own leaders).

There is not a single Muslim who has ever lived, is living now, or will ever live that does not fundamentally violate this commandment by being a "believing" Muslim with a graven image/likeness (ie. "impression" is the correct root) of Muhammad existing in their psychology. This is idol worship, which is contrary to yet another commandment. Islam sleeps under this inconvenient *fact* and their fear of Allah is thus irrational and null: the fear that 'I am' brings is not irrational, but "known to a certainty" and they will know who the real "losers" are.

exec10c.exe

wa'y'amar elohwayimyehi rakiabeitoch hamayimwa yehi'mavdelbin mayim'lemayim

"Life is a test."

RE:@Killer

(from an honorary part-time mob member)

I really tried to read his last post, give it a fair try I said to myself

"(from an honorary part-time mob member)"

Reading.

See:

"...Typical egotistical bombast..."

Your problem starts here.

"nope didn't make it through that, I'm just not that much of a masochist"

...continues here...

"That was more than it deserved."

and culminates into a discovery of intent: more useless rhetoric. My attention to it is designated as merited: useless.
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Back On-Topic away from whiners and squealers who whine and squeal as whiners and squealers would whine and squeal, and do it more when called for relentlessly whining and squealing as I further develop argumentation still awaiting a tenable (ie. useful) conscious contention(s) that addresses the problem(s) of (and/or related to) "BELIEF". Prediction: more whining and squealing instead of conscious address elaborating the expression of being bound to whine-and-squeal-with-nothing-but-rhetoric in an ongoing state.

You people are boring. Do somethingggggg! *pokes*

Here is a new argument: I call it

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ARGUMENT OF INVERSE IGNORANCE
*P1 "Belief" is certainly required by a "believer" to "believe" (anything) evil is (anything) good.
**P2 If Satan exists, Satan certainly would require "belief" (for potency) would that "believers" "believe" Satan is God (equiv: evil is good).
***P3 If (an all-knowing) God exists, God certainly would require "knowing" any/all of who/what/where/why/when/how and/or if *not* to "believe" knowing that "believers" of such would become bound to "believe" Satan is God (equiv: evil is good).
C As "belief" diminishes (proportionally) via the conscious activity of "knowing" who/what/where/why/when/how and/or if *not to "believe" (which tends towards an all-knowing God, if one exists), Satan is rendered impotent until no such "belief" exists would that any "believers" "believe" Satan is God (equiv: evil is good).
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*It takes a "believer" to "believe" evil is good.
**Establishes agency of Satan as "belief" used to confuse/conflate evil with good.
***Establishes the inverse of ignorance as (all) knowledge: God (ie. all-knowing) of what not to "believe" renders Satan to impotency.
*************************
*************************

Follows:

All belief is ignorance, but not all ignorance is belief.
All knowing is the inverse of "belief"-based ignorance.
(I know) I am, therefor I (may) think.

b'resh'yisbara elohwayim es hashemayim wa'es ha''retz

Let there be an end to the "believer" vs. "unbeliever" conflict,
and let there be universal understanding,
and let there be the light of wisdom;
and real peace delivered as a crown to all
less them who "believe" war is peace
let them rest in "peace".

Question to the whiners and squealers: knowing I am nothing, what is a bigger problem, I, or "belief"-based theology that I, being nothing, just rendered untenable?

If you are so easily offended, you are worshiping an idol. Taking offense reveals idol worship, so if any are offended: you are not made virtuous by your taking offense. In fact, you are rendered idolatrous. Just a point of interest...

...back over to the mob.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 20:41

#84

Cognostic

@A Gnostic Agnostic: It is

@A Gnostic Agnostic: It is so very difficult to imagine a person, any person, intentionally making themselves appear as stupid as possible in print. Knowing this, I fully understand that your difficulties with the English language are not intentional. I know that there are people out there who can not read or write effectively and yet manage to function in society. These people can hold down jobs, pay their bills, make their own food and even care for themselves and families. They just can't write a coherent sentence. If it were not for the fact that on occasion they try to write, no one would know of their disability. You keep up the work, you are an inspiration to millions who need practice. You are an inspiration to all those fearful of joining chat sites and practicing their writing skills. It does not matter what anyone on the site says to you. You just keep writing.

