I suppose that there should be no better time for a deity to come and prove itself than during this period. Some theists will make excuses that the virus was permitted by their god as punishment, or that the virus is a signal of the impending end of the world. How will we know this? How can we verify this?
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The virus was supposed to wipe out 60% of the population but because of the good prayers of the faithful God is only going to take a small 20% tithe.
Because he loves you!
Here's something to ponder...
Their god has a PERFECT PLAN that it cannot and will not change for ANY reason, because - well.... - it's a PERFECT plan, right? Therefore, it obviously stands to reason this virus we are dealing with is part of that Perfect Plan made by their ALL-POWERFUL/ALL-KNOWING god. YET.....
All these millions (billions?) of supposed "faithful" believers must not have too much optimism in regards to god's Perfect Plan, because they all keep praying to their god to make it all go away. Hmmmm.... *scratching head in puzzled manner*.... Wonder if any of them know the definition of hypocrite?... *chuckle*...
He is working in mysterious ways.....
His virus to perform
The Boomer Remover is all part of the plan.
@All: Look at the bright side (No Monty Python pun intended) At least it's not another fucking flood!
On the other hand, floods and plagues and wars, Oh my! Floods and plagues and wars, Oh my! Floods and plagues and wars, Oh my! This fucking god thing has no imagination at all. NONE! How about an alien invasion just to make things interesting?
Or a Chimp vs Bonobo hockey match? Or a hairy primate invasion? Or a butterfly death attack? FFs so tired of this shite just repeating itself.
At least we can be happy knowing the corporations and banks will come through unscathed with bonuses intact thanks to our funds.
I wanted a zombie apocalypse. This virus sucks!
@Andromeda Re: "I wanted a zombie apocalypse. This virus sucks!"
I hear ya, brother! All the years I've spent stockpiling ammo and sharpening my katana to a razor edge.... Stocking up on bolts for my crossbow... Countless days out in all kinds of weather practicing headshots, knife plunges, and sword slices on goop-filled milk jugs painted to look like zombie heads... Hours and hours and hours in front of the television watching "The Walking Dead" and taking meticulous notes.... *heavy sigh*... Totally going to waste. I swear, I totally pictured the apocalypse being MUCH MORE exciting than this... *sad sigh*... I think I need a hug... *single tear drop running down cheek*...
@Tin Re:" I think I need a hug"
No hugs allowed, stay 6 feet away at all times. I recommend "going solo", that seems to be allowed, just wash hands thoroughly afterwards.
@NewSkeptic Re: "No hugs allowed, stay 6 feet away at all times."
Hey! You've never heard of body condoms? Now come here and give me my damn hug, you asshole!
TM ... Hours and hours and hours in front of the television watching "The Walking Dead" and taking meticulous notes....
Same, but I get to be Carol!!!
Just wait, just wait...this ain’t over yet - and you know - it can adapt ... the Chinese will eat our kiddies that Cog sold and BOOM. COG-13 will be unleashed- lots of ways, things can turn around so you can bash in some heads...
Trying to make you feel better
@Whitefire Re: "... the Chinese will eat our kiddies that Cog sold and BOOM. COG-13 will be unleashed..."
...*wiping away tear*... *new gleam of hope in eyes*... You... You really think so?... *dreamy look on face*... Gosh, that would be swell. A bunch of little Cog zombies to bash and slaughter... *pantomimes swinging baseball bat*... *big smile slowly spreading across face*... Thanks, White. You've given me hope.
I believe the actual end times was supposed to have already come according to Paul..
and some of the gospels.
In their generation the end was supposed to come.
I was thinking about this virus and this as well as many other things that went on
In the world since Jesus ascended weren’t mentioned in the Bible.
"I believe the actual end times was supposed to have already come according to Paul..
and some of the gospels"
Indeed. you're actually understating the case. The religion putatively founded by Jesus began as a millenarian movement. It was understood by disciples that Jesus would return within their lifetimes. *** The bible records Jesus as saying he would return 'soon' several times.
When Jesus did not return followers of "The Way" did what people in such sects sometimes do: The time for the second coming was changed to some vague indeterminate date in the future and quietly dropped, although it has remained as part of doctrine.
Today there are a couple of such sects alive and well; Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah's Witnesses. They use The Book Of Revelations as a base for their predictions. When the predictions fail to come true they just find new ones and move on.
It annoys the crap out of most Christians to be told [as fact] that Christianity is just another failed millenarian movement. This is yet another instance in which experts in biblical hermeneutics earn their keep. They explain how the gospels don't actually mean what they say in all such cases.
