Intellectualize the spiritual

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Intellectualize the spiritual

Hello everyone, I would like to thank the people who have been patient with me as I try my best to answer some of the hardest questions I've ever been asked. It's extremely hard to intellectualize spiritual matters. Personally this is completely out of character for me. As when I was agnostic I could care less, and as the case with most believers is, we have found the one answer that works, so we really don't need anymore answers lol. We just go where we are led. Easy as pie. I never came here to preach to anyone or proselytize. Like I've said multiple times, I gain nothing from what anyone believes in or not. But, if God does exist? Then I'm curious to know, by what other means do you think will it have to reach you? Angel's in the presence of God, chose to go and do whatever they wanted. Humans in God's presence, chose to sever the connection and go do whatever they wanted, no matter the consequences. So, for some reason God knows the only way it will work is to not force it's presence on us but rather let us search our hearts for what we really want. Most of us will struggle with the order that God has placed on truth. And I don't have the ability to command God to give you the evidence that you require for belief, (as if sustainable life in an unimaginable universe isn't enough)? But, I will do my best to answer to the best of my humble ability. If anything, I've learned more in just a few posts from you fine people than I ever could from decades of going to a religion. So thank you again for your patience and willingness with me. Remember, if you truly want to know God? All humans can do is point to God, it's up to you to go to make "the jump." I've learned that life isn't in the answers, as much as it is in the quality of the questions. So let's have some fun.

I haven't been able to stop thinking about the summary of it all. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are only two options of possiblity. Either there is a mind behind this creation or there is not. Right? There is nothing else. No middle ground here. So if there is a mind behind this creation? Then it's on the individual to seek and understand it. Not the other way around. Looking outward and at others will never work if the inward connection is not established. Correct?

If there is no mind behind it? Then it's all completely random and this is just what protoplasm does at this temperature. With no mind to observe it. Leading to believe that existence has no purpose. There is no need for this conversation either.

Did I miss anything?

Ps @Sheldon I just found out a week or two ago, that they made a TV show about Sheldon's younger years and I have been watching some of it and it's hilarious. I think of you the whole time lol. Do you watch it? I would literally die if someday we get to hang out and you actually turn out to be Sheldon for real hahaahahahhaha that would be great : )

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