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And I have been there. Wouldn't mind retiring there either. But kind of have me sights set on Australia or New Zealand. Even thought of Paraguay. Loved that place too. Ecuador is also nice.
That's all I can think of where I have been.
rmfr
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I just caught up reading the sixty or so latest posts in this string. I’ll never get that ten minutes back...sigh.
Did I mention there’s an OverLord and a Powerful Force of Evil embodying your every thought and emotion?
@Rat Spit Re: "Did I mention there’s an OverLord and a Powerful Force of Evil embodying your every thought and emotion?"
Hell, I've known that for most of my life. lol
Yea, you mentioned it. We were just ignoring you.
@rat spit
Can you prove your overlord is real, what objective evidence do you have?
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"Did I mention there’s an OverLord and a Powerful Force of Evil embodying your every thought and emotion?"
No there isn't - Hitchens's razor applied.
Do you, perhaps at work, have a supervisor - someone you talk to; someone who talks to you back; someone you exchange words with until you’re tired of his or her company?
That is what it is like. And I assume you do not hear the same Entity - so, I ask you about all the girls in high school who ignored you? Did they not exist, merely because they did not speak to you?
Joan of Ark; Jesus; the Buddha - these are all historical figures who admitted to being in touch with a higher power. Reputable sources - along with a study done by the Danish who report that 4% of the population admit to hearing an independent voice (contrary to the mere 1% who are diagnosed with “schizophrenia”)
Joan of Arc's statements about her supernatural beliefs; are only a reputable source about what she believed. It is not a reputable source for the claim that her beliefs *reflected reality.
*reflected might not be the best word to use here, but I can't think of something better.Since it seems you addressed this to all...
Honestly, of course. Tire of his/her company? Never. Funny, I have a dual supervisor; one male, one female. Like me they are highly intelligent and highly educated. Fabulous persons to talk with. However, I can speak with anybody, regardless of their education and/or intelligence level. It all depends upon what is in the heart. The soul if you wish to call it that. If you wish to discuss religion, then it can get belligerent. Not only am I an atheist. I am also an anti-theist and an anti-religionist. If you want to make fun of religion, aw Hell, we'll have a ball. But if you want to say why your religion is the one and only truth, well...
Don't know. I never paid much attention to too many girls. I already had it in my mind that I was going to join the military as soon as I got out of high school. Thus, I almost never dated in high school. I did not want to be involved in a long distance relationship, nor be involved with a girl in high school only to tell her, "Fuck you. I'm joining the military." I did date one girl, but told her right up front what I was about. She understood but still wanted to date. We did until about a month before I left for the USNavy.
Basically, I don't know about how many girls ignored me in high school. In fact, it always seemed they were always interested in me. Hell, back when I was in high school, I was an exceptionally, almost unheard of, species of human: I was a geek and a jock. I played baseball, basketball, soccer, tennis, and track and field. Even lettered (starred) in four of those sports.
As for voices, I hear them all the time. I am always talking to myself. I also answer myself and that is the difference between insanity and sanity. Ain't you never heard of the "Three of Me" concept? Me, Myself, and I?
Then there are the other voices... (see this image)
rmfr
You're either barking mad, or have no critical thinking abilities whatsoever. Or both of course.
" 4% of the population admit to hearing an independent voice "
Independent of what? How as that evidenced exactly?
Or I am part of the 4% of the population who admit to having an alter ego in their thoughts who is sometimes nefarious and at other times benign and at other times altogether absent.
Independent of your “self”. Ie. what you know to be your “self”. How was it evidenced? The participants in the study admitted to hearing a voice that was independent of their self. When asked why they did not seek medical attention for the condition, many would reply that the voice was in fact not a burden but a boon. I can find the study and link it for you if that’s what you require to believe this is actually a phenomenon?
"Or I am part of the 4% of the population who admit to having an alter ego in their thoughts who is sometimes nefarious and at other times benign and at other times altogether absent."
Why do you keep saying that as if 4% is any more significant than 1% or 99%? It's called argumentum ad populum fallacy, a bare appeal to numbers.
"The participants in the study admitted to hearing a voice that was independent of their self."
Again this is nothing more than an unevidenced anecdotal claim.
" When asked why they did not seek medical attention for the condition, many would reply that the voice was in fact not a burden but a boon."
So they're delusional, but because they like the delusion prefer to think of themselves as special, sounds atypical of religious beliefs to me.
"I can find the study and link it for you if that’s what you require to believe this is actually a phenomenon?"
Where have I claimed delusional religious beliefs are not a natural phenomena? In fact this rather undercuts your unevidenced claim this has a supernatural cause. That's the part of your claim you have failed to evidence and that I therefore don't believe.
It’s a fucking statistic gathered in a scientific study. Was it gathered by sampling the population? Fuck yeah it was. How else do you want them to do it? What’s the difference between 1% and 4%? No fallacy here compadre. It’s a statistic. Do you know what a statistic is?
@ rat spit
And the Margin Of Error was? If the MOE was ±3%, then the 1% can range from 0% to 4%; and the 4% can range from 1% to 7%. What was the sample size? Anything below 50,000 and spread across the ENTIRE AREA of the sampling is not even to even qualify as a scientific study. There are minimums that must adhered to. Here in the US, the minimum is 300,000 due to the population. What I learned in one class, and cannot remember the name, but it had something to do with statistics and whatever the fuck it is you do with them. When I took that class, that 300,000 represented 1% of the population of whole US. Then you have to divide that 300,000 amongst all 50 states to get a proper statistical sampling. Did the scientists do the same in the study you are referencing? If not, than the numbers you giving us are bogus. Complete bullshit. Worthless data except for the Religious Absolutist Apologists.