***"Mark 9 is the ninth chapter of the Gospel of Mark in the New Testament of the Christian Bible. It begins with Jesus' prediction that "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power".
My reference on millenarian movements : The superb book "New Heaven New earth; a study of millenarian activities'" by Kenelm Burridge.
"I was thinking about this virus and this as well as many other things that went on
In the world since Jesus ascended weren’t mentioned in the Bible."
Like the internet?
I do not intend to be facetious Itianish, but the bible was written by barbaric nomads over two thousand years ago. A lot has happened since then.
Here is what many members of my extended family are doing, they've taken their faith declarations to Facebook. Here is one horrendous example, please provide your own barf bag:
My name is (insert your name) and until the Lord calls me away from this world to the next, I want to make it clear that I believe in Jesus Christ as the true Lord and Savior. I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, was sacrificed on the cross, died for our sins, and rose again. He loves us all dearly (far more than we deserve) and forgives our sins if we are in repentance. His Word says "whosoever believeth in Me, should not perish but have everlasting life!
This is the best challenge I have seen on Facebook, so if the Holy Spirit moves you and you’re not ashamed, just copy, replace my name with yours and make this your status update.
Can I get an Amen for being a believer in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
I'm actually tempted to modify this into a skeptics version and post. Maybe Tin could do the write-up.
Challenge accepted... *snicker*.... Give me a bit, though. Got a busy day ahead.
@NewSkeptic Re: Write-up
Here ya go, Skep. Let me know what you think... *chuckle*...
Hi, my name is (Insert Name Here). And until Theists somehow manage to provide some form of tangible evidence for their imaginary supernatural world, I want to make it clear that I will continue to not believe in whatever particular god entity they proclaim as their true lord and savior. I believe in the reality that is before me in my daily life. I choose to act like an adult and take full responsibility for my own actions and words. I do not ask an imaginary friend for assistance during difficult times and then sit by idly while waiting for requested assistance. Instead, I prefer to get up off my ass, make difficult decisions, and take whatever actions are necessary to help myself.
Each day of my life I FREELY CHOOSE to be a good person and help others whenever possible, simply because it is the right thing to do. I DO NOT do good for the promise of some grand “eternal reward.” And I do not refrain from doing bad simply because of a threat of some horrendous “eternal punishment.” I follow my OWN conscious and dictate my OWN personal code of ethics and integrity, and I live with the consequences of whatever decisions I might make, whether they be good or bad. I absolutely REFUSE to lay the blame upon, or give credit to, some ancient entity created by the imagination of Man.
This is not a challenge. This is simply who and what I am. And I am not ashamed to use my sense of logic and critical thinking to remain grounded in a rational reality.
Can I get a thumbs-up for no longer believing in fairytales centered around a schizophrenic, sociopathic, misogynistic, genocidal, incompetent, insecure bully?
@TM - great awesome job
I can hardly wait to see if this Facebook declaration lands up on my page - cause goddamnit I’m doing it...
Wow, just sensational. If only I actually had the guts. Now is not the time, I have an ailing mother who just would not understand all this. Some day perhaps. I just cut and pasted so I can save. Would love to respond anonymously somehow.
Such a wealth of arrogance in such a humble declaration.
Should have ended with "And all you atheists can go fuck yourselves."
"And all you atheists can go fuck yourselves."
I tried that and auto fellatio when I was about 15, with no success at all. .
Should have spent more time doing Yoga.
That was the reason I took up yoga. I failed too, but I think its one of those cruel jokes of nature. You can achieve the position when you are like five or six and your body is maximally flexible, but you have no urge to. Then as you reach puberty there's some sort of trade off between flexibility and achieving erections. But like most things, you learn its more fun to share.
Whitefire13: Idiots in charge of the asylum.
If it's up to its usual form, it's waiting for human science to halt it, so it can then watch it's feckless followers give it the credit.
Too true. Everyone knows that god is only responsible for the people that recover, not for the ones that don't make it. It's in the plan.
What sort of god plan is covid 19, that kills the innocent and sinners alike? A bad immoral one. Hence, a god is immoral and very bad.
...and IMH personal opinion, a childish, jealous, bigoted, homophobic, misogynistic, genocidal, repressive, fucktard...that loves you...ummmm ya.
@Cranky and Grinseed: How interesting. I have just come into possession of a huge purple strap on with green and pink swirls and gold, but slightly chewed tassels. Perhaps we could make a short term rental deal before I have to turn them over to TIN MAN.