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@ In Spirit
Respect is earned. Your posts did not earn anything but derision. Which you got.
So, you have no evidence? just a hypothesis? Has it been tested ? Or are we talking personal conviction here?
I was a career musician for 30 years, then an actor, and finally a writer until I retired. I am married to an artist.
@ In Spirit
Nah. The only thing going over our heads is the stupidity when one simply spews a non-ending, non-breaking thread of text as demonstrated below (and more for you to read after).
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Generated 20 paragraphs, 1817 words, 12,055 bytes of Lorem Ipsum. Paragraphs undone for demonstration purposes by Arakish.
However, you seem to have finally learned what a PARAGRAPH is. Will miracles never cease? As exampled above, see how disconcerting it is to look at a pure vomiting of text?
rmfr
Arakish
What do you read then? It definitely cannot be books
By the way, what you wrote is extremely close to a dialect i know that I can make out some of the gibberish words and meaningless sentences. Learning is never boring.
There are many ways to teach a person. For the students out there in the real world I hope you are not a teacher.
In Spirit: "What do you read then? It definitely cannot be books"
Actually it is books. Just books you have no ability to comprehend.
"There are many ways to teach a person. For the students out there in the real world I hope you are not a teacher."
Too late. I do teach a class once a month at a local school.
"By the way, what you wrote is extremely close to a dialect i know that I can make out some of the gibberish words and meaningless sentences. Learning is never boring."
Proof you would not have the mental faculties to understand any of the books I read. Did you not see the first sentence after the example showing your incapability to write cogently?
I did not write that text. I used a Lorem Ipsum Generator.
Go back to school yungun. This time around don't skip so many classes.
Even Tin-Man has shown himself to be far superior to you when comes to intelligence.
rmfr
@Arakish
And you think that this Generator has not inadvertently used real words from other dialects...back to the drawing board Pegasus.
Why do people keep responding to me when they say I have no mental faculties? What's that Forrest Gump? Takes one to know one?...lol
My my my, for people professing to be atheist, some of you here have the same distasteful characteristics of religious zealots?. Not so different after all. Oops did I just say that?
You are all better and smarter than me. Praise the wisdom of these fine speakers. I think they wish to be worshiped as well. Oops i did it again.
Time to move on to some other Post. Too much repetitive babble just like the religious fanatics repeating the same quotes. Darn it I said it out loud this time...lol
I am 30 years old, I don't have a job and I live with my parents.
My name is George Costanza...lol
She's not smarter than me is she?...lol
By the way...the best writer I've seen here so far is Tin Man. No one here comes close to his original and professional style.
He's even better than I am and that I can acknowledge...something most of you can't do ....acknowledge that is.
Tata see you around the flat earth...lol
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@Arakish
Eh, looks like Latin to me... *chuckle*..
Yea, it definitely wasn't Klingon.
mangghom DaS tuQ SoSlI' Hoch
"It made direct contact. "
I don't believe you, what evidence can you demonstrate to support this claim?
"This great Spirit of Love is unlike anything you have read or heard about."
I don't believe you, how can you possibly know what I have read about, that's an asinine claim.
I hate to deflate this massively egotistical bubble you're creating, but we have seen many such grandiose and grandiloquent claims on here, and never once do they go any farther than the bare claims itself.
Have a great day.
I don't believe in your god because there is zero objective evidence of his existence. Why do you believe in him? You must believe in things without evidence obviously. Not that I really need to know anything from you...considering you are not someone worthy of trustworthy information.
Hello. This is my first day on this site. My options in joining were Atheist or Religious. I didn't know which to click on because I am neither. That may sound confusing but you will understand once i reply to your question. I automatically assume that you are speaking of the God mentioned in religious books. I don't believe in that God. I don't believe in any God that this world preaches. I used to believe in that God until the age of 33. Then I chose to call out to the Great Spirit of LOVE and told it that if it exists it is obligated to make direct contact with me because this world is full of lies and manipulation and books are too confusing and interpretive and that it has no right to judge me if I am not led to the truth. From that day forward it has become a relationship of direct contact. It has showered me with many powerful gifts that are to be used only when I am called to do so to help others. I will not get into the big list of gifts but I can tell you this, we all have these gifts, it only showed me how to access them. Unfortunately most people are not aware of this. This Great Spirit of LOVE is non judgmental, calls no one to war on it's behalf, does not lie or manipulate anyone, unlike the God we read about. This is why I don't believe in the God of THIS WORLD. Now I have to ask, why do you believe in your God?
If you believe in a deity, any deity, then you're a theist. If you don't believe in ANY deity or deities then you're an atheist.
It's not a complex concept as atheism is simply the absence or lack of theism. In terms of belief they're mutually exclusive positions. You cannot by definition hold neither position.
