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@In Spirit
Not BS, just an observation based on your actions. You make a claim, it is challenged, then you begin to waffle on what constitutes proof,and that if proof is to be provided, at a later date.
If one is confident on their claim, the second a challenge is issued, the immediate response is to offer proof.
@David Killens
@Old man shouts
DK…..First of all show me a little more honesty and respond to my question properly.
"......then you begin to waffle on what constitutes proof…."
1) DK….Show me in this thread where I question what constitutes proof as opposed to what I said…..”…how to obtain it”
2) Follow the thread and see who brought it all back up. I simply asked Talyyn a question and then Old man shouts steered it in a new direction. You want a debate? Have it with him. As he has displayed, I’m sure his psychic abilities will know exactly how to respond on my behalf.
3) I made it clear I have nothing to prove and nothing to preach on this topic to atheists
4) I have a mentor on this site I truly respect and will not dishonor that person nor atheists in general
5) I am neither a fortune teller nor a psychic as is displayed by the psychics. I do not read love lives, finances or all that meaningless crap
6) Neither you nor Old man shouts has heard my rebuttal and yet you have both defined it for me. Are you both implying to have psychic powers? No thanks, I don’t engage in this type of dance.
7) Any further debates I post on this topic will not be on the atheist forum
8) CASE CLOSED….In all due respect.
@in Spirit
Yadda yadda yadda. It has been a few days since you claimed being a psychic, and have been challenged. So far all you have done is throw up a smoke screen.
You have had enough time to prove your claim. Thus by default, it is a BS claim and false.
@David Killens
You win.......... game over.
@In Spirit
It is not about winning or losing, it is about you backing up your claim. As I stated earlier, you have an exit strategy, and it is to play the victim and imply that the conditions for providing any form of proof is too stringent and difficult.
If you were a psychic you would have seen this coming and never stated you were a psychic.
@David Killens
If you only want your questions to be answered or only wish to debate the topic you choose, start your own OP and stop trolling and shading.
@David Killens: Oh hell David. Open your own thread and just call it "asking for evidence." This damn thread doesn't need any. Besides, we are all on drugs and you are ruining our buzz. Evidence.... Ha! What the fuck is that? It's all subjective anyway. Why are you so mean to the scientifically challenged? They have neither the time or the energy to support all their inane assertions with empirical facts and objective evidence. It just takes too long.
@ In Spirit
You made claims to being a psychic/fortune teller and claimed to have helped many people with your "talent". I can always go back and list them for you....
Now you are backing off at 100 miles an hour in your Acme "I don't need to prove anything boots"
LOL...if I hadn't had this happen to me by so many other charlatans it would be still unconvincing.
You can make a rebuttal, happy to see it...but unless you undertake a test under lab conditions, it's all smoke and trickery.
@Old man shouts
You're not interested in a real rebuttal.
Stop trolling and shading. Game over.
@ In Spirit
Don't try that tack.
If you cant or wont prove your claims then we know you are a liar and charlatan. Smoke and mirrors like all the rest of your ilk.
Now THAT is game over.
@Old man shouts
My apologies for saying I am not a fortune teller. According to the meaning, you are correct that I made those claims in the past, I was referring to fortune teller as it is understood by the gullible who seek knowledge on material wealth.
Can you admit that the science used to test psychics has evolved over time? The OP I was intending to do was exactly on that and how it still needs tweaking. Unfortunately you burned the bridge to what could have been an interesting OP based on the science and not on what constitutes proof. You are only interested in having a debate on proof. If so, start your own OP.
@ In Spirit
Yes you did. Now you are wriggling and denying and oh...of course ...playing the "definition card"...LOL...charlatan and liar card 101.
You are done like a barbecue.
If you got evidence...show it.
Sussed you first post liar........
@Old man shouts
Typical Old man trolls response.
Hmm..., I admit my error, explain why and you say that I deny. You may not like my answer but it can't get more honest than that.
For the record and I'm sure you have heard me say this before. I HAVE NO EVIDENCE !! Why are you expecting a different answer? I don't need to convince you of anything you do not wish to believe yet you keep asking for proof and completely slide by my remarks about scientific testing and it's evolution and any questions I pose. STOP TROLLING !!
You have serious problems. Bark up some other tree.
@ In Spirit
No matter how much verbiage you use to twist and turn from your claims they remain. In black and white.
Are you now saying clearly and unequivocally that you have no psychic powers? (that includes fortune telling and "helping" other people with your "powers")
Say it clearly, no hedging or holdbacks. something along the lines of "I have no psychic or special powers of any kind. I cannot foresee events in the future. I was lying."
Seen this squirming behaviour multiple times from charlatans who try and wriggle from the burden of proof and will not subject themselves to examination.Then try and place the blame for failure of communication on the one disputing their spurious claims.
if you got the 'powers" show the world. If not...then you are not a person to be trusted. The forums are watching.
Like others here I don't lend any
credence to such bizarre claims, they're pure hokum.
As with all claims I'll accept their validity only when sufficient objective evidence is demonstrated to support them. There are many things I dislike about such claims, as others have mentioned they prey on the vulnerable, the stupid, the ignorant and the gullible. I also hate the fact that people can make such claims with impunity, but if you disbelieve them out loud for sound rational reasons you're immediate labelled arrogant, rude and closed minded. As if blindly accepted anecdotal claims for supernatural powers somehow represents an open mind.
I'm reminded of another forum where someone's patience ran out and said "his mind is so open, you can feel the draft from here."
This phrase make me boils every time i hear it:
@Talyyn
You won't hear that from me. I have never found you to be out of order.
@In Spirit
I never said that for you, don't worry. I was just saying that this phrase is thrown at us a lot.
@Talyyn
Oh I know. That was totally clear to me and understood why you said that. No worries. I should have been more clear as to why I responded to it.
@Sheldon
Don't be surprised if I agree with every single word you have said. Unfortunately Old man shouts and David Killens have no interest in discussing the tweaks that scientific testing needs and until anyone hears my research on that, any words put in my mouth are mere speculation or based on predictions of what I would say. That is one reason I do not wish to engage in their choice of topic. Trolling is not what I want to engage in.
I urge you not to believe in psychics for the very reasons you have mentioned. I do not consider you arrogant, rude or close minded for not believing.
@ In Spirit
Here's your opportunity.
Get to it.
Stop whining and playing the victim card. Put up or shut up.
You made a claim, then you say you have no evidence and will not undertake testing.
You want to discuss this off forum...why?
I was happy to get a PM from you but you backed away.
Then you tell us the tests need "tweaking" (presumably to mask your probable failure)
Then you play the victim card.
Do you think that we are naive? That we haven't seen this tiresome mendacity from charlatans before? It's a game plan that has become threadbare from overuse by the talentless and mendacious.
If you don't like being called out as a liar and charlatan don't bring such transparently risible claims to the forums unless you have clear evidence to support your assertions.
I would have thought you would have seen that coming.
@Old man shouts
Stop whining and get you lazy fingers moving and start the OP you so much desire.
@Talyyn: You are such a closed minded AHole for pointing out the obvious. There you go destroying people's worlds without an ounce of empathy for their delusions. Shame on you!!!
@Cognostic
My Evilness has been discovered, oops!
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