[WTD] "Belief" is NOT a virtue.

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@Agnos Re: "Both of you (Cog

@Agnos Re: "Both of you (Cog and Old Man) really are a couple of whiny squealers."

...*throwing temper tantrum*.... Waaaaa! Not fair!... *stomping feet rapidly*... Why do THEY get mentioned and I dont?!?.... *bawling loudly*.... NOBODY LOVES ME ANYMORE!!! Waaaaaaaaa....!

Cognostic's picture
@Tin: *Old man and cog

@Tin: *Old man and cog laughing loudly, slapping hands together in a high-five. At their feet you see Tin Man's hat spinning like a quarter, obviously thrown into the air and forgotten during the ceremony of elation.*

A Gnostic Agnostic's picture
Moving on (they can't touch

Moving on (they can't touch me).

I AM, therefor I may think. (<-*philosophy needs to fix this)
I am aware.
I know I am aware.
I know I am.
I believe...

...and here is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil: to beliEVE.

P1 "Belief" is required in order that any believer "believe" evil is good.
P2 Knowing what not to "believe" tends towards any all-knowing god.
P3 Satan certainly requires "belief" would that "believers" "believe" Satan (evil) is (God) (good).
C Whereas all-"belief" tends towards Satan, all-knowing (what not to "believe") tends towards any all-knowing god.

All belief is certainly ignorance (not knowing).
All knowledge is in knowing what not to "believe".
All wisdom is in knowing why not to "believe".
Allah is Satan; Muhammad the anti-Christ.
Shahada is a certainly false testimony contrary to the Abrahamic 10 Commandments.

I AM (<-*"believers" certainly do not know I AM)
the Lord thy God who...

...also, the "pattern of conduct" of Muhammad, as embedded in the heavens (ie. psychology), is a graven image. So is "believing" that the Qur'an is perfect and can not be surpassed. This begs the need for fascist suppression using bloodshed.

They "believe" the worst example (pedo genocidal warlord) is the best example.
Complete inversion of good and evil.
Islam/Muhammad is responsible for crimes against humanity beyond comprehension.

Original sin: MAN BLAMES WOMAN FOR HIS OWN INIQUITY
Patriarchal Islam blames women for being raped by men.
women wear the iniquity of men: hijab, niqab.
Islam carries in it the original sin of Adam.

"RELIGION OF ADAM" - lol, getting kicked out of Eden! What idiot "believers".

ISLAM: HOW TO GET KICKED OUT OF EDEN
BE LIKE MUHAMMAD
AND BLAME WOMEN
FOR THE SWINERY
OF SICK MEN.

Other atheists: watch the swine squeal and continue their attempts to slander. They are being used to prove two certainties as part of my lab work. You will see the results on a different platform when it launches. I have something really special planned for these sausages.

Cognostic's picture
A Gnostic Agnostic" RE"

A Gnostic Agnostic" RE" Okay, so you are as much as a fascist as Old man shouts, who is likewise trying to slander with a bunch of fascist terms, associations and association with Trump? MMAGA. OLD MAN ISN'T A FASCIST, HE IS A BREATHARIAN AND RIDES A TRIKE.

White supremacist? This is how fascism works: label, label, label, smear, smear, smear. Whine, whine, whine, squeal, squeal, squeal. NO, YOU ARE DESCRIBING A CRACKERS AND CHEESE PARTY. JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN INVITED TO ONE DOES NOT MEAN IT IS FASCIST.

Both of you really are a couple of whiny squealers. WHO IN THE FUCK TOLD YOU ABOUT THE PIG NOSE. WAS IT OLD MAN? TIN MAN? RAT SPIT, THAT LITTLE BASTARD!!! JUST WAIT TILL I PM THEM.

Are you from the sausagehood? Do you worship Muhammad's dead "thing" Allah? "SAUSAGEHOOD?" IS THIS WHAT YOU HAD IN MIND?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrI94OIJ67M

To the rest: this is how the House of Islam fights their jihad against non-Muslims who dismiss the pedophile idol Muhammad as the greatest example for all of humanity. They are attempting to slander with their own House's qualities/characteristics, scapegoating them from the House of Islam on to whoever their adversary is. This is the Canaanite scapegoating I talked about earlier: accuser is the accused. HUH?? SORRY, I COULD NOT HEAR YOU, IT WAS PRAYER TIME..