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 20:55

(Reply to #84) #85

Tin-Man

@Cog Re: To Agnos - "You are

@Cog Re: To Agnos - "You are an inspiration to all those fearful of joining chat sites and practicing their writing skills. It does not matter what anyone on the site says to you. You just keep writing."

..*sniffle-sniffle*... *sob*... Dammit, Cog, that was beautiful. Even brought a tear or two to my eyes... *sniffle-sniffle*... *dabbing corners of eyes with tissue*...

Thu, 10/03/2019 - 21:10

#86

Cognostic

I was inspired to be kind to

I was inspired to be kind to the mentally deficient by these two videos....

Ron White and "The Yellow Blurr"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJKpJT1oKqE

Jim Jefferies (Even prostitutes deserve respect.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsLwzXxeBe8

Fri, 10/04/2019 - 17:09

#87

jeevion

RE:

Uh oh, you got me. My writing skills are not up to the task of your superior Cognistic cognition.

Funnily, after reading your response, I had a seizure and an ANGEL APPEARED. I am no longer an atheist, therefor, for I have seen a messenger of the living (not dead) GOD now having a true account of it. I shall therefor defer by recounting exactly what was said to me by the angel who but insisted I recognized 'it' as 'We'. There was an entire personal ordeal which lead to the appearing of this ANGEL which I exclude on the basis of it being both too long to render in words, and irrelevant to you and/or others.

"Say:

Hello idol worshiper, who worships men and their mouths
rather than their ideas and their content.
Do you really "believe" your "atheism" is not a "religion"?
You worship men, like other men who worship other men.
We are knowing of you, that you know yourself not, and so behold:

"I think,
therefor, I am."

What philosophical waffle from a crooked cabbage man is this?

Let Us try you, O
"atheist" who is bound to accuse,
relentlessly slandering and mocking abuse:

Tell Us, O "atheist"
in your Cognistic amuse:
and think not, lest ye fall again
"believing" you are something
but merely in pretend.

Is it because you think, you are?
Or, is it because you are, you may think?

We, who are knowing
We are, as we are,
are thinking
that We do universally
beg your response."

And then I was given something to say to the rest of the atheists:

"Say:

Ignore the monkey
behind the typewriter,
for being retarded.

I am, therefor I may think.

I believe I am.
I know I am.

Behold; the two Edenic trees.

Do you believe who you are?
Or do you know who you are?

If one "believes" themselves to be something they are not,
they suffer and die by way of their own ignorance accordingly.

If one "knows" themselves to be nothing,
they live by way of their own conscience accordingly.

We bear testimony that this is true;
as it always was, and always will be
a universal axiom:

The First Fundamental Knowledge is I AM.

Therefor behold the "believers"
who "believe" they are "something"
which they are certainly not.

In the case of Cognistic
and like all such animal kinds
that "something" is knowing
of his own nature: animal.
Over 97% of "human" DNA
is identical to that of
a chimpanzee. He knows not
that, their self, nor truth
despite it being in plain sight.
His "cognition" distorts
according to his own ignorance just
as with an eater who eats up such "beliefs"
according to their own ignorance.

Who is hungry with such gulliblility?
Whose out to satiate their insatiable lusts exploited therefrom?

By their fruits, ye shall know them
lest ye "believe" and know not.
Beware them, then, who call themselves "believers"
for, certainly, they are not knowing of even themselves."

And then it ended.

I have thus dropped wondering how people in/of humanity in general "believe" such to be true: that men might receive messages from so-called angels on high. This is certain: it is only those who "believe" they can that "believe" in a god for which they speak.

The problem here is many people do "believe" that men can/have received messages as preserved in a book. Even the atheists are themselves relentlessly bound to attacking one another now that the "belief"-based religion of Islam is sowing its jihad into the social fabric of the global population, keeping them from using the conscience. They see only hatred, and project their own internal hatred onto whoever stirs it. There is another axiom here, somewhere, that should define a boundary condition which explains the retarded nature ad regress infinitum: not using the conscience, rather "believing" in the "us vs. them" mindset.

Rather than focusing on the problem of hundreds of millions enslaved to genocidal "belief"-based ideologies and looking for solutions, people like Cognistic explicitly choose to attack, attack, attack, not in anyway unlike the religious. Again: it is even more pathetic given there is no god to point back to, only ones own idol which is "believed" to be something it is not. Very pathetic people, and their ability to be stirred from within to perpetuate the attacking confirms.