In terms of knowledge you can maintain agnosticism on any claim or assertion. If a claim is unfalsifiable I would disbelieve it as unfalsifiable claims by definition can't be evidenced. I would also be agnostic about such claims.
Agnosticism is defined as the belief you don't and can't know anything about the nature or existence of a deity. Thus it's irrational to believe something you admit you can know nothing about. It doesn't only apply to deities or a deity either, but to all unfalsifiable claims.
Now, what objective evidence can you demonstrate for your belief(s) or for any deity?
And adding on Sheldon's reply.
Here are some definitions I have used all my life, or at least the last 40 to 45 years.
Any are free to steal these definitions if desired. No attribution required.
rmfr
Sheldon
Don't we humans love labels. We seem to be lost without them but labels are also a trap. In creating labels and definitions for them we put everything into neat compiled boxes. Example: If i say "God" everyone opens up that one box. What if that box is missing pieces and has pieces that don't belong in that box, then the premise on which we begin is unstable. Every language we created is insufficient to explain our thoughts, the place where all forms of communication stems from. I have always believed that the best book of knowledge ever written is a book of blank pages. But unfortunately we are human and language is the best we came up with but ultimately a faulty one. Not all (choose any one label) have the exact same beliefs. There are always differences. Perhaps you are under the impression that I believe in a deity. The great Spirit of Love I have come to know is not a deity. It is not even our creator. Surely if we found aliens somewhere out there and highly more advanced, I would never say they or their leader is my deity. A deity according to your labeling techniques requires worship, does it not? This spirit I know does not require any worship. It is my best friend just as you envision and experience your best earthly friend. I use the word Spirit to describe it only because my language does not allow me to define it's real essence. As for the objective evidence you seek from me about this amazing entity,....well you would have to hang around with me to see it for yourself just as my closest ones had the amazing opportunity when they are with me. If you prefer the scientific method, then it is your obligation to test my claims in the manner which I had mentioned and come up with your own conclusion based on your findings. Have a great day !!
Do you believe in a deity or not?
Can you demonstrate any objective evidence for your beliefs or not?
Please do try to employ a lot more brevity in your answers. The more vapid rhetoric and verbiage you employ the less likely I am to tread what you are posting, and I simply disbelieve all claims offered without any evidence, as you have done so far.
Dear Sheldon. It's a shame that this digital age requires people to read no more that a few lines. Anything more than that and you get bored. If humanity was based on that we would get nowhere and school years would be but a few months.
If by deity you mean as defined below then my answer is No
What I believe in is nothing more than some entity with great wisdom and knows more about us and this planet than what is being fed to us. Think of it as my mentor.
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a god or goddess (in a polytheistic religion).
"a deity of ancient Greece"
synonyms: god, goddess, divine being, celestial being, supreme being, divinity, immortal; More
divine status, quality, or nature.
"a ruler driven by delusions of deity"
the creator and supreme being (in a monotheistic religion such as Christianity).
noun: Deity; noun: the Deity
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In Spirit: "It's a shame that this digital age requires people to read no more that a few lines. Anything more than that and you get bored."
Only when the text is written by a bore.
rmfr
@In Spirit
"Hello. This is my first day on this site. My options in joining were Atheist or Religious. I didn't know which to click on because I am neither."
There's an "other" option...
My word.
I can't be bothered to read the rest of this rambling vomit of unformatted, run-on, word-salad.
@Terraphon
I'm checking out of this post so I'm saying my last goodbyes.
Your response matches your intelligence. Why would you waste you time responding with gibberish to something you couldn't bother reading? That's rhetorical in case you need direction.
What a bunch of bullies pretending to be gods. Ah how the children express themselves in times of glory.
Tally Ho Ho Ho
I am an atheist and do not believe in any god.
But I have found that midget porn raises my ... umm .... spirit when I am exposed to so much love.
That isn't accurate. You were given the option of atheist or non-atheist.
If you are not an atheist, then you are a non-atheist; in the same way if you are not a hippopotamus you are a non-hippopotamus. Then you were asked what your beliefs were, and presumably you didn't find one to your liking so you choose other.
What more do you want?
Because that's the way I was born, and I've never been presented with a rational reason to think differently.
I say "think" because what I, or anyone, believe is irrelevant when it comes to describing how our universe works.
Islam and Christianity were spread by "colonialism" and it would be logical to consider how gods like Zeus or Ra were created. Perhaps the famous Gods of today were created in the same way.
Why did Allah stop sending messengers? Why did Jesus choose the people of Israel to proclaim his divinity? Why not the native Americans /Africans/Chinese? Why did all Abrahamic religions come from the Middle East? Why were all messengers/prophets men?
Why don't we see persecuted men claiming they spoke to God these days?
God could be real, the chance is 50%. We cannot prove or disapprove his existence.