RE: "Islamophobia" belongs to Muslims and/or "believers" for irrationally fearing a god that does not exist and/or fearing criticisms of Islam and/or the man-made Qur'an and/or the polygamous pedophile idol Muhammad. It takes some kind of "belief" to "believe" that:

RE" Any more labeling, smearing, whining? It's what you are bound to do in an ongoing state: bound to squeal and whine. SO.... YOUR SAYING,,,,, NO MORE CRACKERS AND CHEESE. OKAY, YOU STOP BEING CRACKERS AND WE WILL STOP SERVING THE CHEESE.

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@Cog

@Cog

That was so well done.....i laughed, Captain Cat clawed me, I laughed even more, Captain Cat fluffed his tail in appreciation of your mastery of sincere imitation.

BUT

Fuk me, what have you done? Flung a ton of poo into a muck spreader? All you have done is encourage the febrile twat to continue serving , racist, islamophobic, anti semitic word salad with no dressing at all.

He is obviously in need of intervention.

Nothing more from me.

Cognostic's picture
@AGREED - nothing more from

@AGREED - nothing more from me either. His ranting posts make no sense at all and if I keep it up I will get a friendly little note from the mods.

A Gnostic Agnostic's picture
I got more. You seem to love

I got more. You seem to love it, so the more you love it, the harder I go.

They use fear and themselves hate laughter, because laughter is more powerful than fear is.

Fuck off with your fear.

Sausages are like the men.
Sausagehood is like their 'Illuminati'.
Swinery is like their House and (in)-dwelling.

Christ consciousness does not come lest by way of knowing the suffering of others.
I know all "believing" Muslims are suffering by the hands of their own leaders who lie to them.

I know atheists on AR are attacking and slandering me for knowing this, acknowledging this, and addressing this pursuant to the problem:

'from whence human suffering?'

and I (now) know the problem.

I believe in the possibility of world peace.
I know Islam is *not* peace,
but rather perpetual conflict.

I know world peace is not possible
so long as:

"BELIEVER" vs. "UNBELIEVER"

exists. This division is being perpetuated
by the House of Islam, who attack me here
on AR forums, instead of being a part
of the solution, which must involve real
"peace".

The problem is "BELIEF".
The solution is in knowing the problem (itself).
"Believers" do not *know* they are, themselves, the problem.

When any problem "believes" itself to be a solution,
one becomes bound to accuse others (for ones own iniquity)
in an ongoing (perpetual) state
with no resolution possible.

SATAN: expression of being bound ongoing...

"IT IS THIS WOMAN THAT YOU GAVE ME"
Original Sin: Scapegoating
(Cain; to till from the lowly).

The "believers" do not know they are, themselves, the problem.
The House of Islam **does** know they are, themselves, the problem
but consciously LIE to "believers" in/of Islam.
Their actions are rooted in FEAR from being exposed
and the Muslims would be free from the IRRATIONAL FEAR OF ISLAM:
MUHAMMAD = ALLAH = DEAD
AND BELIEF IS DEAD AS WELL.

Understanding FEAR is superior to suffering it.

They accuse, blame, blame, accuse, slander, slander,
whine, squeal, squeal and whine. Like proper pigs they accuse (project) of the Jewry.
Accuser is the accused - axiom of justifying action on "belief" rather than "known".

We have the algorithm.

They are AFRAID.

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CONSCIENCE EXERCISE
***
Consciously understanding FEAR is superior to suffering it.

Who is afraid? (the House of Islam)
What is it they are afraid of? (being exposed as the real swine)
Where is their fear seen? (projection of "Islamophobia" / inversion; scapegoated onto others)
Why are they afraid? (they stand to LOSE IT ALL: a single false "belief" from that special tree)
When will they fear? (always)
How will they fear? (accuser is the accused).

Who are they afraid of?

"White" people.

Define "racism".
To single out a race (ie. "white").

What sentiment does the expression "white supremacism" capture?
To single out a race and fixate it to an collective "evil" ideological state.

