This Site Is Called Atheist Republic So Why Do Christians Come Here?

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Bright Raven's picture
@Cognostic

@Cognostic

You are either 12 years old or an adult with a juvenile mind. Your posts say more about you than they do about anyone else.

You spew rhetoric and engage in demagoguery. You don't know what that means so here is the definition:

"practices that seek support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument."

You cannot stand on your own two feet. I see a coward when I read your posts. Someone who incites others for support. You cannot compose anything rational so you demagogue to appeal to a "fanclub". You are pitiful.

Cognostic's picture
@Black Raven: More

@Black Raven: More hypocritical bullshit from the raven calling the cow black. You go girl! Just keep demonstrating your ability to be a hypocrite. TROLL!

Bright Raven's picture
@Cognostic

@Cognostic

When I read your posts it reminds me of cleaning out an old fashion shithouse.

Tin-Man's picture
@BR Re: To Cog - "When I

@BR Re: To Cog - "When I read your posts it reminds me of cleaning out an old fashion shithouse."

...*face palm*... Damn, cowboy, ain't you learnt nuthin' YET? Geeez... Once again, you are waaaay off the mark.... *shaking head in frustration*... Look, I know you are trying to be all polite and proper and nice, but - really - you are giving Cog WAY too much credit. Which makes me start to wonder why you are trying so hard to kiss up to him so much. It baffles me... *shaking head in confusion*... Anyway, that's your business, and I probably don't even want to know... *shudder*... Regardless, comparing Cog to an overflowing shithouse is along the same lines as comparing that same shithouse (Cog) to a perfume factory. They are simply not anywhere near the same ballpark, much less IN the same ballpark. Hell, Cog would make an overflowing shithouse seem like a pleasant aroma therapy booth. Wow! No offense, BR, but you really do suck at judging people.

Bright Raven's picture
@Tin-Man

@Tin-Man

I am trying to be charitable. I just hate it when cowards start whining.

Tin-Man's picture
@BR Re: "I am trying to be

@BR Re: "I am trying to be charitable. I just hate it when cowards start whining."

Yeah, I know what you mean. Probably about the same way I feel when inexperienced newcomers start defending obvious trolls and referring to them as "heros" and "lone warriors".

Tin-Man's picture
@BR Re: "Sadly, he (Cog)

@BR Re: "Sadly, he (Cog) defines himself as juvenile and immature."

Hey!.... *arm extended with palm forward in stop gesture*... Whoa-whoa-whoa! What the hell, dude?!? You can't be saying that about Cog! When you first joined here you said it was ME who was being juvenile and immature!... *indignant look*.... SO MAKE UP YOUR DAMN MIND ALREADY! Because, obviously, there can't be two of us like that around here. It would totally upset the delicate balance of the forum. Besides, I worked my ASS off to gain my immature status around here, and I'm not gonna stand by idle and allow that poo-flinging varmint to steal my position. Now, in all fairness, I will concede that Cog is definitely fit for the Deranged Psycho position. No doubt about that, and I am sure others here will agree. But DO NOT encourage him to think he can muscle in on MY territory!... *arms folded across chest*...

Oh, and another thing... I am prettier than Cog and my personal hygiene habits are MUCH better than his. So THERE!... *sticking out tongue*...

Cognostic's picture
@TIn! "Steal your position."

@TIn! "Steal your position." What the fuck! Them's fighting words Mr. Tin. If I wasn't such a coward and had a strong willed woman supporting me, I would give you a tongue lashing that would make Old Man cringe. Have you ever done anything as Juvenile as flinging poo at cows? NO! Okay, that may fit the deranged category as well but its still Juvenile. Juvenile I tell you. Juvenile! I'm going to my room (DOOR SLAMS)

NewSkeptic's picture
@Cog/Tin

@Cog/Tin

Hey, wait just a freaking minute.

As far as immaturity goes, neither of you can hold a candle to me. It's my whole shtick, it's all i got. I don't even engage with our wholesome theists, I just mock them out of my own insecurity. Top that you pretenders.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Fatland

@ Fatland

Cog? Nah he's probably feeling soiled...have you seen the state of his panties? TIn won't wash them anymore and I won't go near them with a long pole insulated at both ends with a china bit in the middle.

Oh...wait trolled you say...why would he feel that? Are you trolling for effect?

