What do you atheists think about Dr John Lennox?
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I don't think I've heard of him before this thread.
What do you Muslims think of Dr. Feelgood?
He's the one that makes you feel alright, right?
Well, he's a Creationist and Christian apologist.
What do *you* think we think about him?
We'll give you 20 guesses, but the first 19 don't count.
Does this individual have something substantive to contribute?
Who the hell is Dr. John Lennox???
Edit to add: What do YOU think about Dr. Pepper?
At least Dr. Pepper tastes good!
@Nyarlathotep: At least Dr. Pepper tastes good!
I haven't been able to even look at Dr. Pepper since Forrest Gump.
"At least Dr Pepper tastes good!"
That's strictly a matter of personal opinion.
Added....to be fair, who here has recently tasted Dr Lennox? Anyone?
@ Grinseed
I have not tasted Dr Lennox. But Dr Pepper has GOT to taste much better than one full of bullshit.
rmfr
Mrs. Lennox?
servantofAllah: "What do you atheists think about Dr John Lennox?"
Sorry, but I cannot truly state my opinion on Dr. John Lennox without getting banned from these forum boards.
Does that give you any ideas?
rmfr
I get it, but he is an Oxford mathematician.
So what?
Let me be more explicit. Lennox is a trinitarian as well. If you don't know what that means, it means he endorses the Christian doctrine that states that Jesus IS God. Presumably that violently contradicts what you believe (as a Muslim).
If Lennox's religious beliefs and mathematical prowess are an argument in favor of god's existence; they are also an argument against Islam. This is what happens when one starts desperately grasping at straws; they often end up with a hand full of feces instead.
servantofallah: "I get it, but he is an Oxford mathematician."
Similar to what Nyarlathotep said: "So fucking what?"
He is foremost a Religious Absolutist. Remember the definition I gave you for Religious Absolutists? No?
So, if you "get it," why even mention he is an Oxford Mathematician. Want to know about how many classes in college I dropped simply due to the fact that the professor was a Religious Absolutist completely incapable of keeping their religiosity out of the classroom? About a dozen. And every last one of them was in the "liberal arts" category of art, english composition, languages, sociology, etc. Basically anything that was NOT "science" based. Why is it these liberal arts professors cannot keep their damned religiosity out of influencing their teachings? It is ONLY the science professors that are intelligent enough to either keep their religiosity out of their teachings, or they just are not religious.
Thus, my question. Why the fuck do you even want to know what us atheists think of someone who is clearly delusional? And to answer you upcoming question, anyone who is supposedly as intelligent as Lennox, yet deluded by religion is clearly delusional. And before you ask for yourself, "If the shoe fits..."
rmfr
what are you btw, physicist , mathematician or what??
@ SofA
Is this directed at me? It helps if you put an "at" symbol (@) followed by the Screen Name.
If it was directed at me, then, professionally I am a field specialist and analytical technician working for both the United States National Park Service (Park Ranger) and the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory (Volcanologist).
As a life-long hobby and an additional Baccalaureate Degree, I am also an Astrophysicist with a focus in Celestial and Orbital Mechanics (Stellar System Formation).
What are you besides a thrall for a make-believe Sky Faerie?
rmfr
currently in last year of school, applying to study theoretical physics and applied mathematics
@ SofA
Done had those. At least some of them. For Celestial and Orbital Mechanics you have to study some quite advanced calculus.
"...in last year of school..." Baccalaureate? Masters? ???
Back to the original question. I respect Lennox as the mathematician that he is; otherwise, he ain't worth my time.
rmfr
high school, applying for undergrad
@SofA Re: "I get it, but he is an Oxford mathematician."
And Kermit the Frog is green. What's your point?
Tin man
John Lennox is a brilliant math processor at Oxford university. He speaks 5 languages. He believes in the literal interpretation of tle bible
Adam and Eve virgin birth of Jesus Noahs arc etc. .Why he is interesting is because how can such a brilliant man believe in such ridiculous ideas.
"I get it, but he is an Oxford mathematician."
Do you know what an appeal to authority fallacy is? It is when you cite someone's opinion on something as validated purely based on their reputation, often in an unrelated field, as you are doing here.
Unless of course you're saying John Lennox has produced a peer reviewed mathematical proof that supports the existence of a deity?
I've just scoured the internet and the entire world seems to have missed it is that is what you're claiming, and if it's not what you're claiming then like everyone else I'm at a loss as to what point your making by asking atheists their opinions on a mathematician?
"Unless of course you're saying John Lennox has produced a peer reviewed mathematical proof that supports the existence of a deity?"
if there was would you believe?
"Unless of course you're saying John Lennox has produced a peer reviewed mathematical proof that supports the existence of a deity?"
servantofAllah "if there was would you believe?"
Is there one? Link it then please, as I'm dubious that the entire world has missed this?
He's an enigma--a world-class mathematician and scientist who's also a Christian apologist.
Perhaps the OP thinks that this somehow undermines atheism. There are always aberrations, and there are a lot more atheists going through the motions in pulpits and mosques than there are theists doing real science in laboratories.
@Algebe Re: "He's (Dr. Lennox) an enigma--a world-class mathematician and scientist who's also a Christian apologist."
OOOOoooooh... Okay! Why didn't the OP just say so? Well, now, THAT changes EVERYTHING.... *tilting head to side quizzically*... Oh, wait... No it doesn't....
So let me get this straight. Lennox is not in the Dr Pepper commercial. Is there a dog in the ad? I like dogs.
Hey, S of A! What do you think of Dr. Johnny Fever?
In all seriousness, when I made my first post in this thread, I did wiki him to see if I had ever heard of him and to see what arguments he had made, but his page doesn't seem to cover those.
I suggest to @servantofAllah that he gives a summary of Lennox's work and/or any arguments he might have.
Sounds like a Born Again Christian with a degree in Mathematics.
"John Carson Lennox is a Northern Irish mathematician specializing in group theory, a philosopher of science and a Christian apologist. He is Emeritus Professor of Mathematics at the University of Oxford and an Emeritus Fellow in Mathematics and Philosophy of Science at Green Templeton College, Oxford University. Wikipedia"
He debates Richard Dawkins here - A biologist and a philosopher of mathematics discussing "Who Created God." Only two people completely unfamiliar with theology would agree to such a topic. "WHO" presumes a being "Created" presumes non-natural or naturally occurring. And then there is the assumption of God. (Dawkins was an idiot for taking the debate just based on the topic.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM_sUy9RW-E&t=1s
Really weird debate. Lennox begins shifting the burden by assuming Dawkins has to prove God is a Delusion. WTF does that have to do with God is Created?
I have not see the debate. Just wanted to get a look at Lennox. He is a typical Christian apologist IMO.
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