SFT

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CyberLN's picture
The odds, after all, were in

The odds, after all, were in your favor. ;)

Searching for truth's picture
Should have made it a $100

Should have made it a $100 based off my history. Missed opportunity there bro

David Killens's picture
nah, he just went for five

nah, he just went for five bucks on day one. But one day three he did a "double or nothing" bet.

Sheldon's picture
No one is waiting for you to

No one is waiting for you to answer, it is obvious you have no intention of giving honest answers. It is also obvious you don't see what that implies about your beliefs, and since they're your beliefs then of course no one can know what they are. Especially since you already claimed repeatedly that they involve subjective interpretation of archaic religious texts.

It's always struck me as risible and contemptible that theists will ignore what their religious texts actually say, and "interpret" them to mean what they want them to say, but still cling to and espouse the worst bigotry contained in them word for fucking word.

xenoview's picture
@SFT

@SFT
I think you are a coward, you are to scared to answer Sheldon's questions.

Talyyn's picture
Then please answer instead of

Then please answer instead of being smug. There are a few questions that Sheldon keep asking you since a lot of precedent threads.

Sapporo's picture
@Searching for truth

@Searching for truth
If a lion does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep, what do you think of Muhammad, who according to Muslim history, killed people whose opinions he disliked?

If a lion does not concern itself with the opinion of sheep, what do you think of Allah, who according to Muslim dogma, tortures people in this life and the hereafter whose opinion it dislikes?

Sapporo's picture
Searching for truth: "Death

Searching for truth: "Death and eternal torment."

Why does that seem to bother you? It's not like you beleive it. Do you?

It is of concern when hundreds of millions believe it is acceptable to kill and torture others for their beliefs.

Searching for truth:"What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?"

What evidence you got that it doesn't? Oh, and I have all the eveidence I need. I've tried finding common ground her before and that did not work out. However, the 4 people I have been privately messaging have all seemed to find some common ground. While I won't go through the waste of time and effort to try that again. You are more than welcome to provide evidence Allah (specifically) does not exist.

An omnipotent and omnipresent being has not been observed to exist in even a single location. Therefore, Allah does not exist.

edit: grammar

Diotrephes's picture
Sapporo,

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Diotrephes's picture
Sheldon,

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Sheldon's picture
"The Bible approves of baby

"The Bible approves of baby rapers."

Careful, Breezy will be along talking context if you keep this up.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Sheldon

@ Sheldon

No no, its a metaphor for, for...ummm NO..its an allegory for god's infinite mercy ...

Talyyn's picture
How many of the stuff of the

How many of the stuff of the book of Revelation is metaphoric? I think, for some, that is is a cheap excuse to not confess that they really want to see billions of people suffering an dbeing thrown in a lake of fire...

Sheldon's picture
You're undoubtedly right,

You're undoubtedly right, after all religions seem to have and have always had a dread fascination with immolating anyone that disagreed with their beliefs.

Talyyn's picture
You're sure about that, i

You're sure about that, i mean they are the ones possesing OBJECTIVE MORALITY...

CyberLN's picture
Every time I’ve glanced at

Every time I’ve glanced at the title of this OP, I see STFU instead of SFT.

Sheldon's picture
It might as well say STFU for

It might as well say STFU for all the value he's added to it. If he's really flattered by this thread then that's doubly sad.

I invite him to offer something tangible though. However I hold little hope he will start giving candid answers to difficult questions now, as that's clearly not why he's here.

So either his religion has no answers to such questions, or he's a very ill-informed adherent.

Or both of course.

SFT, is it ever moral for a 50+ year old man to rape a nine year old child?

If the Koran is so inerrant why do Muslims expend so much time and energy trying to silence and even kill critics of it?

arakish's picture
Fri, 10/19/2018 - 10:17

Fri, 10/19/2018 - 10:17
Searching for truth

It's amazing seeing all you "scholars" here yet, everyone is waiting for me to answer. Ironic.

Because we want to hear what you have to say about the completely legitimate questions asked of you about your pathetic Book of Lies.

Answer the questions of the OP:

  1. If your magic book is inerrant, why is so much effort invested to silence or kill its critics?
  2. Is it ever moral for 50+ year old man to have sex with a nine year old child?
  3. What is the penalty for apostasy in Islam?
  4. What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?

