Oh fk it! The Quaran must be true. .

To be truly wise you must believe whatever the foolish believe. 2:13

No one understands the allegorical stuff except for Allah. 3:7 (And it sure seems Search for Truth has no idea what he is talking about.)

I am quite certain this applies to all of Searching for Truth's posts.

@David Killens

“First off, using math as a comparison is not valid, because math is precise and not open to interpretation. There is only one answer, 4.” The exact same thing is true with the Quran on its core message of peace. Just because others understand different does NOT mean it’s true. Not every single thing in the Quran is open for interpretation. Small example, when the Quran says don’t drink alcohol, there is no interpretation needed as its very straight forward. I hope we can at least agree on that. But, when the Quran says (and I am paraphrasing here) that men should not touch/freely interact with women that are not their wives, sisters, mothers or any close relation. A verse like that is open for interpretation and understanding since the Quran also has “common sense” in it, since it came from the creator and the creator knows his creation he knows this verse cannot be taken very literal. For example, if a Muslim woman sees a man drowning what is she supposed to do? According to the extremists they will say the Quran says she should leave him alone but, the people that truly understand the message and theme of Islam will say that she should jump in and save him and even give him mouth to mouth if that’s what needed and will save his life. The problem with the ignorant when they talk about the Quran is they, for some reason, tend to assume people are perfect and Islam is the problem. These uneducated claims and comments are mostly and mainly brought by Islamic haters and Atheists (sorry to say). I have said this multiple times in the past and will most likely say it many more times in the future, read the Quran as well as the life of the prophet, understand both then make a judgement.

“Your Koran, the bible, and other religious texts are imperfect, they are flawed. In the bible or Koran you can find one page that preaches humility, peace, and forbearance, while on the next page you can find murder, intolerance, and cruelty.” FALSE (in regards to the Quran or Koran both spellings work), read the Quran, understand its message then comment.

“Additionally, I am certain with high confidence that you learned your religion on your mother's knee, which means you followed the religion in the geographical area you were raised in. You did not choose your religion, your community chose what religion you had to follow.” Every day I learn more and more about how random people on this forum keep telling things about myself that I did not know. Let’s see if you are right. My mom is Puerto Rican that was born and raised in NY. My dad is “White” American that was born and raised in Jacksonville, FL. My mom went to an all Christian school growing up while my dad went to public school, both Christian. I was raised mainly between Orlando and Atlanta, yup, you are 100% correct. NY, Jacksonville, Orland and Atlanta are all 100% Muslim cities and Islam is taught starting from day care as well. David, you are a genius.

” I had the honor to have dinner just last Friday with some wonderful people, Muslims from Pakistan. We did touch a bit discussing religion, but in the end, we all agreed that the solution to many of today's ills are diplomacy, not violence. That is their perspective, because the community they were raised in practiced that interpretation of the Koran. In another part of Pakistan, some communities hold a different interpretation on the Koran, one of violent fundamentalism.” All I can say is read the book and you come to you conclusion. Atheists seem to pride themselves on knowledge yet, their complete fear (yes, fear) and rejection to even understanding anything when it comes to religion is in complete contradiction of what they claim to be proud of. Although, Atheism has nothing to do with logic so me trying pointing out how illogical atheism is, is me just wasting time. Anyway, moving on.

“That is my point, that with an imperfect book it is open to various interpretations, each one which could be considered "right". They use the same book, they study it diligently, spend countless hours discussing that book, but their final conclusion differs from yours.” What standard do you judge a book as perfect or imperfect by? If everything is subjective why should I accept your conclusion of it being imperfect? While you will rush to quickly judge something as imperfect, let me give you this example. While not directly from the Quran but from the Sunnah (teachings of the Prophet) in hopes to try and show you another example of how common sense must and should be applied to Islam. One of the rules of prayer is to pray with clean clothes, a man once approached the prophet and told him that a certain tribe or group of people were praying with dirty clothes. The prophet knew that those people lived in an area where due to their work (mainly farming) it was hard for them to keep their clothes clean so he said yes, they can pray with whatever clothes they have. You go ask an extremist about this they will tell you that those people are not Muslim because it says pray with clean clothes but they don’t. This all goes back to one of the main messages of the prophet which was to always make everyone’s life easier. Islam does not burden people beyond what they are capable of, extremists do. So in order to be considered "right" it needs to fall within the boundaries of Islam. Let’s assume you went on a tour to “preach” Atheism, given your main message of atheism, what would you say if someone said David’s message is to donate money to religious organization? Should I accept what they say as true or should I actually look at David’s main message and see if it falls in line with this statement? Stop taking common sense out of the equation due to hate.

“When it comes to religion, there is not just one conclusion, everything is cherry-picked to suit the person, to fit their agenda and beliefs imparted on them by others.” Again, false when it comes to Islam. Islam has 1 single message.

“I suggest you read up and study "No true Scotsman" because you are beating this fallacy to death, and the great majority of atheist debaters in here recognize your failed tactics.” Let’s make a deal, I will “read up and study "No true Scotsman"” if you read the Quran? Let’s actually try and see things from a different point of view prior to judging. What do you say?

I apologize in advice for any typos I might have as I am typing this up on my phone

Again - provide evidence your interpretation of Quran is more valid than others. Else we are equally free to make our own interpretations.

Also, address this, before even claiming that interpreting Qoran is acceptable or required to begin with:

No one understands the allegorical stuff except for Allah. 3:7