Have you ever found yourself upset with people you interact with for moral integrity? Or for lack of critical thinking?
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I would say I get frustrated with those that are blatantly intellectually dishonest or simply oxygen deprived morons...
Under this category tends to be 'intelligent design' idiots, creationists and flattards (flat earthers).
Fuck I said anything...the folks I met on this site just wanna be the smart guy...not really care what I have to say...just make me hear them...I like what I have read from your posts though Tandomhero1982.
I think they just like correct questioning and phrasing because otherwise their answers can easily manipulated and/or twisted.
Your very welcome, I try to answer everything I can with the facts available to me rather than relying on my opinion.
Sure. Here is an example: President Pussygrabber and everyone that voted for him
Lack of critical thinking? Absolutely.
I even been upset at my self for not properly employing critical thinking in situations in my own life.
Moral integrity? Not really, everyone's morals are slightly different. As long as their "morals" do not effect my rights, I do not tend to get upset.
I hate wimps. People that think that they are some macho badass. I have fought them all my life. Probably why I took the path that I did.
Hello, I am new here.
I would say the 20th century has given us enough materiel to get upset with people who lack moral integrity or critical thinking.
Hi, Charlie. Welcome to AR!
Sometimes I get into heated debates where I've gotten overly passionate. I wish I could say I never allowed myself to get emotionally entangled, but it happens, usually with people who dont except the facts or evidence I present. I would rather keep calm and rational...I'm working on it!
In the past, I used to lose my temper with blockheadead theists... Because stupidity and lack of reasonable arguments is really frustating. Now, if I see that the person is too zealous, and employs stupid reasons from the very beginning, especially when it's not someone dear to me, I prefer to pass and I recommend to do the same.
Last time I remember myself engaging in a debate with a theist, I was waiting for the bus, and two Jehovah witnesses approached me and started to tell me their loony stuff. I listened to them quiet and very carefully for a few minutes, then I told them that I was an atheist and started to debunk all of their assertions. One of them gave up, and when we were on the bus, she sat at the back of it, far enough to avoid listening to me. The other one -despite their crazy statements- was really nice and we had a really interesting debate, because she was as curious about me as I was about her. But if you feel that the person you're having the conversation, does not have any curiosity at all, as mykcob says, a macho badass attitude (even if it's a woman), there's no point in spending your time on that or to lose your temper.
When I was a theist, there was a point in my life that I was fearful of watching such shows as "Cosmos" or anything on the PBS channel that may perhaps lead me away from my belief. You probably rattled, the individual who went to the back of the bus, beliefs about god.
I understand how you feel about attempting to not waste your time losing your temper with those you encounter upon occasion (I'm a huge fan of Sam Harris and utilize guided meditation to help me understand my own temperamental emotions through introspection). But on the contrary, it is extremely difficult if you encounter theists on an everyday basis, with your family, with your coworkers, with everyone you encounter you know. Frustration tends to bubble up over time in this sort of situation.
Yes ... and I wish it weren't so often. The #1 reason that causes me to lose it is racism. It has to the most ignorant way of thinking there is -- even over the Jesus freaks.
It might help if people understood the connection between surprise and outrage. It isn't the human trafficking or starving children that induces loss of temper, it is the person who enters the lane in front unexpectedly and unacceptably close to our car. Our amygdala reacts to surprise before our frontal cortex provides intellectual balance and analysis.
Frustration can occur if a conversation doesn't proceed as expected. Feeling some surprise when a different result was anticipated but frustrated may not be avoidable.
I find it helps to slow the discussion if a conversation leads to disputation. It gives more time for the frontal cortex to react. (More thinking and less talking).
Good advice! Breathing and taking long pauses may help.
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Have you ever found yourself upset with people you interact with for moral integrity? Or for lack of critical thinking?"
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Two separate schisms of the mind.
Yes, I do find myself at odds with the person but have lost the desire to target them for it. They are at a loss through some outside influence and in that regard it could be their whole world. Not gonna take that on.
"Moral integrity"? Wuzzat? Fair question?
"Critical thinking"? Same as above.
If I brought to the debate table all that I could morally carry to critically attempt a debate I'd be laboring foolishly for doing so. I'm an atheist. I have no desire to discuss or even think about either of those two things. I declared myself an atheist to rid myself of that kind of observation in my fellow man. By that declaration I became a recluse. Man kind can live or die however he wants and I don't care. If it kills me, well, it'll lessen my journey to that fate.
Atheists seem to engage where atheism has deferred them from engaging. I don't get it. I do understand it's man's innate curiosity that compels him to question his world but psychological dissection of the human psyche in casual dialog by the same people who question theism beats the proverbial dead horse, no?
I guess the decision of engaging in theists issues, responds to individual reasons. For me, I guess it satifies two longings:
1st. It's a question of empathy, because I was a theist when I was a kid, and a confused agnostic as a teenager and young adult. I think that it would have been good for me to have a bunch of people defying my silly arguments back then.
2nd. It's a way of testing and perfectioning your arguments, when it comes to debate with a theist outside this space.
And I'm sorry, Pitar, I lack that cultural reference... what's the proverbial dead horse? Could anyone explain it to me?
It's an idiom (beating a dead horse); it means to do something that is pointless.
Understood! Thank you very much.