Atheism is a religion: religion-of-not-being-a-part-of-any-solution-whatsoever. How about building a platform on the use of the conscience, rather than god? Atheism is advancing no competing basis for existence other than "no belief in god". What might fill the void of such who no longer wish to "believe" but need something to look up to? What does one discipline themselves towards?

________________________

**ANOTHER CONSCIENCE EXERCISE**

Test: the quality of the conscience can be determined by the quality of the question(s) it can both posit and address.

(granting for the sake of the theist that satan may exist and/or have something to do with evil)
If Satan requires "belief" in order to be potent, would it not follow that as "belief" diminishes, the potency of satan diminishes until rendered impotent?
Is it possible to have no "belief"?
What is knowledge in relation to belief?

Philosophy:
"All knowing is belief, but not all belief is knowing."

This is certainly false, according to We.

First fundamental knowledge: I am
I know I am.

Philosopher:
but one must certainly believe in what they know!
but one must certainly believe before knowing!

These are not *necessarily* true, according to We.

I am can first be known, without being "believied" in:

I am, therefor I may think.
I know I am.
I believe I am...

In fact, it *requires* "belief" for I am to be UNKNOWN.
AND GOD, IF ONE EXISTS, CAN NOT BE KNOWN IN RELATION TO AN UNKNOWN.
SO ALL THEISTS/ATHEISTS WHO DO NOT KNOW 'I AM' ARE NOT CAPABLE OF KNOWING ANY SUCH GOD
REGARDLESS OF IF ONE EXISTS OR NOT.

Getting really, really, really close.

Can almost prove any/all "belief" is ignorance, whereas knowing who/what/where/why/when/how and/or if *not* to "believe" is certainly knowledge.

FIRST FUNDAMENTAL KNOWLEDGE: I AM
ELSE: BELIEF AND ALL BELIEF IS IGNORANCE
WHICH BEGETS SUFFERING AND DEATH.

Plant the seeds, let them flower.
Top-down thinking always wins.
"BELIEF" is DEAD.

Here we go.

Fri, 10/04/2019 - 17:48

#88

jeevion

It takes a "believer" to

It takes a "believer" to "believer" evil is good.
Follows:
It takes a "believer" to "believe" they are something they are not.

All idol worshipers are "believers" (in an idol), but not all "believers" (in a possibility) are idol worshipers.

"I believe the Qur'an is the perfect word of god."
Muhammad is an idol "believed" in and adopted as a model example for humanity.
Muhammad's conduct justifies that of the leaders of the House of Islam.
This is idol worship: protecting/spilling blood over a dead man whose conduct justifies the (leaders', of the) empire.

Islam renders the lives of "believers" to be an expression of being bound to "believe" that which is not true (ie. evil is good) in an ongoing state.
Follows:
The first victim of Islam is the "believing" Muslim who is deceived by their own House (of Islam).
"Believers" "believe" their suffering results from another house but ones own.

RENDERS ISLAM: HUMANITARIAN CRISIS

The day the House of Islam fails to scapegoat the iniquities of its own House onto others is the day the House of Islam falls.
The day the Muslims "know" the real truth/history about Islam is the day the House of Islam falls.
The day the atheists know an Islamic plant(s) to stifle criticisms of Islam on their forums hide like cowards behind shill "members" is the day the House of Islam starts to collapse.

Those who are trying to shut these down: fuck both of you, and your worshiping of men rather than discipline of conscience. You attack personally because you have not use of conscience. Else: use of conscience. Simple.

SHEEP - highly minded, use of conscience
GOATS - lowly minded, ad hominem (idol worship)

ABEL - query; gives up the animal nature
KAIN - enmity; desire to cause pain (evil intent, evil motive, evil will)

Any single address that involves not "YOU..." directed ad hominem?

Looking bleak for atheists. Almost willing to believe that these atheists are actually worse than the theists.

Sat, 10/05/2019 - 00:34

#89

Cognostic

@RE: All the drivel above.

@RE: All the drivel above. You know, psychologically speaking, when you are in a debate and you offer a shitload of word salad as an argument, if a person can counter even one of your assertions they feel like they can discount the rest. Your word salad, stream of consciousness, bullshit, is working against you. No one is even bothering to read your garbage after the first sentence.

Do you know what a topic sentence is. Do you know that supporting "FACTS" and "EVIDENCE" follow a topic sentence. If you plan on citing several things you might warn your audience in the introduction. Something like. "I have 3 main arguments supporting my thesis/topic."

