False, fabricated and unsubstantiated claims against Islam

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Ramo Mpq's picture
@Cog,

@Cog,

No, i am not a scholar.

Out of the 5 videos you posted, you got a specific point you are making in order to answer my question? Got a specific minute i should go to?

Ramo Mpq's picture
@old man

@old man

"You're not debating, you are not searching, you are looking for confirmation of your sad life choices" How about provide an answer then lets talk?

"you watched hundreds of hours of Youtube videos before you converted?" I said videos as well as articles and scholarly written papers

" For fucks sake, don't that say it all?....a youtube moslem" Yes, it says you clearly were NOT paying attention and/or simply choosing to answer and reply to something you wish i said instead of what i said. More than once on this forum i said i read a lot, compared regions and atheism and even went and spoke to scholars and visited all the places of worship.

"The thing is, you seem quite bright, with a great sense of humor, just sadly, very fucking stupid." ummm thank you???

arakish's picture
False, fabricated and

False, fabricated and unsubstantiated claims against Islam

Someone Still Doing the X-Files Thing (The truth is still out there)

Admins/Mods: The fault here belongs to SfT since he has officially asked for it. I apologize to all other forum board members for some statements. However, I did give fair warning somewhere else — Quote by Francis Quarles: "Beware of him that is slow to anger; for when it is long coming, it is the stronger when it comes, and the longer kept. Abused patience turns to fury." I have been patient enough against his arrogance and ad hominem attacks and ignorant behaviour against everybody at the Atheist Republic. As that quote says, it is now fury.

Searching for truth: I have mentioned in diferent threads that I no longer read anything Sheldon says. Long story short, he's simply not worth the time.

Just like you have done when I confronted you about false accussations you have made against me. And do not ask me to point them out. I know you read them because you have posted just above or just below. If anyone is ignorant, it is you.

And to answer your OP question...

Lawrence Krauss vs Hamza Tzortzis - Islam vs Atheism Debate
Lawrence Krauss DOES mention some of the atrocities. However, Hamza Tzortzis uses the same apologetic dodging you have always been using.

DEBATE: Atheist vs Muslim (Christopher Hitchens vs Tariq Ramadan)
And I already know what Christopher Hitchens has to say about Islam...

10 Times Non-Believers Arguments Blew Our Minds, Part 6; (already timestamped to 16:30, watch until 18:24)
Ayaan Hirsi Ali who is from one of the most viscious Muslim nations, if not the most viscious: Somalia.

Richard Dawkins VS Islam - FULL Interview and Q&A - Richard Dawkins On Islam
Richard Dawkins in an interview Q&A.

Big Atheism-Theism Debate: Dr Arif Ahmed VS Abdullah al Andalusi [Nottingham University, 2017]
And this was initiated by the Muslim Debate Initiative.

And there are many more I have found, mostly in transcript. If anyone else posted these videos, sorry, I ain't checked.

If Islam is so bad, why aren't all these "atrocities" that the lazy, ignorant and arrogant haters here bring up ever brought up by Scientists and scholars in a professional and educated debate against a Muslim Scholar?

Answered.

BTW: I am NOT lazy. I am NOT ignorant. I am NOT arrogant. I am NOT a hater. How many times have I said on these forum boards that the ONLY bigotry (hatred if you wish) I have is a bigotry against bigots? The only other hatred I have is against ALL religion. Have you read this meme of mine I have posted here elsewhere?

I have never truly believed in ANY religion, especially the Absolutist religions. There is no philosophical ideology more divisive than religion. And, the worst part of ANY religion is that it is an ideology that is implicitly and explicitly protected from any and all criticism from both within and without. Why should any ideology, especially religion, be so privileged? Can you not see how disastrous this way of thinking can be, and is? I firmly believe, and shall take this belief to my grave, that the human species would have been much better off had there NEVER been ANY form of religion. It is due to religions, and their way of thinking, and their theological disagreements, that has created the greatest destruction, injury, death, harm, immorality, wickedness, and abuse to the human species than any other cause. The main problem is not religious fundamentalism, but the fundamentals of religion. Ultimately, it is Religion that is Humankind’s worst enemy. — RMF Runyan

Just because I was born and raised in a “Christian” nation, please realize I am an equal opportunity atheist, anti-theist, anti-religionist. I despise them ALL. For the most part, and most accurate, I am an anti-religionist. Militant Anti-Religionist. I attack religions and their beliefs, and what their immoral and savage indoctrination processes do to people. My arguments are actually directed to religion as a whole. ANY AND ALL religion. Furthermore, I have also adopted Aron Ra’s term of apistevist (an individual who does not rely on religious faith to discern facts).

