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So no theist is able to demonstrate any objective evidence that objective morals exist. They can't even offer one example.
You have to see the irony after weeks woo woo claims and assertions.
@ AJ777
Well, Sheldon, beat me to the responses I was going to give. But I shall repeat them.
100% Objectivity does NOT exist. It cannot exist. Even your deity is subjective with the morals and truths it forces onto people. And whenever your deity decides it morals and truths interfere with its subjectively screwed-up plan, it breaks those morals and truths at a whim. If your deity's morals and truths are objective, then why do those morals and truths not apply to your deity?
rmfr
Just thought of something while trying to find HARD, EMPIRICAL, OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE that morality is objective. I decided to consult the scientific method, since that is how you provide the evidence at which you seek, right?? Consider these definitions.
sci·en·tif·ic meth·od
noun
a method of procedure that has characterized natural science since the 17th century, consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.
So the scientific method is used in natural science? What is natural science you ask?? Let's consult the dictionary once more.
nat·u·ral sci·ence
noun
plural noun: natural sciences
a branch of science which deals with the physical world, e.g. physics, chemistry, geology, biology.
the branch of knowledge which deals with the study of the physical world.
Key words here. Physical world. (stated twice, in fact!)
Now, would you say morality is a physical object? I wouldn't. Therefore, how can we use the scientific method to perform experiments to prove anything about morality?
It almost sounds as if you're gloating at your failure?
How odd...
Ha! How odd...sounds like you admit I am correct.
Are we speaking the same language? You were gloating to atheists that you can't demonstrate evidence for your beliefs, which is bizarre enough, but why the fuck would an atheist disagree with you?
You're strange...and yes of course science can't evidence any deity, or anything supernatural, non-existent things are obviously impossible to evidence, though why you're gloating about this to atheists as if they don't know already is truly baffling.
Ha I see your point. But I feel like you are missing mine, or ignoring it. Saying you can't provide physical evidence of a supernatural phenomenon does not force the conclusion that it therefore doesn't exist.
Anddd Idk, this forum has me twisting all over the place. I feel I am no longer even trying to demonstrate to you that God exists, I am merely just addressing logical flaw in your arguments where I can. That seems to be the game, no?
"Saying you can't provide physical evidence of a supernatural phenomenon does not force the conclusion that it therefore doesn't exist."
I never made that claim, I was pointing out how bizarre your post was as if you were gloating that science couldn't possibly evidence your belief, I am pretty confident atheists know this already.
" I feel I am no longer even trying to demonstrate to you that God exists, I am merely just addressing logical flaw in your arguments where I can. "
I haven't seen you demonstrate anything that suggests any deity exists, and I have posted no logical flaws that I am aware of, and spotting flaws in informal logic is a bit of a pet hobby of mine, so you better evidence that claim or I am going to be fairly blunt in my response.
"That seems to be the game, no?"
No, this isn't a game, rational argument adhere to strict principles of validation, as does the scientific method. That's why things validated by those methods are exponentially more likely to be true, so either you care that what you believe is true or you prefer the to believe what makes you feel good, for me it's the former.
Now can you list the logical flaws you claim I have used please?
Its your claim, so its for you to evidence it.
Can you or can't you?
Thu, 01/24/2019 - 07:53
Sheldon
"Its your claim, so its for you to evidence it.
Can you or can't you?"
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I note you paused long enough to hit the disagree button then tucked tail and ran from this. Funny as fuck...
Ha, It wasn't me. I guess one of your comrades has betrayed you.
I will disagree now : )
For once I'll believe you. Plenty of theists breeze through here and leave holding a grudge at the lack of reverence shown to their beliefs. I'd like to say I sympathise, but I mean look where they have come to voice them, I will never understand what they expect from atheists.
You're someone who thinks that morality is objective, not me.
Morality is subjective, it comes from the mind. If it was objective, then everyone would know it. No god would be required.
Sheldon bro just stop like you have the dude as your avatar so you want people to think you’re as competent as him. Which you probably are considering he is an ACTOR.
Foe45: “Sheldon bro just stop like you have the dude as your avatar so you want people to think you’re as competent as him. Which you probably are considering he is an ACTOR.”
And your avatar?
rmfr
A grinning bell end. Apropos, wouldn't you say?
Can someone translate this for me please? It appears to be a fairly vapid weak ad hominem, I feel like I was just slapped by a very small child.
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While you're here, is there any context where it is moral for 50+ year old man to rape a nine year old child?
You left without answering....
Oh, and in adding, don't forget all of the questions Sheldon has asked and you refuse to answer.
All you ever do is dodge these question because of two reasons:
So much for "searching for truth" when you are too afraid of it.
rmfr
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