Cognostic's picture
@OLD MAN!: HA! I caught

@OLD MAN!: HA! I caught you red handed. YOU ARE THE PANTIES THIEF! How in the hell else would you know about the state of my panties! Your overly specific description, "China in the middle," has given you away! Okay, lets face it. I understand taking a pantie or two for a scratch and sniff occasion, but why did you take them all? What in the hell are you planning on doing with a hundred and six pair of soiled underwear? If you were hoping I would go out and buy some new ones, I'm not. Panties are a waste of money being advertised to us by the government owned corporate media. I refuse to be brainwashed. With a single diaper pin, a dish towel from the kitchen, some super glue, a thumb tack, a carpenter's square and a can of beer, the problem has been solved. I still want my underwear back. NOW!

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Cog

@ Cog

RE Panties Thief

I removed the DUNG pile of soiled panties, jocks, and stolen incontinence aids with a tractor. Mulched them and put them on the banana plantation where the new shoots are just showing.

You chimp count of "106" was out by about 2000...but then who said Chimps could count more than 20?

Tin Man wants to know where all the kitchen towels ( drying up cloths or tea towels to the civilised part of the anglosphere) have gone. I would counsel a visit to the local market before Tin discovers what you have been doing with them and his clothes pegs..

Also I want my carton of beer replaced you fucking thief. Tin Man also wanted me to tell you that throwing poo at the front of the house does not constitute "feeding the hanging baskets" as you were requested to do last week.

I am having a meeting with the Bonobos Housing Association on Monday when we will discuss a possible vacancy at our place.....CAPISCE?

Sheldon's picture
As Cyber says, this is a

As Cyber says, this is a debate forum, so open to all. Though the reasons seem to vary. Some, like lalaland are clearly just here to troll.

Flatland's picture
I don't lower myself to the

I don't lower myself to the level of calling people names though but you're wrong and I'm right and nothing will change that.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Flatfish

@ Flatfish

I must admit I do admire the way you can just Breeze through the conversations here.
The only other person I knew who had the self discipline to do that was an undergraduate Psych student idolised by his professors for his intellect and grasp of subject.
I just wish there were two of them. We need that sort of intellect here.

Flatland's picture
I believe in the end we will

I believe in the end we will all come out a better person.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Fatfart

@ Fatfart

"I believe in the end we will all come out a better person.

What all of us? As a sort of gestalt being? or individually different but all taste the same like Licorice Allsorts?

You really are not that good at one liners. I can hear the wind howling through the cracks.

Flatland's picture
It's a good thing it's

It's a good thing it's working.

Cognostic's picture
@Flatland: What a horrible

@Flatland: What a horrible thing to say. *Sniffing the air* My end stinks and I can not see how it is going to make me a better person.

Sheldon's picture
Flatland " you're wrong and I

Flatland " you're wrong and I'm right and nothing will change that."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_by_assertion

"Argument by assertion is the logical fallacy where someone tries to argue a point by merely asserting that it is true, regardless of contradiction. While this may seem stupid, it's actually an easy trap to fall into and is quite common."

Apollo's picture
In reply to the original

In reply to the original poster: I'm a theist who encountered an atheist who claimed science proved God does not exist. As support for his claim he cited Neil deGrasse Tyson. He claimed Tyson was an atheist scientist who proved God does not exist and offered that proof in the television series "Cosmos". Personally I didn't see any such proof in that series. So this fellow referred me to the Atheist Republic for proof. In the meantime I did some fact checking and discovered that Tyson does not call himself an atheist, rather, he calls himself agnostic. So much for the hypothesis that atheists have facts to back their claims. Incidentally, Tyson is most certainly dead set against fundamentalist versions of theism, and I agree with him. Many atheists seem to believe that fundamentalist theism is all of theism, a serious over generalization and flaw in atheist thinking.

So why did I come here? 1) to learn about atheism. I have no desire to turn anyone into a theist. 2) upon pursuing many posts and conversing in many threads I discovered that many atheists are mixed up. I encourage atheists to be good atheists. Part of being a good atheist is improving your thinking. You need an atheist thinker/writer who is top a notch thinker as a model. Dawkins is very popular, but I can assure you, he is far from a top notch thinker.

NewSkeptic's picture
@Ap

@Ap

I would assume a top notch thinker like yourself would understand that atheism makes no claims and would know that one can be both atheist and agnostic. One would think that anyone who had done even the most basic research would understand this, and yet, this forum shows that those of the theist mindset cannot seem to get this through their thick skulls.