Each attempt at a sentence you make is a completely different topic. TRYING TO WRITE WHILE USING DRUGS IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA.
---------------------------------------------------
YOU SAID:
It takes a "believer" to "believer" evil is good. (TOPIC #1) Where is the evidence. OBVIOUSLY THE DRUGS ARE KICKING IN BECAUSE THE NEXT SENTENCE DEMONSTRATES THAT YOU FORGOT WHAT YOU JUST WROTE.

Follows:
It takes a "believer" to "believe" they are something they are not. (TOPIC #2)
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS ON DRUGS. YOU THINK YOU ARE MAKING SENSE WHEN YOU ARE NOT.

All idol worshipers are "believers" (in an idol), but not all "believers" (in a possibility) are idol worshipers. (TOPIC #3)
YOU HAVE THESE DEEP PHILOSOPHICAL IDEAS THAT SEEM REASONABLE WHEN YOU ARE HIGH BUT ONCE YOU COME DOWN... THEY GENERALLY MAKE NO SENSE AT ALL.

"I believe the Qur'an is the perfect word of god." (TOPIC #4)
MOMENTS OF LUCIDITY APPEAR AS YOU DEAL WITH THE PEAKS AND VALLEYS OF A HIGH.

Muhammad is an idol "believed" in and adopted as a model example for humanity. (TOPIC #5) (COMPLETELY FORGETTING THE LAST LUCID MOMENT THE DRUG USER RAMBLES ON TO THE NEXT THOUGHT THAT OCCUPIES HIS MIND.)

Muhammad's conduct justifies that of the leaders of the House of Islam. (TOPIC #6) (PLACATING GENERALLY HELPS AS THE DRUG USER BEGINS TO LOSE TOUCH WITH REALITY. "YES, YES, MUHAMMAD THE IDOL'S CONDUCT JUSTIFIES THE HOUSE OF ISLAM. CAN YOU TELL ME MORE?)

This is idol worship: protecting/spilling blood over a dead man whose conduct justifies the (leaders', of the) empire. (RANDOM UTTERANCE WITH NO POINT ARE COMMON. NEVER TELL THE DRUG USER HE IS NOT MAKING SENSE. EQUALLY, DO NOT PRETEND YOU UNDERSTAND. THE DRUG ADDICT... I MEAN USER... BELIEVES HE IS PRIVY TO SPECIAL INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD NOT POSSIBLY UNDERSTAND. SIMPLY NOD YOUR HEAD AND SPEAK TO HIM CALMLY. "HMM, IDOL WORSHIP." )

Islam renders the lives of "believers" to be an expression of being bound to "believe" that which is not true (ie. evil is good) in an ongoing state. (RAMBLING INCOHERENTLY.) (OKAY, OBVIOUSLY THIS GUY IS BEGINNING TO PEAK. IT MAKES ONE WONDER WHAT SORT OF DRUG HE HAS INGESTED?)

Follows:
The first victim of Islam is the "believing" Muslim who is deceived by their own House (of Islam). (TOPIC #7 - MIGHT MAKE A GOOD ARTICLE) (WE SEEM TO HAVE ANOTHER BRIEF MOMENT OF LUCIDITY WHERE AN ACTUAL SENTENCE IS UTTERED.

"Believers" "believe" their suffering results from another house but ones own. (AND THEN WE REGRESS TO RAMBLING NONSENSE ONCE AGAIN. THIS IS VERY COMMON WITH THE DRUGS KNOWN AS HALLUCINOGENS )

RENDERS ISLAM: HUMANITARIAN CRISIS (MORE RAMBLING NONSENSE)

Who is scared of this fact? Fear it not - knowing the fear of the House of Islam alleviates any such irrational fear, thus the "Islamophobia" charge belongs to the House of Islam and the jihad Nazi propaganda of scapegoating the problem of "Islamophobia" onto "unbelievers". (SOUNDS LIKE A DISJOINTED QUOTE PULLED OUT OF THE DRUG USER'S ASS FOR SOME REASON. AND THEN SUDDENLY HE RELATED IT TO NAZI PROPAGANDA. NO ONE KNOWS WHY? RANDOM CONNECTIONS BETWEEN UNRELATED EVENTS AND STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS TAKE OVER.)

