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ʝօɦռ 6IX ɮʀɛɛʐʏ's picture
You'll see. Don't worry.

You'll see. Don't worry.

Sheldon's picture
O already see thank you, your

I already see perfectly well thank you, your mendacious cherry picking is not exactly a unique or fresh approach in religious apologetics. Your assertion that the narrative in Exodus prohibiting kidnap infers it also prohibits slavery is completely refuted by the narrative in exodus also emphatically endorsing slavery.

You can be as cryptic as you like, the very fact you have to resort to such dishonest cherry picking says it all. The fact you have refused to answer any questions you don't like, and are desperately trying to limit the discussion to your very narrow, biased, subjective interpretation confined step by step to threads where you won't even recognise any contrary fact as salient is also very telling.

Here's a tip though, next time you don't want to discuss slavery, I'd recommend not entitling your thread slavery.

Sky Pilot's picture
That Yahweh boasted about

That Yahweh boasted about being a big slave trader himself.

Sheldon's picture
Diotrephes "That Yahweh

Diotrephes "That Yahweh boasted about being a big slave trader himself."

Indeed, I liked Dawkins slightly facetious opener in The God Delusion:

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

Any objective reading of the bible makes it impossible to disagree.

Sheldon's picture
Isn't there a commandment

Isn't there a commandment against lying? Surely anything this dishonest counts? A thread entitled slavery, claiming in the OP that a narrative in the bible prohibiting kidnap must have prohibited slavery. That ignores the same narrative specifically endorsing slavery, and that slavery is endorsed elsewhere, then refusing to answer any question, and pretending the thread is not about slavery and so no mention of slavery will be addressed?

It'd be funny if it wasn't so tediously dishonest. Can any sane rational person base an entire worldview on such an obvious house of cards built with smoke and mirrors? I guess if a person can deceive themselves like this they have to convince themselves it works on everyone to maintain the delusion.

Sheldon's picture
So after several pages what

So after several pages what have we learned?

The bible endorses the buying and owning of one human being by another as property. They can be passed on as property, so effectively remain slaves until they die. Their children became slaves, and slaves could be beaten, even to death as long as the hapless slave in question survived the beating for 48 hours.

Also the same laws prohibited kidnap, which obviously was no barrier to slavery at all or the bible wouldn't endorse slavery and have slaves.

Breezy has tap danced his way through 2 threads and not offered a single word or argument to change the facts we started with. Offering only subjective assertion based on unabashed cherry picking.

Since his latest trick is a disingenuous attempt to define biblical endorsements of slavery as somehow not slavery as "we know it". Here is the Oxford English Dictionary definition ofslave...


1(especially in the past) a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.

So precisely matching the biblical endorsement in question, and matching Jesus admonishment for "slaves to obey their masters".

No much else to discuss there really...


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