Stupid things religious people say

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megamike64's picture
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I love your comment

ex-christian_atheist's picture
When I encounter Christians

When I encounter Christians online who "don't want to argue" they never fail to say two things.
1) "I'll pray for you" - Well good for you, but why do you feel the need to announce it? Does that make it more effective, or do you just really want me to know that you'll be talking to youself about how right you are and how wrong I am?
2) "Don't worry, you'll return to God one day." - No, no, you'll soon realize that your beliefs are completely false. There, now we've both made arrogant, insulting predictions abot one another without any basis for our assertions. Wonderful way to shut down the conversation.

Lmale's picture
Come on a lost of the

Come on a lost of the stupidest things theist say and no mention of pascals wager? Im ashamed. Lol
Whats more stupid than saying what if your wrong why dont you worship just in case.
First problem i can say what if your wrong and the odds are damn high that you are there are 1000 gods none have evidence are you going to worship them all just incase.
Second problem i cant force myself to believe now that ive seen the light (like the irony of my phrase lol) so id be pretending and you claim your god is omniscient (most versions are) you really think he wont know im pretending.

Nyarlathotep's picture
Those are great points

Those are great points against Pascal's Wager, but I'd like to offer yet another. For a wager to be a good wager this must be satisfied:

(cost of wager) < (payout for winning)*(probability of winning)

Let's consider the possible values these variables might have:

payout for winning: essentially what is heaven worth? Let's agree this is a large positive number for the sake of argument.

probability of winning : essentially what is the probability that the Christianity is more or less correct? This could be any number from 0 to 1. Let's give the Christians the benefit of the doubt and say it is a number greater than 0.

(payout for winning)*(probability of winning): Since both numbers are greater than 0, this product must be greater than 0.

cost of wager: Essentially how much does it cost to believe in god? This is where Pascal goofed. He assumed the cost is 0. But many people would disagree with this. It is not hard to imagine there is a cost associated with believing in Christianity.

We know both sides of the equation are greater than 0 (with our assumptions), yet we don't know the actual value of either side. Therefore we can not say if it is a good wager or not.

Nyarlathotep's picture
wow my inequality didn't show

wow my inequality didn't show up in the post... I'll try again:

cost of wager < (payout for winning)*(probability of winning)

Nyarlathotep's picture
sigh it didn't appear again,

sigh it didn't appear again, last try:

cost of wager = payout for winning*probability of winning

...

Precipice's picture
I only recently started

I only recently started having these talks with Christians, and I keep getting these:

1. the Pascal's wager
2. I'm going to go to hell, not because God is sending me there, but because I'm not opening the gift he has so kindly presented to me.
3. Why don't you open the door in your heart to Jesus?

Sigh.

Seenyab4's picture
My best friend actually used

My best friend actually used the Adam and Steve line the other day, so I'm I a little disappointed.

Ari Bendavid's picture
I had a great opportunity

I had a great opportunity once. I am an old man now and times are different so this might be hard to understand. A christian was telling me how much they are being persecuted here in America. I asked him if he ever experienced a beating for it. I told him of a time i was a young boy. Religion was only popular with old people then and there. Well, i once went to church with my grandmother . When i came out, my father beat me for going in. It made me cry but i got over it soon enough. I never did become a christian.! This American christian never came near to anything like that happening to him !

RebelliousPearl's picture
I once had a debate with a

I once had a debate with a Muslim (when I was still one, struggling with my beliefs, although she still thinks I am since I can't come out, so she would probably still use the argument) about homosexuality. I asked why would God get angry at gay people if he created them, she said it was a choice, so I sent her links to articles proving that biologic factors play an important role in sexuality. And what did she say? "Science is relative until proven by the Quran", the hell?

ThePragmatic's picture
- "Science is relative until

- "Science is relative until proven by the Quran"

Haha, that's the funnies thing I've heard in a while.

RebelliousPearl's picture
Yep, this is the type of

Yep, this is the type of stuff that made me wtf my way out of the religion.

JohannaDawson's picture
"When you will be old, you

"When you will be old, you will change your mind"
And that, my favorite type of dialog:
" - What`s your religion? - I am an atheist. - Oh,well. So, when do you celebrate Christmas?"

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