I do not understand why Christians come to this site. What do they think they will change our minds? I was Christian at one time, as my profile lists, but I opened my mind to realizing there's so many other religious beliefs, they can not all be correct.
So I figured I would research more, and found most these stories including so called plagues can be explained. There's some which the natural weather was responsible for, if not all. And the world was never completely flooded.
It also doesn't mention the super continent which did exist before things shifted, and we had the world map which we have today. It's hard to imagine the world as one large piece, but that's what the world looked like at one time.
Anyways, I just hope not too many Christians try to argue with me.
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Gondwanaland. I took a course in Plate Tectonics and Sea Floor Spreading.
I agree. I was always a doubting Thomas but the biological and geological training sure took any remaining doubt away and filled a lot of the voids.
I think they come here to antagonize.
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@Bright Raven
If they would have counted all points correctly I would never have even graduated high school.
But I do know the world use to be all one piece.
Thanks Much. ;-)
Actually I think "Pangaea" like supercontinent and break up into smaller pieces has happened more than once on this planet. This planet has also been an ice cube, a water world, and a vast volcanic "desert." In its long history ;) At least, if memory serves correctly.
That's so cool! I'm a seismic engineer.
So much fun!
And also great knowledge to have when talking to idiot flat earthers, ask them to explain P waves, S waves etc...
@Fievel.
Christians come here because they are convinced Jesus told them to, in the bible . OR they are arrogant OR wilfully ignorant OR stupid OR masochistic OR are suffering from a delusion of adequacy, like JO.. OR because we're here OR a combination of any or all of those things .
Please remember, theists are not usually wilfully ignorant or especially stupid. It just seems that way because of those we get here. In real life, your average believer is quite normal--- apart from the cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias . This can often seem like simple ignorance or stupidity, but often it isn't it.
I hope I have answered your question and cleared up any confusion. You're welcome.
@cranky47
Yes quite clear.
Maybe they think we'll suddenly go on something called "faith" alone, and think we'll just convert to Christianity. I like sold evidence of things, I use that philosophy in everything. I need something they don't have, and that is proof.
I couldn't help hearing the cries. Life is life, you win some, you lose some.
@Flatland
Well you lose a lot, as there's no evidence of this god you believe in.
@Fievel
"Well you lose a lot, as there's no evidence of this god you believe in."
Indeed.
There is an irony which irritates me ; IF Christians are wrong, they will simply die and pass into oblivion, never realising they were lied to all of their lives. . IF we atheists are wrong, when we die we're fucked.***
That's assuming the monster YHWH of the Torah, rather than the benevolent Jesus, with infinite love, mercy and compassion. By definition, how could he possibly condemn ANYONE to eternal suffering and anguish ?
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***and no, the idiocy of Pascal's Wager makes no more sense to me than when I first heard it, when I was 12. The De La Salle brother taking the lesson became visibly peeved with me.
@cranky47
I doubt seriously there's anything after death, but if there is I also doubt atheists go to hell just for not believing in a god. There's no evidence of any god being in existence so if there were to happen to be one, your life is what is looked at.
You know... how you lived it, not what you believed. Faith goes on a false belief of a god, and many believe in the Christian god, which I began to question as young as 12. I didn't go full atheist until recently as I researched to try to find answers.
What I found is there's no god that I can find, nor is there any scientific proof of any god. The big bang happened, we don't know the exact details, but a god in my opinion wasn't needed.
If there is life after death, only the truly evil go to hell.
You're no different.
It is like flatland is a ghost that shows up and says weird short sentences that don't even really make sense.
@Fievel Mousekewitz: It's hard to imagine the world as one large piece, but that's what the world looked like at one time.
Lots of times. One of these super-continents was called Gondwana, and another was Pangaea, I think. Everything's been shuffled around endlessly. The Scottish Highlands used to be in Canada.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/canada-may-have-given-birth-t...
I don't know why Christians, etc., come here,other than to rattle our cages. Maybe some are even genuinely concerned about our immortal souls!
But I'm glad they do come. It's fun to argue, and you can learn a lot in the process of investigating and refuting their claims. I feel sad for their narrow view of the world. Cosmology, plate tectonics, and evolution are all infinitely more interesting and awe-inspiring than a hairy old fart magicking everything into existence in 6 days.
@Algebe
Pangaea is the one I've heard it called.
It's just simply the shifting of plates... right?
@ Fievel
It is more than shifting plates. Molten lava rises in the mid-Pacific rift and the mid-Atlantic rift. From there the sea floor spreads or is pushed out laterally. When it engages the continents, it is pushed down under them. These lateral solidified lava structures are called plates. Google plate Tectonics and there are images of the phenomenon.