So... I a now ask, please provide a link to the study you are referring. Please.
rmfr
DSM-IV: Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality)
The DSM-5 provides the following criteria to diagnose dissociative identity disorder:
Two or more distinct identities or personality states are present, each with its own relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self.
Amnesia must occur, defined as gaps in the recall of everyday events, important personal information, and/or traumatic events.
The person must be distressed by the disorder or have trouble functioning in one or more major life areas because of the disorder.
The disturbance is not part of normal cultural or religious practices.
The symptoms can not be due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (such as blackouts or chaotic behavior during alcohol intoxication) or a general medical condition (such as complex partial seizures).
IF YOU ARE HEARING VOICES, GET BACK ON YOUR MEDS.
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The disorder you bring up is actually much less common than schizophrenia- although confusion arises between the two. Having full blown split personality disorder implies that one or more “agents” of the mind take control of it from time to time. The original “owner” of the mind falls into the background and even loses time when these other personalities take control. It’s a rare condition.
Schizophrenia is different. It’s there in the DSM. I can’t recall all the conditions one must fulfill to earn the rank of bat shit crazy.
rat spit: "I can’t recall all the conditions one must fulfill to earn the rank of bat shit crazy."
Like me when I finally awoke from one of my sessions with a Night Terror. I'd awaken in a dissociative schizophrenic delusion. Awake but still living the nightmare. The horror, the terrorism. Basically, I would not know where I was since I was still within the Night Terror, but wide awake. Thankfully, I ain't had one in five years.
rmfr
WOW ARE YOU DENSE: "Having full blown split personality disorder implies that one or more “agents” of the mind take control of it from time to time."
NOTHING TO DO WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA - "Or I am part of the 4% of the population who admit to having an ALTER EGO in their thoughts WHO IS SOMETIMES NEFARIOUS AND AT OTHER TIMES BENIGN and AT OTHER TIMES ALL TOGETHER ABSENT. (nothing here describes schizophrenia.)
DSM-IV: Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality)
The DSM-5 provides the following criteria to diagnose dissociative identity disorder:
Two or more distinct identities or personality states are present, each with its own relatively enduring pattern of perceiving, relating to, and thinking about the environment and self.
WHAT IN THE HELL ARE YOU NOT GETTING?
There is a reason your mother named you Rat Spit!
Well. If you would like to support the psychologist’s view of the world, you’re more than welcome. You’ll have as much difficulty explaining how personalities arise in ones mind - with their own intelligence (usually far greater than the hosts’) - along with other hurdles that support the scientific idea that it is all in ones head.
The personalities transmit information not available to the host - and I could go on. But my “proof” of these entities is simply that they speak to us - 4% of the population admitting so in a study done a while back by the danish.
@ rat spit
So what you are trying to say is that I have a personality far more intelligent than "I" am and it is transmitting information to "me."
Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
rmfr
Ok. That doesn’t suit your fancy. Tell me this... do you ever have intrusive thoughts such as “I hate my life” or “I want to die” or “I can’t go on anymore.”?
@ rat spit
Of course I do. Study up on PTSD. I suffer with it every day of my life. And yes, there are the intrusive thoughts. What helps me most is writing those thoughts into encrypted ODT files. It allows me to get them out instead of staying inside and bouncing around.
If you suffer such without having suffered a tremendously traumatic event, such as having your wife and twin daughters murdered, then it sounds like schizophrenia. Perhaps you should seek psychiatric help.
rmfr
I’ve had deep depression with panic attacks bordering on the psychotic - and I’ve sought help for that in my twenties.
I think these thoughts as well. My method of relieving them (so I can at least sleep at night) is to cut them off at their source.
You mention that you can talk to your supervisors as long as you like based on what’s in your heart.
Indeed, the heart is the entire crux of the Evil One’s deeds. Those who know this can go through life as quiet as a mouse.
rat spit: "Indeed, the heart is the entire crux of the Evil One’s deeds. Those who know this can go through life as quiet as a mouse."
I can understand this from a fantastical POV. However, I view this assumption of yours from a different POV.
What is in a person's heart (soul if you wish to be religious retard) is what makes them truly beautiful or ugly. A person can be the most beautiful person in the entire Earth. Yet, if their heart is evil, then they become the ugliest person. Vice Versa is also true.
Can you understand this?
There is no evidence of the Good One or the Evil One or the Overlord. If so, then provide that evidence. Otherwise, summarily dismissed utilizing Hitchens' Razor.
Hitchens' Razor is an epistemological razor asserting that the burden of proof regarding the truthfulness of a claim lies with the one who makes the claim, and if this burden is not met, the claim is unfounded, and its opponents need not argue further in order to dismiss it (Wikipedia).
This psychosis of yours about an overlord and evil one is something you should be telling to a psychiatrist and/or psychiatric therapist.
Did I not tell you I have returned to seeing a psychiatric therapist? Depression has built up in me I need the extra help. And it can just remain nothing more than therapy sessions, but may also include medications. I shall be the first to admit that I am not afraid to admit that sometimes I need to seek the help. And in my book, to admit such is a strength of character, not a weakness.
Think on it this way: It takes a "strong" character to be able to realize that you need help, whereas a "weak" character is going to lie to himself.
rmfr
I’ve done everything I need to in order to come to terms with my “condition” for 18 odd years. I live a very full life.
The burden of proof. I’ve told you already. Do you talk to people? Do they talk to you? Do you take that to signify they exist? Do you doubt their existence on the grounds of solipsism? It’s no different with the Evil One. You ask Him a question and he replies. Ie. I HEAR him. It’s a proof by appeal to the senses.
"do you ever have intrusive thoughts such as “I hate my life” or “I want to die” or “I can’t go on anymore.”?"
When I read religious apologetics mainly.
This is an argument from ignorance fallacy.
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