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As far as I can tell, Nyarlathotep is spot on. The Big Bang is an infinite expansion and a supernova is an explosion. Although an explosion is essentially a rapid expansion, that expansion dissipates over a relatively short period of time. The Big Bang expansion is increasing, thus the basic difference. Also, the material is different. In an explosion, material changes form. In the Big Bang, the material remains basically the same.
Andrewcgs, what is your background specific to science? To what extent have you studied it? Education level? Credentials?
I have explained that is the in/out duality that a black hole aka a dead star is sucking and is a possibility of how our universe could be expanding out and i have explained that multiple scientist have said we are made of materials from the big bang and the stars
Andrewcgs - "that a black hole aka a dead star is sucking"
All objects exert a force of attraction ("suck") on all other objects.
Andrewcgs - "multiple scientist have said we are made of materials from the big bang and the stars"
The food in my house comes from the grocery store and my garden. This is not evidence that the grocery store and my garden are the same "event"/thing.
It would have to be more than one source of evidence that point to them being the same thing which i have 6 absolutes that points to the big bang and a supernova being the same event. The other points are opinions you cant just take one point of proof you have to take multiple sources of proof and evaluate collectively
Are you mad?! You have nothing more absolute than the existence of unicorns!
Andrewcgs - 1.They are both explosions
The big bang is a homogeneous, isotropic expansion. A supernova is not homogeneous or isotropic. This gives us 2 objects with very different properties, but you want to claim they are the same.
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Andrewcgs - 2.I have heard from different scientist that we are made of star stuff and also big bang material.
As I told you, stars produce heavy elements, the big bang produces light elements. If two objects are the same, they shouldn't produce different stuff!
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Andrewcgs - 3.theoretically that would mean the big bang is the beginning of a universe and the supernova is the end of the long lived star...
Here you describe them as different things, while trying to maintain they are the same!
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Andrewcgs - 4.this universe is expanding and black holes sucking in everthing in its path that is another duality (in and out).
Black holes are not supernova. Additionally, you have argued that because they have similar properties they must be the same. But now you are arguing the reverse: if they seem to have (somewhat) opposite traits, they must be the same! Seems to me like you are going to argue they are the same, NO MATTER WHAT!
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Andrewcgs - 5. Near the event horizion of a black hole time slows down a month there is like 5 years on earth which proves my different universal laws theory were time, sapce and gravity could work faster or slower or not exits at all.
As I told you before, all objects have this property.
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Lmao there is nothing nobody could say on this site to make me mad im actually very happy the fact you guys disagree brings me closer to what i consider truth but i think your trying to make me mad which is a childish tactic you might have gotten from the teenager who recommended you to this site. I dont feel alot of maturity from you Xavier what brings me to think about my nephew (his name is xavier)who is in jail for the same reasons
I have no reason to make you angry, and your attempts to slap me in the face fall comically short. Grow up and try again.
I suspect we have a youth in Andrewcgs that wants very much to seen as smart. All we get are crazy theories that amount to nothing and a great deal of evasiveness when he/she is asked to provide evidence.
Ergo "Isn't the Big Bang and a supernova the same thing." It has been explained that they are quite different, but nothing will distract this individual from the fantasy they exist in. And his/her reply to Xavier is completely out of bounds, equating Xavier to their jailbird nephew simply because they have the same name....STUPID and CHILDISH.
I turned 23 yesterday but the name and the lack of maturity is what sparked to connect my 18 year old nephew in this conversation. I have provided solid evidence which has been rejected by bias beliefs which is the character trait of a religious person how ironic but i have explained they are quite the same
I'm a 32 year old man with 10 years service in the Russian Air Force. I guarantee you I have the higher maturity.
I have to commend users like chimp3 and The Pragmatic, as their silence is surely an indicator of their maturity rising above all our own.
Some things are so egregious they demand a response, maturity be damned. And, those two don't seem to be on much.
Waaat? Did you just accuse me of being mature? :D
Thanks, I think.
Anyway, this farce of a debate is self sustaining, no need to add more of my ignorance to the mix...
We could use your sense of humor injected into these arguments more often, Prag
Xavier de Forres i have seen immature 32 year olds even 40s,50s,and 60s in my day so maturity does not always come with age.
I see now that you have an impenatrable wall of narrcisum built up, and you will hold on to even the most fleeting thread of it for dear life. I bid you ado, tovarich.
Galaxy clusters are accelerating away from us in already existing space.
Black holes banish matter into cosmic voids
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Black_holes_banish_matter_into_cosmic_...
"Some of the matter falling towards the [supermassive black] holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies."
At the scale of our Universe the energy described above is dark energy. A Universal black hole is powering our visible Universe causing the galaxy clusters to accelerate away from us.
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If you disagree with my points its kind of like disagreeing that an apple and orange are sweet,round, and grow on trees its just insane that we cant come to the conclusion of them both being fruit.thats when i know this isn't intelligent conversation when we cant agree on similarities,opposites and solid perspectives.therefore anything viewed as creditable is rapidly decreasing and what i thought was the most intelligent community which i don't condemn as a whole but first impressions are unimpressive.
When similarity's are only in the eye of the beholder, expecting agreements is pointless, tovarich.
mpc755 that is the very point i disagree with weather or not you agree with me about the supernova being the big bang.The similarities and opposites are true weather you guys agree or not that points is like a person who doesn't believe in global warming its true and happening despite a persons opinion
Who gave you the authority to decide what is true and what's not. That is really a matter of perspective first, and a matter of proof second.
Andrewcgs I thought you wanted to understand what dark energy is. Dark energy is the energy associated with the outflow of the Universal 'galaxy' we exist in.
The fact that both events started from a hot dense point is not a similarity? your on drugs if you disagree
Yes. Is that enough to say they are the same? Hell no. Work on your logic, tovarich.
I know that LMAO
The facts that both events are explosions aka expanding explosions is not a similarity?
Yet you have based the entirety of your claim off of this. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
A tomato is red. My car is red. They can both be cut. They can both burn. They both smell when they get old. Are they the same thing? Nope. Your dog does not hunt, tovarich.
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