The Zeitgeist Movement

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Lmale's picture
Should have said im in the uk

Should have said im in the uk. Not only do i think the democratic party in the us is sincerely trying to help but i dread the thought of the republicans gaining power.

Danny Craft's picture
A lot of "parties" are doing

A lot of "parties" are doing the best they can within the system. I'm sure a lot of them honestly believe they can and are really going to bring about some positive change. But think about it.. Changing a few policies here and there, spending more money here, less money there, it's all just merely rearranging bullshit and an absolute definite fact about it is, it isn't making any difference to the big picture.
.. As far as choice goes, we all know we have very little, sure we can choose from one from a few PRESELECTED "parties," but whoever gets elected can still only operate with the boundaries of the same system. And once again, it's not one group to blame for anything, it's the system as a whole..

This isn't aimed at anyone in here, though it may apply.. It amazes me how so many people bog themselves down about the "ways of the world" and all the terror we see and/or hear about on a daily basis. Endless whinging and misery and real deep dark depression and people feeling totally powerless. But then you present them with a logical, feasible potential solution and everyone turns deaf, almost automatically as if they're not in control. All of a sudden the complaining turns to defense of the system they were just moaning about! A system we all hate, and all know is driving this species to a pathetic extinction.. Ask yourself, and anyone else the next time you hear them complaining about the world and/or the system; really, what is the point is talking about all the worlds problems if you're not going to talk about a solution?
.. It needs to be known that TZM is a massively positive thing, and as far as I have discovered, the single best hope humanity has of surviving in the long run and evolving to the next level. That's why the negativity I often receive towards it just baffles me, but I understand that it's only through ignorance. As creepy as it may sound, I know that if any relatively intelligent, open-minded and critical thinking person takes the time to fully understand what TZM advocates they would support it. We have a choice people. We always have, and we always will. But not within this system. Within this system we never really have, and we never really will.

It's time to change

Ellie Harris's picture
The entire Original post

The entire Original post sounds like a late night self help advert.

Danny Craft's picture


Jeff Vella Leone's picture
"This “Natural Law/Resource

"This “Natural Law/Resource-Based Economy" (NLRBE) is about taking a direct technical approach to social management as opposed to a monetary or even political one. It is about updating the workings of society to the most advanced and proven methods known, leaving behind the damaging consequences and limiting inhibitions which are generated by our current system of monetary exchange, profit, business and other structural and motivational issues."

This is the objective I was talking about, which could be simplified;

Removing value of objects and giving it to human beings with an Utopian type of system.

I have given a lot of thought about this and came to the conclusion that it can be done if first we have free energy.
That is why we haven't got free energy yet although it has been discovered by Tesla already.

The guys in power are not stupid, they know that once free energy becomes public, money(object value) and corruption is the next thing to go with enough time.
They will do everything to keep their control over power including killing people.
Every body that even tried to get free energy and was close after Tesla, was immediately persecuted and his funding cut.
Check history if you thing i am exaggerating it.
Free energy is a 60 year old technology and we are deprived from it by these power hungry people that have shares in oil companies etc...

Zaphod's picture
The best way to rid the super

The best way to rid the super wealthy of their powers is to get rid of the need for the resources they control or find ways to provide ample amounts more than they control.. Free universal energy drawn from the earth and transmitted through the air as Tesla was working on would take care of the need for many of these resources but not all of them, more than people may think though.

Science is definitely the best thing we have going for us in terms of possibly balancing out the power. But there are resources like gold and until recently diamond that were hard or excessively expensive to reproduce. Also don't forget humans can be considered a resource. Automation and social change is definitely some thing people should embrace though.

Danny Craft's picture
We already no longer have

We already no longer have need for the resources they control. And (hopefully) it's only a matter of time before the majority realizes this and moves for change.
.. The biggest threat we currently face is our own ignorance.

Jeff Vella Leone's picture
Yea just wanted to Like this

Yea just wanted to Like this post since I do agree a lot that human ignorance is the biggest threat.

If you have enough money and control over the media, you can make the people believe anything.


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