But if he is, why did he make Muhammad the last messenger or why did Jesus come and leave? Why leave us in a dynamic, fast-paced world with scriptures that do not make sense which include, punishment, reward, tactics of war, stories that defy the laws of physics (splitting the sea). Forget gravity ! It says that some people came back to life.
That is completely [100%] irrational.
Strange that these particular gods such as that of Islam or Christianity and so on...
Never turned up to the Native Americans? The Aztecs? The far east i.e. Japan....
It's almost as if these religions are confined to localised areas and are spread by their believers...
It's almost like... it's all completely bollocks...
Strange isn't it?!
And completely inefficient for a supposedly all-knowing and all-powerful god.
Indeed, so he is either completely inept or the unrelenting made up drivel of archaic idiots.
I have used this argument with a girl that I know... No answer from her.
For one thing ServantofAllah, why the hell hasn't anyone else on here thought to ask you why your username is loyal to ALLAH aka ServentofAllah??? Seriously, people aren't paying attention around here are they? Allah/Muhommad/Mohommad is the Muslim/Islam equivilent of Christ Jehovah and Christ jesus, and you're gonna let this dude roam around on your forums asking questions? Should be limited to REAL atheists only right? Seeing as how you are the Atheist Republic right, SO WTF????? And I don't believe in God because the times I tried praying to him as a child, scared, little, not knowing any better, and desperate for answers, he never came to me or helped me. And because I know several other people who had issues of a 7 year old child with cancer, who died after the whole family prayed endlessly for his recovery and, women who were extremely loyal and quote "holy" who begged and begged to conceive just ONE child, wanted that kid more than anything and prayed to jesus/mary endlessly, even catholics I've known who gave offerings and participated in holy rituals for this for 3 years straight and got nothing after 37 years of trying to conceive, nothing but negative pregnancy tests, while their neighbors up the street who were 17 and 22 year old whores, who were unmarried, and some who were on drugs when they conceived, popped out 3 kids back to back.
Some of these women gave their kids up for adoption while others used them to get a Welfare check and they're doing just fine right now with no problems, eligible for several welfare services like SNAP, WIC, and so on. So tell me, GOD is real. While there are children in Africa starving half to death that only acknowledge christ because of the ministries who visit them with food, medicine, etc. forcing their religions on them but, normally, these people are left to starve without the interference of AMERICAN missionaries. Exactly my point. People care about people, NOT god cares about people. Which is what it means to be a TRUE atheist!!!!
@J3SUS Re: "Allah/Muhommad/Mohommad is the Muslim/Islam equivilent of Christ Jehovah and Christ jesus, and you're gonna let this dude roam around on your forums asking questions?"
Howdy! Welcome to the AR! Nice of you to join us, J3SUS. Thing is, this is the Debate Forum. Everybody - atheists and theists and everything in between - is welcomed to join in and bring up topics for discussion/debate. After all, wouldn't be much debating going on if every person here agreed with each other about everything, would there?... *chuckle*... However, we atheists do have a place where we can "escape" and carry on conversations without theist interference. It is the Atheist Hub. If debating theists is not really your thing, then you are invited to zip on over to our Atheist Hub and do some chatting in there. Plenty of good folks here. See ya around.
I'm sure this has been said repeatedly in this thread but I'll add in my $0.02.
I was a believer...for decades. Certain events in my life cause me to start questioning many, many things...religion was one of those things I began to question.
After a lot of introspection, thought, study on various religions, spiritual beliefs, non-religious philosophies, etc., I came to the determination that there was no good justification for my belief in "god(s)". Then I went on a search for that justification because I, like many (I'm sure), was uncomfortable with simply hanging it all up and becoming a dreaded, outcast, heathenistic atheist.
Well, I searched...and I searched...and I searched...and when I was done searching I searched some more and when I was sick to death of searching for any little spark of truth or shred of evidence which justified a belief in "god(s)", I searched some more.
Here's what I found:
While doing all of this searching I was, at the same time, refining and sharpening my use of logic and reason. As that happened, I got further and further away from seeing any justification. The more I researched and the more I applied those skills, the more it became obvious that there is no known justification for those beliefs. That there is nothing demonstrable...That there is nothing testable...That there's simply nothing there, at all...at this time.
If there's nothing there which justifies the belief then the belief is without benefit. If it holds no benefit, it has to be let go.
Maybe someday that will change. Maybe, someday, someone will find some evidence or even some irrefutable proof that "god(s)" exist. If that happens I will look at that evidence and if it is sufficient to justify the belief then I will, without hesitation, believe. Until then, I'll live my life the best way I know how. I'll make my own decisions based on their individual merits. I will live in such a way that I would like everyone else to live and, in the end, I'll know that I did the best I could because it was the right thing to do...Not because some "higher power" told me to.
Terraphon: "... but I'll add in my $0.02."
Bold text above. You might want to put that into terms theists can understand. Very few are able to comprehend mathematical statements like that. ;-P
Just saying...
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