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The 6000 year "young earth" belief would be hilarious if it was not so frightening that a lot of people did and still believe in it.
This "earth" age is so far off from mountains of evidence saying the earth is billions of years old.
A difference so great, that a comparison would be:
Instead of it taking you a few seconds to read this post, It would take thousands of hours.
The difference is so embarrassingly bad, this simple insight alone should be more than enough to convince anyone in any religion that ever even hinted at a "young earth" at any point in their history should be immediately aware of the embarrassingly huge pile of shit any of those religions are. (Which is 90+% of all religions!)
@Logic
Were you there? Stumped huh???? God made the earth really cool and therefore, to the untrained and godless mind, it may appear to be old. God just made it cool. It's your kinship with Satan that makes you think it is old. All you have to do is read Genesis to know the truth.
I think you need a trip here. https://arkencounter.com/tickets/ If you can't afford the price of the tickets, pray hard and God will provide.
I prayed, nothing yet, what is the turn around time on prayers? Could I do 1 day shipping instead from amazon.com for my prayers?
@LOGIC: I think we are all focusing on the hilarious part right now. If we stopped to think about the seriousness of the problem we might all kill ourselves.
@NewSkeptic
Read this for evidence about dinosaurs.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49651406
@Xeno
Really, do I have to lay it all out for you. Read the title of the thread. Were you there? Were those "scientists" there? I'm assuming No and Double No. Sooooooooo, how do you know then????? Obviously you think listening to Satan is a way to the truth. It's not.
@NewSkeptic
No, none of use were there. But, we do have objective evidence that the dinosaurs died off. Can you prove satan is real, and remember the bible is the claim, not the evidence.
I don't need to read nothing about dinosaurs. Noah had them on the ark. If you want to know facts, turn to the Bible:
In Genesis 6:19–20, the Bible says that two of every sort of land vertebrate (seven of the “clean” animals) were brought by God to the Ark. Therefore, dinosaurs (land vertebrates) were represented on the Ark.
According to Genesis 6:15, the Ark measured 300 x 50 x 30 cubits, which is about 510 x 85 x 51 feet, with a volume of about 2.21 million cubic feet. Researchers have shown that this is the equivalent volume of over 500 semitrailers of space. Without getting into all the math, the 16,000-plus animals would have occupied much less than half the space in the Ark (even allowing them some moving-around space). Plenty of room for baby dinosaurs.
The Bible is reliable in all areas, including its account of the Ark (and the worldwide catastrophic Flood). A Christian doesn’t have to have a blind faith to believe that there really was an Ark. What the Bible says about the Ark can even be measured and tested today.
Dinosaurs walked with man. Fossils prove it.
@cog
Does it say how many floors were on the ark? What about support beams, lifts, and stairs? Where did they keep the fresh water, food for animals and people, and hay for bedding? Where were the animals kept? Kept in pins and cages to keep them separated? Why didn't they freeze being above Mt. Everest? The ark only had one window, did they shovel animal poop out the window? One window to provide all the fresh air for the animals?
@xenoview: come on, you ask such inane questions.. The answer is right in front of your face;
RE: "Why didn't they freeze" "They had one window" Duh! Put all that together with the body heat of the animals and doing hard labor and you have a completely natural source of heat energy.
RE: Fresh Air: Nature abhors a vacuum. Didn't you ever learn that in science class. Out with the poop, in with the fresh air. How much space do you think air needs to flow through a hole?
RE: As high as Mt Everest: You know nothing about physics or geology. As the water level rises so does the atmosphere. It also compresses and becomes oxygen rich. Your silly idea of thin air and coldness because the ark is as high as Everest does not hold water. The air was oxygen rich, the ark was warm and cozy, and the evidence is that you are here today to learn the truth.
@Cog Re: Heating the ark
Fantastic explanation, ol' buddy. Couldn't have done better myself.... *thumbs up*... Although, I hope you don't mind if I point out one crucial little detail you missed in regards to the ark being as high as Mt. Everest. And that detail is with the ark being at such a high altitude, it OBVIOUSLY means it is closer to the sun. Therefore, the occupants of the ark would have been nice and toasty warm. Granted, I realize you are already aware of this fact, and that your oversight was an honest mistake. It is just one of those facts that are so obvious that they are easily missed. Otherwise, your lesson to the rest of these clueless wonders was spot on.
@Tin: Thanks for the support ole buddy, ole pal. Obviously God and Noah knew exactly what they were doing! That's the main point! The doubters have been
OWNED!!!!
@cog
So how did the air circulate with no fans? Where did they keep all the water and food?
Some kinds of animals have long tails. All that wagging circulated the air just fine. The bible doesn't say how all the food and water was stored, so why are you worried about it. Probably God made sure there was plenty of food, kind of a precursor to the "miracle of the five loaves and two fish" in the new testament.
Can't you come up with any difficult questions?
@NewSkeptic
What happened if one of the male animals in the animal pairs dick broke?
Did noah fix it, (did god?) or did that species go extinct because the male broke it's dick? Was it a unicorn this happened to? Mystery solved?
@Logic
"What happened if one of the male animals in the animal pairs dick broke?"
Well, I have to admit I've never considered that!
I can only surmise that this too appears to be foreshadowing of later events and likely tested the idea of immaculate conception. So, it simply didn't matter that those poor males couldn't perform.
The other option is that God gave those males an early version of the purple pill.