Of course, unlike Dawkins, you are a top notch thinker. Oh the irony.

Apollo's picture
well you have made some

well you have made some interesting claims in your post, and you admittedly "assume". Now to the proving part. I await your proof.

NewSkeptic's picture
@AP

@AP

Oooh, a sly little bit of wordsmithing.

Proof of what exactly?

Atheism is a non believe in a god or gods. Dictionary definition. Agnosticism is about knowledge, as in I don't know. So I don't know if there is a god (Agnostic) AND I don't believe in any gods (Atheist).

This is not brain surgery and a person of your great intellect shouldn't have any issues understanding AND using properly going forward, I assume.

Apollo's picture
1) you wrote, "I assume..."

1) you wrote, "I assume..." Proof of your assumption?
2) You claimed that atheists make no claims. Proof of that claim?

NewSkeptic's picture
Do you understand what

Do you understand what "Definitions" are.

If you are just another presup, let me know and I'll bow out as there is no use arguing with an idiot.

...and wake TF up, I'm using "assume" over and over as a mocking mechanism.

... and I did not say that "atheists" make no claims, I said "atheism" makes no claims.

Sheldon's picture
Apollo "you have made some

Apollo "you have made some interesting claims in your post, and you admittedly "assume". Now to the proving part. I await your proof."

OK I will just allow that irony overload to dissipate a little first. Now lets take a look at this latest piece of hypocritical theistic sophistry.

"Fri, 02/28/2020 - 15:02(Reply to #38)#39
NewSkeptic "I would assume a top notch thinker like yourself would understand that atheism makes no claims"

Atheism is defined as the lack or absence of belief in any deity or deities, it is therefore manifestly not a claim, though an atheist may make a claim about the non-existence of a deity and remain an atheist. He is demonstrably correct.

"One would think that anyone who had done even the most basic research would understand this, and yet, this forum shows that those of the theist mindset cannot seem to get this through their thick skulls."

The proof of this statement litters these forum, in the evidence of multiple theists who have tried to peddle this dishonest misrepresentation of atheism, even your own post show the statement to be objectively true.

You asked for proof, fill your boots

Quod Erat Demonstrandum

LogicFTW's picture
@Apollo

@Apollo

I disagree with whatever atheist you spoke to.

I think science has zero "proof" or rather as I like to put it, demonstrable evidence for their being no "god."

I think Neil deGrasse Tyson is a real cool guy, but I highly doubt he was ever trying to "disprove god in the tv series cosmos.

I do think there are quite a few theist that define their god, all the way out of existence. (god of the gaps.) Other times I realize they could just as easily swap out the word god for their idea to just simply the universe.

But ultimately to me none of that really matters. Billions of people for thousands of years tried to evidence their god idea. Far as I know of, none succeeded in evidencing their god idea.

So to me these god ideas remain just that, a human created idea. No greater or lesser idea then my rainbow farting unicorn god idea save argumentum ad populum. I am a skeptic, and I am an atheist. I am atheist because I am not theist.

Apollo's picture
It would help if you

It would help if you reference some of your statements. For example, can you give me an instance of a theist who defines God as a "God of the gaps"?

Can you give an example of a theist who tried to "evidence their god idea"?

One thing that comes to mind upon reading your post is often I have asked atheists here to tell me what they mean by "evidence".
I get no answer. Seems that atheists have an idea of "evidence" that is uncritically accepted, and vaguely, if at all, defined.
I think that something is "evidence" for you only if you believe it is evidence.

There is nothing wrong with believing "these god ideas" are human created. Humans do create things. For example, some humans created the idea that the universe came from nothing, and that nothing = cosmic radiation. They have no proof if it, however. there is no proof that cosmic radiation = nothing and that the universe came from cosmic radiation. Even so, many atheists have that faith.

LogicFTW's picture
I wrote several times,

I wrote several times, demonstrable evidence.

As in evidence that one can actually demonstrate.

Okay let me step back and use an example.

You, Apollo, owe me 1 million dollars. Provide demonstrable evidence that you do not.

I imagine you realized, you can't. Does that mean I am right? Should I expect a check for 1 million in the mail?

Or do you now realize, the burden of proof remains solely with the claimant? To do otherwise is ridiculous.

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