@Bright Raven:
What amazes me is how we survive on a thin crust of rock under a thin layer of atmosphere, which together are much thinner than an eggshell in proportion to the size of the planet. This planet, which was allegedly custom-designed by god just for us, is essentially a giant ball of super-hot molten rock and metal.
@Algebe
Good thing too. Or our star would fry that tiny little surface and atmosphere.
@Algebe
Very precarious but it has supported life a long time. The atmosphere is held there by gravity. Humans have worshipped almost every heavenly body (suns, planets, etc) but I don't remember any civilization that has worshipped Gravity. They should!
Bright Raven: I don't remember any civilization that has worshipped Gravity.
Lots of religions make claims about defiance of gravity (i.e., levitation) by their gods and prophets. Remember yogic flying?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUnxnuUVEOs.
Such good fun. Are they propelled by thigh power or directed farts?
@Algebe
Oh I am sure the world shifted more than once, our earth is like 4.5 billion years old after all. And when our planet was first born, we couldn't have survived on it. Many lucky breaks happened to allow our existence. Some Christians believe it happened by the hand of a god. I don't.
It happened so randomly then maybe this so called god was drinking something pretty strong.
Anyways, it is interesting learning the many beliefs, I should probably watch (The Story Of God) I believe it would interest me the many ways people around the globe believe in their separate gods.
@Fievel Mousekewitz: Some Christians believe it happened by the hand of a god.
Think of god as a factory manager and the Earth as his production line. Every single species, land mass, climate system, mountain, river, etc., coming off that production line has broken down and failed in an instant of geological time. Some products, especially us, even cause other products to fail. God is also in charge of design, yet every new product embodies the flaws that doomed its predecessors. Defects are fixed with workarounds and kludges, rather than radical redesign.
As a manufacturer, god most resembles the East German car maker Trabant.
And yet people continue to buy stuff from the biblical bullshit factory.
@Fievel Mousekewitz
Why do Christians come here you ask?
What do you think the debate forum is for, atheists only?
Apart from that reason the variety of reasons they join fall on all sides of the spectrum.
Not all Christians are as you and others have depicted them in a negative tone.
Do you actually believe you are a better and smarter human being?
FYI I am neither Christian nor religious.
As I have always stated, the best book of wisdom is a book of blank pages.
Anyone who claims they are wise is a fool but that's just my opinion.
Fievel, you wrote, “This Site Is Called Atheist Republic So Why Do Christians Come Here?”
They likely come to the debate forum to engage in what they consider a debate. Or they are simply curious. Or they are having doubts.
“I do not understand why Christians come to this site. What do they think they will change our minds?”
Perhaps they do.
“So I figured I would research more, and found most these stories including so called plagues can be explained.”
And perhaps they are doing the same thing.
“Anyways, I just hope not too many Christians try to argue with me.”
Then you may want to stick to the Hub, where theists are unable to post.
@CyberLN
Maybe they are having doubts as you said. I was having doubts as young as 12 when I asked some man in church about the dinosaurs. I wondered when visiting museums and about the cavemen. Took me many years of my life to realize there's probably no god.
Thanks For Your Post.
@Fievel Re: "Why Do Christians Come Here?"
....*embarrassed look*... *timidly raising hand*... Uh, sorry, Fievel. That's, uh, probably my fault. Well, more accurately, it's my cologne. It's called "Oh Lord Almighty!" from the Pope Paul collection. For some damn reason Christians are attracted to it like flies are attracted to a pile of shit... Oh, wait... *scratching head in contemplation*... Something about that didn't sound too good for some reason... Eh, oh well...
Anyway, I've been meaning to purchase a different cologne. But every time I check, all the stores and online scent sites are sold out of "Bridge Troll Bouquet."
@Tin-Man
Pretty well agreed.
I believe they think they can convert us?
RE: Why do Christians come here? Some come with genuine questions and curiosity. Some, like Jo, Joy, JoC, and Bright Raven (Who is pretending to be an Atheist) simply come to troll.
Are you feeling trolled Cognostic?
@Cognostic
"Bright Raven (Who is pretending to be an Atheist)..."
Cognostic's posts continue to define a person with some form of social disorder.
He whines mercilessly about anyone who doesn't defend their postulates, yet he speculates on the character and practices of other Users on the forum. He tries unsuccessfully to project a learned intellectual, yet his composure skills reveal his inadequacies. Sadly, he defines himself as juvenile and immature.
@Moderator
Please take note of Cognostic's behavior. While it may not violate the guidelines of the forum, as long as You allow me to be here, I am going to continue to expose his dysfunctional behavior.
Sincerely,
Bright Raven
Bright Raven: More attempts at slurring and insulting, The exact same shit the hypocrite, BR, asserts should be avoided on the site. TROLL!
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