And I have read the Qu'ran. And I remember enough of it to know it is just as lousy a piece of shit as the Bible.

And I am a scientist. I work as a Volcanologist for the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory. AND I AM BRINGING UP SOME OF THE ATROCITIES OF THE ISLAMIC RELIGION. O! I forgot. You are NOT a Muslim Scholar (Reference Link). Thus, this is a bit unfair. Ain't it? But I ain't gonna let that stop me... It is time the gloves come off and the bug guns deployed...

Below is a small partial listing of crimes and their punishment in Islamic Law, AS WRITTEN IN THE QU'RAN!

Apostasy = death by beheading.
ANY Belief (or Lack) that is NOT Islam = death by stoning, death by beheading, death by burning.
Homosexuality = death by stoning or being thrown from the roof of a tall building/wall.
Being Female = complete, utter, and absolute subsurvience to men.
Being Female and Speaking Without Permission = severe physical beating and molestation, possibly beaten to death.
Being Female and Showing ANY Flesh Besides the Eyes = severe physical beating and molestation, possibly beaten to death.

I could go on, but I am already feeling quite nauseated coming up with those. Besides, the list is as long as Leviticus, some 600+ ... If not longer...

The one thing I TRULY despise about Islamics and Muslim beliefs is your damned bigotry against women. FUCK YOUR ALLAH AND MAY HE BE DAMNED AS HE ALREADY IS! And may your sorry ass piece of shit Muhammed be fucked in his ass by Allah. Now, let's hear those death threats since I besmirched and befouled your Holiest of Holies.

Suris the Skeptic: SHORT shorts are Haram! What's illegal in Islam?

And if you want the Qu'ran scriptures, just look at all the previous posts on this thread and the other one you started: Transgender Delusion.

Or better yet. Why don't you ACTUALLY read the Qu'ran and find them for yourself? I actually have to work. Got a ton of data to analyze and a report to write.

rmfr

P.S. — Now taking bets SfT tells me I ain't worth his time to read my posts anymore. Any takers?

calhais's picture
Your posts are pretty insane-

Your posts are pretty insane--and I mean that descriptively, nor pejoratively. Do note my username before deciding whether to respond.

Cognostic's picture
LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA

LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA ... I can't hear you. Which fallacy is that again? I forgot.

Bill Kilpatrick's picture
"If Islam is so bad, why aren

"If Islam is so bad, why aren’t all these “atrocities” that the lazy, ignorant and arrogant haters here bring up ever brought up by Scientists and scholars in a professional and educated debate against a Muslim scholar?"

Because scientists and scholars tend to deal in facts.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ SfT

@ SfT

"You're not debating, you are not searching, you are looking for confirmation of your sad life choices" How about provide an answer then lets talk?
Tried doing all that. You don't want to talk or look at evidence that contradicts your limited viewpoint.

That is the difference. When incontrovertible evidence is presented to me that contradicts my opinion, I accept it and change. You, on the other hand, argue, prevaricate, obfuscate , deny and eventually refuse to deal with the person presenting it to you.

"" For fucks sake, don't that say it all?....a youtube moslem" Yes, it says you clearly were NOT paying attention and/or simply choosing to answer and reply to something you wish i said instead of what i said.

Nothing more to add, with a bit of effort I could reference your original facile remark about YouTube but the rest of it? But,....... Nah,.... not worth it. You have demonstrated a facility for denial and downright lies at every turn, It is a shame because you clearly have the potential to be a human being in the full sense of the word. Instead you have chosen slavish obedience to a bronze age cult with few, if any, saving graces.

"The thing is, you seem quite bright, with a great sense of humor, just sadly, very fucking stupid." Yep, nothing changed, has it?

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