And of course, you already know the answers. You are nothing more that a Yellow-Bellied, Spineless COWARD.

From this post.

"What evidence can you demonstrate to support your belief that a deity exists?"

What evidence you got that it doesn't? Oh, and I have all the eveidence I need. I've tried finding common ground her before and that did not work out. However, the 4 people I have been privately messaging have all seemed to find some common ground. While I won't go through the waste of time and effort to try that again. You are more than welcome to provide evidence Allah (specifically) does not exist.

Oh, and I have all the eveidence I need.

Then please provide it. Remember, if your evidence cannot be verified or falsified, then it is not evidence.

You are more than welcome to provide evidence Allah (specifically) does not exist.

Typical Religious Absolutist response. You cannot provide any evidence, thus you switch the burden of proof. Onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit non ei qui negat.

I want to see your evidence. Put up or shut the hell up about having evidence.

And learn how to spell.

rmfr

Sheldon's picture
Eloquently put, and of course

Eloquently put, and of course all very true.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Arakish

@ Arakish

Aaaand a big welcome back Arakish. Missed your bark.......

arakish's picture
Old Man: Missed your bark....

Old Man: Missed your bark.......

And wait until I start shedding it....

rmfr

Sheldon's picture
Welcome back arakish.

Welcome back arakish.

arakish's picture
Thanks brother. Good to be

Thanks brother. Good to be back. Just don't know how long. Read the "What Happened to Arakish? Y'all have asked" over in the Atheist Hub.

rmfr

Sheldon's picture
So much for SFT's objective

So much for SFT's objective morality if he thinks it is ok for a man in his 50's to rape nine year old children. Or does he think it's not moral?

He appears too scared to answer either way. If he's a lion it's the cowardly one from The Wizard of Oz. Though it appears he lacks the moral fibre to tackle his cowardice.

Then again many Christian priests share that view that raping children perfectly moral. So maybe raping children is an example of the objective morality he claims can come only from superstition?

His deity, if it were real, would be standing by and letting children be raped after all.

Diotrephes's picture
Sheldon,

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Sheldon's picture
This is the problem in a

This is the problem in a nutshell. SFT is running away from the question because either his objective morality thinks it's ok to rape nine year old children, or his most venerated prophet didn't grasp raping nine year old children was immoral. Or of course his prophet new it was immoral and did it anyway. Best of all his deity didn't even punish him.

He has tried in the past to hide behind context of what was moral in that epoch, then got torn a new one over his contradictory claim that his religious beliefs are based on objective morality. It seems even he could see that "right then, but wrong now" didn't support his specious claim.

Since then the cowardly lion has run away without even trying to answer, which as always speaks volumes.

Chicken's picture
I dunno guys, Muhammad was

I dunno guys, Muhammad was just misunderstood....you see the 9 year old wanted him to rape her! It all makes sense when you know the rape was consensual.

Sheldon's picture
I realise you're being

I realise you're being facetious, but I have actually encountered theists who have used that very argument. I generally ask if they think this makes it morally acceptable, if they would rape a nine year old child if they thought it had consented.

You can see where this would go, either yes and the claim for ANY morality evaporates, or no and their claim for objective morality seems to involve venerating a prophet who raped nine year old children.

Usually by now I'm being called Islamophobic, another line of evasive ad hominem often used. SFT has taken a similar tack and refused to answer any of my posts directly. It's an odd truth that has to silence any individual. I suppose I should be lucky I live in a country where the rights of the individual are held more important than the religious bellies of others, it wasn't always the case, and ironically the UK has a state religion.

Chicken's picture
Ha, it was a joke in poor

Ha, it was a joke in poor taste anyway. If we take anything from the Quran, I believe it is that times have changed very much from the past, and things that may have been okay back then have no place in civilized society today. I personally do not condemn Muhammed, per se, I just absolutely refuse to promote him as a good role model among other things. People can do great things, and terrible things in their lifetime, and no matter how good of a person you are, one or two terrible things can completely derail your reputation. Not that Muhammed is anything like Jesus purports to be, anyway. Maybe we should post some nice cartoons of Muhammed, see how long it takes to get death threats?

Diotrephes's picture
Sheldon,

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