Intellectualize the spiritual

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Tin-Man's picture
@In Spirit Re: "Or am I just

@In Spirit Re: "Or am I just feeling hot air blowing my way?"

...*looking embarrassed*... Oh, uh, sorry. That was me. I farted. My bad. Taco Tuesday today.... *looking nervous*... So, uhhhh, nothing to get to worried about, but, uh, you might want to evac the area or at least postpone any deep breaths for the next few minutes. Come to think of it, a HAZMAT suit might be a good idea. Just figured it was only fair to let you know. Anyway, carry on..... I guess. But, uh, just try to remember the "no breathing" part for a bit. Just sayin'.....

comoke1024's picture
It actually was Taco Tuesday

It actually was Taco Tuesday for me! Co-workers and I went to the best Mexican place in town for lunch. It has a butcher shop attached, so the meat in the tacos is amazing...

In Spirit's picture
@Tin Man

@Tin Man

From the beginning I have enjoyed your sense of humor and looking forward to more

arakish's picture
@ In Spirit

@ In Spirit

You will just have to come here to see the labs and the experiments. Easier to show you than spending many, many pages writing about it. Oh, and I am serious. I will show you the Scientific Method.

rmfr

In Spirit's picture
@ Arakish

@ Arakish

Boring.... You need to elaborate to get me excited about your experiment. I would send you my frog to experiment on but he croaked and fell off your page. Should I still send it by FedEx?

Trying to learn from Tin Man's humor but that's a big challenge. He's really good at it.

arakish's picture
@ In Spirit

@ In Spirit

And you have no humor. No. The only way I can prove your assertions is to have you as the subject of my experiments. If you are too afraid, then quit your trolling.

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
Fluorescent immortal geese

Fluorescent immortal geese can offer you salvation. They are the creators of the human race and they are flying up your butt knocking on your sphincter, to let them in, to anyone who hears, and is willing to open their cheeks.

With as many lives as they alone have changed. It's one of two things. Either it's the biggest rectal infestation with the best results of all time? Or (It's the biggest lie in history) Spaghetti monsters, fairies, 9 foot tall bunnies, Christian Gods, fand Eric the unicorn, are not The Creator Fluorescent immortal Geese and Giver of Life!

Creator Fluorescent immortal Geese are already vastly more than we can ever grasp or begin to understand. How could we ever think that there more? It would be the utterly ridiculous if Geese were not the answer. It would just be a waste.

Imagine if you were born into a shitty placement of slavery, worshiping a stupid Christian god or in the Holocaust with the Christian Nazis wearing "Us With God" tattooed to your forehead, or kid napped as a child and sold to a Christian family only to be beaten by the rod and then taken to the edge of town and stoned to death in your teens because you were worthless. These are the things The Christian God says, but never is it said by Creator Fluorescent immortal Geese.

We have yet to see how these false Christian Gods end up. So no matter what you choose to believe always remember. ONLY THE MOST IGNORANT AMONG US LIVE BY FAITH. NO ONE HAS EVER SHOWN ANY EVIDENCE FOR THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD THAT HAS STOOD AGAINST CRITICAL INQUIRY AND RATIONAL THOUGHT. NO ONE. (Cog's Shovel - When someone floods the forum with inane bullshit, you get our your shovel and give it back to them).

arakish's picture
Besides, those Fluorescent

Besides, those Fluorescent Geese are beautiful when they fly overhead here in New Mexico on their summer-winter transits. Sometimes they even stop for a short time and put on a beautiful flying show.

rmfr

Cognostic's picture
GH is just flinging

GH is just flinging presuppositional bullshit and has no interest at all in a genuine conversation.

Great hope's picture
What genuine conversation

What genuine conversation would you like to have? The instant you hear anything from a theist? All hell breaks loose in your responses. Objective evidence this, objective evidence that. As if time won't tell lol. It's ok if you don't like what God's plan and order are. But dang Cog. What else do you want to talk about? We can talk about this beef short ribs recipe that my friend just sent me. Beef ribs are my favorite.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2292160354156481&id=10450352...

Cognostic's picture
All you post is

All you post is presuppositional nonsense. Assertion after assertion after assertion with nothing supporting your claims. When you get pinned down and can not effectively respond to an inquiry you start bouncing all over the frigging place. Assertions are not evidence. Avoiding the OP certainly does not mean you are gaining ground. Do you even have a single post that addresses the OP?

Sheldon's picture
"All you post is

"All you post is presuppositional nonsense. Assertion after assertion after assertion with nothing supporting your claims. When you get pinned down and can not effectively respond to an inquiry you start bouncing all over the frigging place. Assertions are not evidence."

I'm not at all convinced he doesn't see this to be honest. A lot of his rhetoric is too clearly an act.

Cognostic's picture
Sheldon:

Sheldon:
I've agreed with that from the beginning. He is just sitting back and having a good time egging the atheists on with presuppositional nonsense. I have called him a troll from his very first post.

terraphon's picture
I agree with Sheldon entirely

I agree with Sheldon entirely. I believe GH is doing nothing but mental masturbation and I find his dishonesty and disingenuousness offensive, personally.

Sheldon's picture
So 3 pages of GH making the

So 3 pages of GH making the same unevidenced claims over and over.

No evidence though, and no cogent arguments. Just the same tired circular fallacies and unevidenced claims piled high.

I've not seen many theists so relentlessly expend words, yet say nothing at all.

