I'm curious: The national motto: "In God We Trust" has been deemed by the courts not to be a violation of the support of a single religion over others.
What about the fact that the word "God" is capitalized? As specifying a singular, named deity? Surely the addition of "All The" after the first word "In" and making the word plural would not alter the same all-inclusiveness of the phrase, and I (for one), would accept it as satisfying the rule of the law.
So suggest to make it: "In All The Gods We Trust."
I'm certain the multi-cultural minded individuals of this nation will agree! This certainly wouldn't expose the hypocrisy of the motto...
Of course "E Pleribus Unum" still has that "ring" to it...
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LOL...I like your brain. One of those tradition things I guess...most will look at this as an attack on culture as opposed to support of secularism. IMHO it's a small bridge to fight over, and I'm sure a bridge too far for the theitards.
BTW...where TF is that goat track and why TF are you driving down it.
Of course the ruling is bullshit, but while the Declaration of Independence is still held to be true ("We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights"), it is difficult to see the motto being removed from use.
Howdy, Psyeklotic! Welcome to the AR. (Which, I must say, is far nicer than the view you have from the top of that gun truck... *chuckle*) Granted, though, manning the gun could sometimes be fun. Grudgingly, though, I usually got stuck with driving... *pouting*... Hope that is not a current pic, by the way, and that you are back home safe and sound.
In regards to our National Motto, I admit I see your point. However, in the grand scheme of things, there are bigger and better battles to fight. Just my humble opinion. Besides, can you even imagine what it would take/cost to have it changed on every single piece of U.S. currency? EGADS!... *eeeeeek*... LOL...
Anyway, great having you with us. Looking forward to seeing you on the boards.
How can one not agree with such a sane and reasonable position, I am with Penn Jillette, when I get American money, I like to black out the word God with a permanent black marker. It's a bit silly, a minor protest at best, but I do feel good about it.
I will point out that the "National Motto" is not "our" National Motto...it is only that corner of the world that calls itself the United States. A misnomer if there ever was one.
There are many nationalities represented here on the forums. It would be well to remember that when we all post. The site itself is based in Canada, you know, that place with free medical just north of the US? I am pretty sure their national motto is "finish every sentence with 'eh'?"
"I am pretty sure their national motto is "finish every sentence with 'eh'?"
I think the new Canadian motto is:
"Pass me that spliff Spicoli."
"I'm curious: The national motto: "In God We Trust" has been deemed by the courts not to be a violation of the support of a single religion over others."
The word "God" is just a title that refers to the Boss. In this instance it means the national government and not an imaginary deity such as Jealous of the Bible or Allah of the Koran.
Since the government owns all of the money it can put whatever the hell the bureacrats want on it as long as I can spend the few bucks I get my mitts on.
@Diotrephes - You are generally right on top of this stuff. What are your thoughts?
But does the government actually own the money? The government borrows the money from the Federal Reserve and then pays interest, on what they borrow. The US Government is Bankrupt from what I have read. The Federal Reserve is a Private Business. "The Board is an independent agency of the federal government. But its decisions don't have to be approved by the president, legislators, or any elected official. Equally as important, the Fed does not receive its funding from Congress. Instead, its funds come from its investments. "
"But does the government actually own the money? The government borrows the money from the Federal Reserve and then pays interest, on what they borrow."
The American system can be hard to understand but as a general rule all national governments own the money. We just get limited use of it. It only has value as long as the government gives it value. When the national government collapses you end up with worthless paper that doesn't even make good toilet paper.
In America we have 12 Federal Reserve Districts that print the money. A $5 bill from Boston has the same value as a $5 bill printed in San Francisco because the federal government guarantees the value (which will vary over time due to inflation).
@Diotrephes: " It only has value as long as the government gives it value. " Excellent point. The Government can Nationalize any time it chooses and refuse to pay debts or even change the monetary system. Even though the FED charges interest, the Gov. can, in the end, tell them to take a hike.
However, notice it says "In God We Trust." As one politician who visited our class answered the same question I posed like a 1000 years ago, no, there is no violation since "God" is not defined and could refer to any god.
My unspoken thought? What a pile of horse hoowhee.