"White supremacism" is a racist expression.
Islamic Nazi fascist propaganda.
Antifa=FASCIST
Who keeps building Jew genocide machines?
What book calls for the genocide of Jews?

QUR'AN
QUR'AN
QUR'AN

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END CONSCIENCE EXERCISE
***

Greatest "idol" worshiped on the planet.
A man-made book. (HUMANITARIAN CRISIS)
A polygamous genocidal man.
Then a "humanitarian" scapegoat Jesus.
Then a not-a-real-Hebrew Moses.

ELOIST vs. YHVWIST
(leads to)
BELIEVER vs. UNBELIEVER
(Christianity and Islam - both idol worship)

US vs. THEM!

Let there be *real* peace
(that is certainly not Islam).

They can't stand seeing others suffering less than they are
(ie. root of socialism, leads to fascism, root: Islam).

I know their suffering.
They choose to hate
and blame others
for their own hatred.

Mark of Kain: scapegoating/projection.
Global mental illness: Islam (perpetual blaming of others).
China = correct, Islam is a kind of cancer. And they don't understand.

*Good News*
Time works both ways: the Ten Commandments each have Ten "plagues".
Muhammad violated all 10, and all beings are duly bound.
The Storm comes.

Do not worry, fellow (only, not fake shills) atheists, you are safe.
But it is a very, very bad time to be a "believer".
Let there be light!

I know I am nothing, thus
I know 'that I am' is Greater
and behold in awe,

"I have never seen anyone suffer more than the "believing" woman."
-A'isha

After 1400 years, she STILL had it more "right" than Muhammad did.

FTW

Enjoy the show!

A Gnostic Agnostic's picture
**RE: Fuk me, what have you

**RE: Fuk me, what have you done? Flung a ton of poo into a muck spreader? All you have done is encourage the febrile twat to continue serving , racist, islamophobic, anti semitic word salad with no dressing at all.

He is obviously in need of intervention.

Nothing more from me.
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*MORE FASCISM*
racist, islamophobic, anti semitic
(all properties of the House of Islam; projection)

*VIRTUE SIGNALLING*
(trying to signal to mods/admins to ban)

Known: either Islamic shill and/or retarded Liberal. Same mental disorder.

Islam is the mental disorder that births "belief"-based Liberalist worldviews that deny the existing reality while attempting to substitute their own "belief"-based one. It, again, is rooted in fascism:

"BELIEVER" vs. "UNBELIEVER"
(in/of a "belief"-based ideology)

Whine and squeal some more?
(expression of being bound to whine and squeal fearing the unreality of their own "belief"-based ideology in an ongoing state)

Still no contentions to the argumentation?

P1 "Belief" is required in order that any believer "believe" evil is good.
P2 Knowing what not to "believe" tends towards any all-knowing god.
P3 Satan certainly requires "belief" would that "believers" "believe" Satan (evil) is (God) (good).
P4 Satan is certainly rendered impotent absent any/all "belief".
C Whereas all-"belief" tends towards Satan, all-knowing (what not to "believe") tends towards any all-knowing god.

Defeats any/all "belief"-based ideologies.

Muslims are (genuinely) irrationally fearing a man-made Allah (equivalent: Muhammad's "I am") indicating real root of "Islamophobia" projected/scapegoated onto all others by Nazi propaganda in MSM/SN.
House of Islam (sausagehood) RATIONALLY fearing global exposure (inevitable - seeds planted).

Satan has no hold over a knowing 'I am'.

Learn how projection works - great example here with Old man shouts.

They can not touch me - and they hate it (making something out of nothing is fruitless).

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THE PRIMORDIAL DICHOTOMOUS DIPOLE

I am
(begets)
I know I am...(knowledge - tree of living)
I believe I am...(ignorance - tree of knowledge of good and evil).

KNOWLEDGE/BELIEF
light/dark

***
CONSCIENCE EXERCISE
***

What is the true way of living?
What does it mean to "take ones cross" daily?
What is the cross?
What is day one of creation according to "Abrahamic" theism?

Shaft: male
Beam: female

Day one:

And speaking elwoahayim (cross of masculine/feminine)
'let be light' (bestowal; masculine; seed)
'and light was' (reception; feminine; fruit).