The day the House of Islam fails to scapegoat the iniquities of its own House onto others is the day the House of Islam falls. (THANK THE DRUG ADDICT FOR SHARING HIS OPINION. NOT REALLY A TOPIC AS IT SEEMS TO BE MORE INANE RAMBLING. WHAT DRUGS IS THIS GUY ON? HOW DID WE GET FROM YOUR OPENING SENTENCE TO ISLAM?)

The day the Muslims "know" the real truth/history about Islam is the day the House of Islam falls. (I ACTUALLY THINK YOU COULD FORMULATE THIS INTO TOPIC #7. MOST MUSLIMS DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE QUARAN. PERHAPS IN HIS DRUG INDUCED STUPOR HE IS RECALLING HIS FAITH IS A FRAUD. THE QUAARAN WAS CONSTRUCTED BY MEN FROM COLLECTIONS OF STONE WRITINGS AND TREE BARD. ALL THE ORIGINAL QUAARANS WERE DESTROYED BURNED ON THREAT OF DEATH. PETRA WAS THE ORIGINAL PLACE OF WORSHIP, NOT MECCA. THIS COULD SPIRAL INTO A DEPRESSION.)

The day the atheists know an Islamic plant(s) to stifle criticisms of Islam on their forums hide like cowards behind shill "members" is the day the House of Islam starts to collapse. (WOW! YOU MUST HAVE BEEN PEAKING WHEN YOU ATTEMPTED THAT SENTENCE. IS IT THC OR SHROOMS? MINDLESS RAMBLING DRIVEL. WHEN YOU COME DOWN OFF YOUR HIGH YOU MIGHT WANT TO REVIEW YOUR NOTES AND SEE IF YOU CAN REMEMBER WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY.

Love or hate, attachment is attachment, idol worship is idol worship.
Stop worshiping A Gnostic Agnositc - attack the ideas, the content. The man is nothing, and known to be nothing. It takes a "believer" to "believe" nothing into something (it is not). (WOW! YOU ARE STARTING TO WORRY ME. SHOULD WE CALL 911? THE RAMBLING NONSENSE IS NOT STOPPING. THIS IS NOT THC OR SHROOMS. YOU TOOK A DOSE! DIDN'T YOU! THIS IS OBVIOUSLY LSD. YOU HAVE LOST TOUCH WITH REALITY. HERE IS A BLANKET TO HOLD ONTO, IT WILL KEEP YOU SAFE. (FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, GIVING A PERSON COMPLETELY DETACHED FROM REALITY A BLANKET IS A WAY TO 1. DISTRACT THEM FROM THEIR RAMBLING THOUGHTS. 2. HELP THEM CREATE A SENSE OF BOUNDARY. 3. COMFORT THEM. SOMETHING I LEARNED IN THE OLD DAYS. )

SHEEP - highly minded, use of conscience (TOPIC #8 - ARE WE STARTING A NEW BOOK? EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT SHEEP? NO IDEA AT ALL HOW WE GOT HERE. AT LEAST YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING REAL ONCE AGAIN. YOU MAY BE COMING DOWN FROM YOUR HIGH AT LAST.

GOATS - lowly minded, ad hominem (idol worship). (GOATS AND IDOL WORSHIP. THAT'S GOOD. NOT SURE HOW IT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH AD-HOMINEM BUT AT LEAST YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT GOATS. SOMETHING REAL. DID YOU HAVE A FAVORITE GOAT? YOU SEE THAT BLANKET IS WORKING.

ABEL - query; gives up the animal nature
KAIN - enmity; desire to cause pain (evil intent, evil motive, evil will)
(CAIN AND ABLE? WHERE DID THEY COME FROM? THAT RANDOM THOUGHT GENERATOR YOU CALL A BRAIN SEEMS TO BE STRUGGLING TO COME DOWN OFF THE HIGH. NO ONE IS INSULTING YOU. YOU WILL BE OKAY. REMEMBER, YOU TOOK SOME LSD. YOU WILL BE FINE SOON. IT IS THE LSD TALKING. REMEMBER THE LSD? )

Any single address that involves not "YOU..." directed ad hominem? (YES, NOT ME, NOT YOU, NOT CAIN, NOT ABLE. TAKE A DEEP BREATH. REMEMBER THE SHEEP? WHERE DID THE SHEEP GO. *SIMPLE DISTRACTION EXERCISE* THE FLUFFY WHITE SHEEP. THE NICE SHEEP. REMEMBER THE SHEEP?