Cognostic's picture
Sheldon: But that is what

Sheldon: But that is what the Presuppositionalists do. Look at Matt D's debate with Matt Dillahunty VS Sye Ten Bruggencate. Sye does the exact same thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uaSO_xkigs

terraphon's picture
I've seen that debate...The

I've seen that debate...The whole thing was a colossal waste of Dillahunty's time and energy. Sye Ten Bruggencate is a real-life troll.

comoke1024's picture
@Cognostic, I watched the

@Cognostic, I watched the Dillahunty vs. Sye debate: "Is belief in God reasonable?" It was the most unwatchable debate I had ever seen. Sye's strategy seemed to be to day "Yes, belief in God is reasonable" and then spend the rest of his time pulling Matt Dillahunty quotes out of context and try to convince the audience to ignore his opponent. I don't recall him using many arguments at all for his position, he was too busy calling Matt "a brain in a vat."

I much preferred the Matt Slick debate.

Cognostic's picture
Yep. And I loved Matt's

Yep. And I loved Matt's concluding comments. Sye just looked butthurt. The issue with this forum is that GH seems just too ignorant to understand he should be butthurt. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haha

comoke1024's picture
Oh yes, Matt Dillahunty's

Oh yes, Matt Dillahunty's closing was brutal. I loved it.

arakish's picture
And I am the same way. The

And I am the same way. The leader of our debate team has it set so that I am the next to last with him actually closing. He loves it that way because I am a lot like Matt Dillahunty and Christopher Hitchens (whom I emulate most), while our leader is the most eloquent ad libber I have ever seen since the great Robin Williams.

rmfr

Great hope's picture
Well if God does turn out to

Well if God does turn out to be the reality? Then my intentions are correct and not misplaced, as I really do give it my best, to break it down, the way it works, to some who have already made up their minds and have unmet expectations. I make it light hearted and fun as possible because heated arguments are of the highest of irony. I do genuinely wonder how anyone would not use every part of what we've been given, to explore every possibility, before we die? Seeing how there is so much to explore not only outwards, but everything that happens within the internal universe. I mean, we are the height of complexity. So to limit everything you are to left brained logic alone? Seems like a lack of full capabilities. I'm not trying to "mess" with anyone here. If you think about it. No matter what a theist ever says to you. It will always bother you, that is, until your ready. So I'll just sum this thread up by saying we don't know. But time will tell. I'm not saying that in a fearful condescending way. It's actually one of the only evidenced concrete facts that we will definitely observe. And again, from kindness in my tone and serious love from my heart, if you think you have it all figured out and you're not missing anything? Then awesome (thumbs up) way to go. Nothing anyone ever says could bother you and you can die with more peace than anyone, as you fade into "The Great Unknown" God speed my friends. But, going back to the OP, if God does indeed exist? We work with what's already been given, and follow the order it was designed. Literally nothing to lose at the possibilities of gaining everything. Please, for the sake of sharting unicorns, take a breath and let that one sink in. Even just for half of a second. I wish I could do more, and command God to do what you might expect from an all powerful Creator. But shucks, if it's powerful enough to really speak all this into existence and give life? Then I'm almost positive that it has it's reasons for doing it like this, and giving us the choice to love by faith, so that we can truly love in the presence. The greatest of hope to you and your loved ones.

GH

Sheldon's picture
Same old nonsense. You'll

Same old nonsense. You'll never learn I fear.

Anyone else find it a little creepy when theists talk about love to strangers like this?

Cognostic's picture
No one gives a shit about

No one gives a shit about your presuppositional nonsense!

"If" does not a reality make. As long as you are in the world of fantasy.... "IF" your god exists, don't you think he would have given you the capability to reason rationally and honestly?

terraphon's picture
More unformatted, wall of

More unformatted, wall of word-salad nonsense.

Didn't read, won't reply.

Great hope's picture
Side note, maybe y'all have

Side note, maybe y'all have heard of David Wood or seen his videos? He absolutely destroys Islam. So it might be something that interests you? He admittingly has a eccentric mind and has gone to huge extremes in life. Like even smashing his father's head in with a hammer while he was sleeping. So I mean it, this video is a very interesting watch to say the least. And if you can take a break, and find the time to watch this wonderfully put together, and deeply interesting life story? It's starts slow, but if you give it a chance. I guarantee by the end of it, you will be happy that you did. And then you'll want to check out his other videos on him destroying Islam with there own book. They are much shorter than his story video. Sheldon loves irony and this guy is supreme at it.

https://youtu.be/DakEcY7Z5GU

Sheldon's picture
Islam is unevidenced

Islam is unevidenced superstition, like all religions, including christianity, and o they don't need "destroying". Sadly this is a concept no amount of explaining will help you fathom.

"Sheldon loves irony "

Indeed, and it doesn't get much more ironic than you claiming another superstition has been destroyed, after asserting repeatedly your own is based on naught but blind faith.

Great hope's picture
@Sheldon

@Sheldon

His story is different from his Islam vidoes and it's a good watch and entertaining. You've wasted more time asking for "objective evidence". So maybe this might be a nice break for you? It really is worth a watch.

Cognostic's picture
GH. If you had a position

GH. If you had a position worth considering, the people around here would have considered it. You have nothing but inane assertions. It's really getting old.

Cognostic's picture
GH. If you had a position

GH. If you had a position worth considering, the people around here would have considered it. You have nothing but inane assertions. It's really getting old.

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