Did 'god' "create" light? Or will (ie. call) it into being?
If 'god' did not create light, where does light come from?

EIN
EIN SOPH
EIN SOPH AUR

(I am that I am.
Ehyeh asher ehyeh.
I am that I am.)

Un
Un-ending
Un-ending Light

I am (therefor I may think).
I am aware (that I think).
I know I am aware.
I know I am (nothing).

How does one move from "belief" (ie. ignorance) to "knowledge" (ie. gnosis)?

I AM
TRUTH (of the) WAY (of) LIVING

Triangle:
Apex: I am
Base: I believe & I know

i. Render true/false assertion (distinguishing between light/dark) of any "belief" to be tried, tested to be found (un)true.
ii. Subject "belief" to what is already known. If what is known is insufficient to graduate "belief" to "known" true/untrue, attaining knowledge is needed until "belief" can be further tried/tested until found true/untrue.
iii. "Belief" necessarily graduates into one of two:
a. I (now) KNOW (tried, tested) "belief" is TRUE
b. I now *KNOW NOT* to BELIEVE...

All knowledge is reflected in temperance (ie. body of "knowledge" equivalent to absence(s) of the adoption of false assertions/"beliefs" generating the "satanic" state of being bound to "believe" something that is not true in an ongoing state as in: Islam).

Christ consciousness does not come lest by way of knowing the suffering of others.
Muslims are needlessly suffering; the first victim of Islam is the "believing" Muslim.

Some atheists on this forum are not atheists, but Islamic social jihadists tasked with undermining any/all individuals recognizing Islam as the foremost global root of human suffering.

'from whence human suffering?'

"BELIEF" (ie. satan).

Because all Muslims are bound to "believe" something that is not true, Islam is a necessarily a satanic religion perpetuating:

"BELIEVER VS. UNBELIEVER"

The very "hellfire" they fear is their own abode: the fear of facing the (un)reality of their "beliefs". The leaders of Islam suffer rational "fear" which they pathologically impose on Muslims (first victim of Islam) followed by "unbelievers". Muslims are coerced into performing jihad based on (abusive) indoctrination from childhood.

Approx. 270 000 000 dead as a result of Islamic jihad:

https://www.politicalislam.com/tears-of-jihad/

I will to end this division.
They will do everything they can
to stop me, because they know
I am both able and willing.
I have tried the "believers"
I have tested their "belief"-based claims
I have found them to be certainly false.
I know that I am nothing.

Let the House of Islam be duly exposed
to the whole of humanity for its crimes
and let there be a formal trial for the crimes of Muhammad
and his atrocity that is "belief"-based "Islam"
wherein WAR is believed to be (a means to) PEACE.

exec.projecteden.exe
exec.potusaddress.exe
exec.ouiiiii.exe

For the W.
(not win)

Nyarlathotep's picture
A Gnostic Agnostic - *VIRTUE

A Gnostic Agnostic - *VIRTUE SIGNALLING*

Most users who use that phrase typically get themselves banned pretty quickly. Let's hope that isn't you.

A Gnostic Agnostic's picture
RE: Most users who use that

RE: Most users who use that phrase typically get themselves banned pretty quickly. Let's hope that isn't you.
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Oh no, not you too.

Fascism is (use of) forcible suppression.

There are valid ways of tacitly virtue-signalling: like subtly suggesting (serpent in the garden) to others that they consider thinking for themselves instead of "believing" shit from someone. That is a good virtue.

There are invalid ways of tacitly virtue-signalling: like subtly suggesting (serpent in the garden) to mods that they consider banning another for... what?

(planting invitation to draw slander/accusations)

Are you a part of the guilty-before-proven-innocent club?
That's backwards dark-ages mentality, and it is dangerous.
Might as well become a "believer" and condemn everything you "believe" is not "good".

An AR "atheist" donor member is going to get banned for advancing (so far undisputed) anti-theist argumentation on the forums?

Please stop virtue-signalling attempting to silence other people. I don't even do that - I encourage critique, but unfortunately its always directed at me :( it is okay, I will forgive everyone.