Since the bible is silent, either one of these explanations is plausible.
Wait wait.. hold the presses... god .. performed "immaculate conception" on animals too? Were those animals also god's son and/or god lots of religions are vague on this...?
Did I eat the great great (repeat as necessary) grandson of the cow version of jesus last night for dinner? It was a particularly tasty cow... What about the bacon I had for breakfast? The mind boggles, maybe I did eat a distant relative of the body of christ? Would this cow jesus be considered a brother of jesus christ? Should I consider the cow sacrifice itself for our sins?
Ohhh so many questions.
Basically just because the dick was broken, doesn't mean God couldn't still use sperm from the males to impregnate the females, he is God after all. Doesn't have to be exactly like how Mary got knocked up.
This makes the rest of your questions just plain silly, not to mention blasphemous. Repent before it is too late.
@NewSkeptic
Ah HAH!
I got you! You avoided the harder questions! Did I just eat a distant cousin of jesus last night? What about the eggs/bacon I had for breakfast? Yes or no?
I will repent when you explain its okay to eat jesus christ's half brother or distant cousin thingy something or other... Even if immaculate concept was different for differnt animals, and about unicorns! I want answers man!
@Logic,
C'mon Log, you know the first rule of apologetics is avoid the hard questions. I followed the template perfectly, just as Jesus lived.
Only Catholics are allowed to eat Jesus, or his relatives, so the answer to your questions is a mighty NO. (that fits for all questions, unless of course the answer should be yes).
There's your answers you wanted so bad. Now, repent already. You may even need a baptism to wash away your sinful nature.
..and there are no unicorns, why do you belief in such silly supernatural things for which there is no evidence?
All right all right, I repent...
Who do I repent to? Which god? Or should I just repent to them all to cover my bases? Is that allowed?
Can I say:
To any and all possible god ideas + the ones we have not thought of yet, I repent for... I dunno eating your distant cousin, which is especially heinous because I am not even catholic when I ate it!
Is it normal for people to eat distant cousins if they are catholic? I assuming by the way you presented it, its okay?
@LOGIC: RE: "What happened if one of the male animals in the animal pairs dick broke?"
YOU'RE NOT LISTENING, The animals were young. They were not using their dicks. Nothing to break. The Ark was not one giant sex fest. That happened once the animals left the ark. If a dick broke at that point, it broke during procreation. Procreation accomplished!!! And once the dick heals? A bent dick never stopped anyone or anything from having sex.
@Cognostic
Young animals not using their dicks when stuck in a boat in close quarters with their opposite gender?? Must of been some very young animals! What about animals that grow up fast, they were stuck on that boat for a while... Maybe they wanted their privacy?
Well young animals are smaller, hmm... less food to feed them. Less poop maybe... Hmm...
I dunno about you but if my dick broke during procreation, the "procreation" would of stopped at that point for me. These animals are made of sterner stuff than me. I would be in a ball crying in the corner if I broke my dick.
@Xeno Re: "So how did the air circulate with no fans? Where did they keep all the water and food?"
C'mon, dude. Like Skeptic said, you are asking elementary questions that should just be plain ol' common sense. Look at it this way, if God can breathe air into man to bring man to life, do you seriously not think he can do something as simple as keeping air circulating in a stuffy over-crowded one-window boat full of pooping/peeing/farting animals of all shapes and sizes?... *waving hand in dismissal*... Hmph! That's simple child's play for God. As for food for his precious creatures, the Lord kept their bellies full with his Divine Spirit! Grow up and face reality, Xeno. You are embarrassing yourself with these childish questions. We shall be praying for you.
@Xeno,
Oh and another thing Xeno, Mr. "Scientist", this was in the news today:
The expansion rate, called the Hubble constant , is one of the most important numbers in cosmology. A larger Hubble Constant makes for a faster moving — and younger — universe.
The generally accepted age of the universe is 13.7 billion years, based on a Hubble Constant of 70.
Jee’s team came up with a Hubble Constant of 82.4, which would put the age of the universe at around 11.4 billion years.
So in just one day, your so-called scientists decreased the age of the universe 16.8% . I'm not a mathematician, but I'd say that if we give them a week, at that rate, even with a day of rest on the Sabbath, they'll get it right.
@xenoview: Now you are being silly. Fans were not yet invented. The tropical animals were near the top where the sun could warm them and where the hot air was. Penguins and cold climate animals were near the bottom where the icy waters of the ocean cooled the hull. It was a natural air conditioning system designed by God. "Oh ye of little faith!"
WATER: Seriously? It was raining outside, Duh!
FOOD: Two points on food. 1. Most of the animals were young or babies so they did not eat much. 2. God lessened their hunger for the journey. The animals were not active and spent most of their time sleeping. They just didn't eat much. The food was kept in jars. Duh. Where else would you keep food. Haven't you seen pictures of Ken Hamm authentic recreation?
I think I need to come out of character now. I'm feeling really dirty.
However, if I do say so myself, I did the Hamster proud.
@NewSkeptic Re: "I think I need to come out of character now. I'm feeling really dirty."
Oh, good... Phew!... I was starting to feel a bit queasy in the tummy myself.... *wiping sweat from brow*...
I'm with you guys. I can't keep this up forever. I feel my IQ points slip sliding away.
We don't need to "be there". All we need is for the requisite physical processes to leave behind them sufficiently persistent evidence of their occurrence. Which manifestly happens to be the case.
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