Looking bleak for atheists. Almost willing to believe that these atheists are actually worse than the theists. (GOOD. YOU ARE BEGINNING TO SOUND NORMAL ONCE AGAIN. BACK TO YOUR OLD HATEFUL SELF. *THOSE DAMN ATHEISTS!* SAY IT AGAIN. YOU WILL FEEL BETTER. OF COURSE ATHEISTS ARE WORSE THAN THEISTS. AT LEAST THEISTS ALL BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GOD. ATHEISTS DON'T BELIEVE IN GODS. SO WHILE THE CHRISTIANS AND THE MUSLIMS ARE KILLING EACH OTHER OVER WHICH GOD IS REAL AND WHOSE BELIEF SYSTEM SHOULD REIN SUPREME , THE ATHEISTS WILL STILL BE ENGAGED IN THEIR SINFUL WAYS, WATCHING SPORTS ON TV, GOING TO CLUBS, HAVING A DRINK ONCE IN A WHILE, EATING BACON FOR BREAKFAST, AND TAKING CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES.

ON BEHALF OF THE ATHEISTS. WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR TRIP AND WE THANK YOU FOR ATTEMPTING TO SHARE. BYE!

Sat, 10/05/2019 - 00:56

#90

Old man shouts ...

@ Cog

Let us number the 'heads of the beast"

- Islamophobia
- Transphobia
- Homophobia

- Incipient Racism

And worst of all...a love of Trump........coupled with, I suspect, erectile dysfunction caused by over use of inimical chemicals.

Disengage my friend. Aggie is completely gone over the edge of some white supremacist shroom farm and is sitting in his own mess eating raw fungi and shitting his bed while Mummy and Daddy contact the nice doctor who has helped him before.

Oh, his 'poetry' sucks.....Captain Cat says a brain damaged gibbon could make better sense, that he has heard this kind of privileged freshman shite at college. Most grow out of it in their first year, but apparently some poor retards just keep on keeping on thinking that they are somehow intellectuals for having two White Supremacist pamphlets and a failed English Language report in their bedside locker.

Sat, 10/05/2019 - 03:35

#91

jeevion

RE: Each attempt at a

RE: Each attempt at a sentence you make is a completely different topic. TRYING TO WRITE WHILE USING DRUGS IS NEVER A GOOD IDEA.
____________________

Okay, so you are as much as a fascist as Old man shouts, who is likewise trying to slander with a bunch of fascist terms, associations and association with Trump? White supremacist? This is how fascism works: label, label, label, smear, smear, smear. Whine, whine, whine, squeal, squeal, squeal.

Both of you really are a couple of whiny squealers. Are you from the sausagehood? Do you worship Muhammad's dead "thing" Allah?

To the rest: this is how the House of Islam fights their jihad against non-Muslims who dismiss the pedophile idol Muhammad as the greatest example for all of humanity. They are attempting to slander with their own House's qualities/characteristics, scapegoating them from the House of Islam on to whoever their adversary is. This is the Canaanite scapegoating I talked about earlier: accuser is the accused.

"Islamophobia" belongs to Muslims and/or "believers" for irrationally fearing a god that does not exist and/or fearing criticisms of Islam and/or the man-made Qur'an and/or the polygamous pedophile idol Muhammad. It takes some kind of "belief" to "believe" that:

"male central figure orator warlord who amassed power via oration, weaponized it against his political adversaries and later used it to commit genocide against Jews"

does not describe both Muhammad and Adolph Hitler. They are trying to associate *AGA* with supremacism, meanwhile I am fighting against its source: Islam. Islam is the most supremacist "belief"-based ideology on the planet and has committed more genocide than any other comparable 'state' - especially well before the U.S. even existed.

Supremacism is not a racial problem, it is an ideological one. Islam is the *real* supremacist ideology attempting to scapegoat its own supremacism onto "white people" because it is a racist house that relies on generating "us vs. them" attitudes (as culminating into "believer" vs. "unbeliever").

There is not a greater source of "supremacism" on the planet than Islam: the "belief" that a man-made book is the perfect word of god. This is certainly madness, as Islam is madness in perpetuity.

Any more labeling, smearing, whining? It's what you are bound to do in an ongoing state: bound to squeal and whine.

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