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@ Aggie

@ Aggie

My comment He obviously needs intervention

was in no way

VIRTUE SIGNALLING*
(trying to signal to mods/admins to ban)

Rather that you need AN intervention.
Not from the mods who run their own tight ship here without help from the members, but from a qualified person or persons.

That you have demonstrated phobic behaviour and hate speech here is but a symptom of your deep seated distress.

I will not respond to your inane and phobic ramblings in future as it is leading to a crisis for you.
It can be forecast from your increasingly irrational and shrill scribblings, you are even casting yourself as the victim here.

viz:

Please stop virtue-signalling attempting to silence other people. I don't even do that - I encourage critique, but unfortunately its always directed at me

There comes a time when a person's distress is so evident in their written pieces that it is cruel to continue to attempt any sort of communication as it only exacerbates the distress.

A Gnostic Agnostic's picture
**RE: Rather that you need AN

**RE: Rather that you need AN intervention. Not from the mods who run their own tight ship here without help from the members, but from a qualified person or persons.
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I am aware this is what you may "believe" - but "belief" is certainly not knowledge. Your "beliefs" reflect your own nature, and are projected when in a state of enmity. You can not know such (reality: a projection of your own enmity towards me reflecting your preferred reality of my being in need of help, despite it being yourself), as I know you are not a qualified anything save self-demonstrated fascist for relentlessly attempting to slander and signal to others. Let us test for this latter assertion to see if true.

**RE: That you have demonstrated phobic behaviour and hate speech here is but a symptom of your deep seated distress.
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Only fear of an unknown can be irrational. I know the Qur'an is man-made and Islam is a humanitarian crisis first and foremost for "believing" Muslims who are irrationally fearing a man-made god. It follows the first victim of Islam is the "believing" Muslim.

ps: you fail. You are, once again, directing slanderous libel directed at a person, rather than at the supplied argumentation. As such, knowing you are bound to slander in enmity, you are projecting your own internal state outwards and imbuing others with it. Please note these are your own characteristics, not mine.

**RE: I will not respond to your inane and phobic ramblings in future as it is leading to a crisis for you.
It can be forecast from your increasingly irrational and shrill scribblings, you are even casting yourself as the victim here.
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You can not forecast based on a "belief" and expect it to be sound, unless ignorant.

P1 "Belief"-based ignorance certainly exists would that 'believers' "believe" what manifestly is, is not, and/or what manifestly is not, is (ie. conflation/confusion).

P2. "Knowledge" of what not to "believe" certainly exists by way of consciously trying to "know" if any/all "belief"-based assertions (as taken to be true) may be manifestly certainly false.

C "Belief" and "knowledge" are antithetically dichotomous wherein the latter is definitely pursued via indefinitely trying the former.

I tried you, and you are a fascist. You will probably continue to do it, because that is what fascists do: remain ignorant "believing" their accusations are actually not of themselves.

projection - (theistic equiv.: mark of Kain/Canaanite) - conscious/unconscious pathology of perpetual accusation(s) of others, the body/substance of which contains the characteristics of the accuser rather than the accused (ie. the accuser (substance of accusation) *is* (equal to) the accused).

You are marked in my book of life thus: ignorant of yourself.

**RE: There comes a time when a person's distress is so evident in their written pieces that it is cruel to continue to attempt any sort of communication as it only exacerbates the distress.
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Look in the mirror.

Here is something for you to help.

THE REFERENCE PROBLEM
Let any being 'I am' exist.
Let all else be 'that I am'.
If 'I am' is unknown, 'that I am' can not be relatively inferred.
If 'I am' is known, 'that I am' can be relatively inferred.
Follows:
'I am' must be 'known' to relatively infer 'that I am'.
Else is certainly "belief"-based ignorance.
Implies: it is impossible to prove/deny the existence of any/all god(s) less knowledge of 'I am'.

You don't know yourself because you constantly focus on others - therefor, the qualities they stir within you reflect your own nature, not theirs. You can not know anything relative to (being) an unknown, which is why I stated already all knowledge begins with 'I am'.

If you "believe" me (AGA) to be something I am not, that is due to you not knowing (ie. ignorance) of who you yourself are, which I now know, and now everyone knows, because you unknowingly projected it as if belonging to another. That is the problem when "belief" and enmity mix.

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