Atheist Challenge:

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Atheist Challenge:

Visit a Christian site of your choosing. Log in and ask some very simple questions. Do not be rude. Do not be confrontational. How long can you ask questions and not be banned from the site? Once you are back here, name the site and share your experience with any quotes or dialogue.

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Cognostic's picture
I am going to Christianchat

I am going to Christianchat.com "Your account is currently awaiting confirmation. Confirmation." I filled everything out and submitted my request to join, but I was honest about my favorite bible verses.

Deuteronomy 13 "Kill anyone who disagrees with your belief. Your hand should be first to strike them dead." and Luke 14:26, "Anyone who does not hate their mother, father, sister, brother, aunt and uncle will not be admitted into heaven."

Have not heard from them yet.

NewSkeptic's picture
You've got the wrong version

You've got the wrong version of the bible for Luke 14:26. It's all about love, not hate.

Contemporary English Version
You cannot be my disciple, unless you love me more than you love your father and mother, your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters. You cannot follow me unless you love me more than you love your own life.

Good News Translation
"Those who come to me cannot be my disciples unless they love me more than they love father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and themselves as well.

Cognostic's picture
Luke 14:26 New International

Luke 14:26 New International Version (NIV)
26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters—yes, even their own life—such a person cannot be my disciple.

Contemporary English Version - History
Published by the American Bible Society, the Contemporary English Version has the goal of was uncompromising simplicity. Also known as the Bible for Today’s Family, the CEV is written at a fourth grade reading level, making it appropriate for children and adults with limited English skills.

Contemporary English Version - Pro’s and con’s
The Contemporary English Version is easy-to-read and easy-to-understand. It is written in quality and contemporary English. However, when it goes more toward dynamic equivalence and less toward formal equivalence, the CEV sometimes goes astray, interpreting rather than translating.

IT'S NOT WORTH THE PAPER IT IS WRITTEN ON.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ New Skeptic

@ New Skeptic

you've got the wrong version of the bible

LMFAO...don't that say it all.......

cranky47's picture
Have actually done that,

Have actually done that, twice, quite some years ago .

First time I lasted 20 minutes before being banned. Umm, I guess I was insufficiently circumspect . Second time, I was a bit more careful .Asked about something, in a most respectful manner, and asked members to THINK about it. I was banned after an hour.

I concluded that Christians tend to be treated with more acceptance on most atheist forums than atheists on a Christian forum. Although, to be honest, I would ban them immediately on discovery if could. That is because they tend to be ignorant and impervious to critical thinking, and often disingenuous in the way they present themselves. (they lie)

I owe such idiots nothing. I afford them the same respect they offer me. None.

Cognostic's picture
@cranky47: I have to agree.

@cranky47: I have to agree. The worst thing that can be said about an atheist on a Christian site is that we are trying to take their money from them.

cranky47's picture
Really? How? I wasn't aware

Really? How? I wasn't aware of that.

That's one of the things I've noticed about god; he always needs money.

Recently I read that one of his televangelists absolutely must have private jet. Apparently god can't hear his prayers in a public airplane

I kid you not.

David Killens's picture
Then you will love/hate this

Then you will love/hate this article. Here is one passage.

"When asked why the plane is registered in Aruba, rather than the U.S., Angley said he was just following orders from God."

https://www.ohio.com/news/20190102/falling-from-grace-part-5-rev-ernest-...

Cognostic's picture
@ Christianchat.com: 2 DAYS

@ Christianchat.com: 2 DAYS AND NO RESPONSE - HA HA HA HA HA ..... Could it be the bible verses I chose?

Tin-Man's picture
@Cog

@Cog

There is a part of me that wants very badly to find a Christian site and try to ask a few questions there. For real. But then there is the other part of me (my annoying conscious) that would feel like a wolf strolling into a flock of helpless sheep.... *chuckle*... Even if I made it through the enrollment process, I doubt I would make it more than five minutes before getting my ass booted right back out the door... lol

Cognostic's picture
*Another day come and gone

*Another day come and gone and not a word from Christian.com I feel so rejected!!!

Nyarlathotep's picture
Should present yourself as a

Should present yourself as a Muslim, see if you last longer.

Cognostic's picture
I wonder? I think I could

I wonder? I think I could pull it off in writing. (PBUH) just ends every sentence. The Kalam Cosmological Argument is Islamic in origin and I can totally be one hell of a presuppositionalist. Might be fun.

Cognostic's picture
Well, here it is.... nearly

Well, here it is.... nearly a week later and I have no story to tell. I was not admitted to the site. No one sent me an e-mail with a secret code. I am rejected and dejected. Hell, they treat me no better than the folks around here. Life sucks!!! ;-)

Tin-Man's picture
@Cog Re: " Hell, they treat

@Cog Re: " Hell, they treat me no better than the folks around here. Life sucks!!!"

Aw, shut up and go eat a banana, you loser! Nobody here wants to hear your bitchy little whiny ass!

Cognostic's picture
@Tin-Man:

@Tin-Man:
*FOOT STEPS RUNNING AWAY* "WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!" *DOOR SLAMS*

Mikhael's picture
Reminds me of my tin e back

Reminds me of my tin e back on Catholic answers forums and how it took me like 28 bans and finally throwing a fit before they ip banned me :p

Ricardo's picture
Unfortunately there is still

Unfortunately there is still intolerance against the Atheists!

Tin-Man's picture
@Kundalino Re:

@Kundalino Re: "Unfortunately there is still intolerance against the Atheists!"

Well, hell, how can you blame the poor theists? It's quite obvious that atheists are nothing but a bunch of arrogant and evil know-it-all assholes who have no respect for the theists' imaginary spirit friend. In all fairness, if somebody were to tell me MY imaginary friend isn't real, then I know I would get all butt-hurt about it and not want to be around them. Because if you cannot accept and respect my imaginary friend (His name is Todd, by the way.), then you obviously have no respect for me. After all, Todd has imaginary friends too, and I am totally okay with that... *turning to Todd*... Come on, Todd, let's go play in our imaginary tree house with some of your imaginary friends. Just don't serve any of that imaginary tea, though. It gave me gas last time.

Cognostic's picture
Tin: Aw hell, you know Todd

Tin: Aw hell, you know Todd!!?? I went to High School with Todd. One hell of a hide-n-seek player. I remember shoving him into the girls locker room once, all he did was emerge with a shit eating grin on his face. I asked him what happened and he told me "No one noticed him." He played basket ball for shit, Could not hold onto the ball to save his life. Still he was a whole lot of fun to hang out with and talk to. A great listener. I always wondered what happened to ole Todd. I never knew he was into robotics. Kwel!!! Tell him I said "Hi." And if he is telling you about the alien invasion and how he once saved the earth, he is lying. It was a well flung bit of poo that did the trick.

Tin-Man's picture
@Cog Re: "And if he is

@Cog Re: "And if he is telling you about the alien invasion and how he once saved the earth, he is lying. It was a well flung bit of poo that did the trick."

Hey, if it's all the same to you, we'll just keep that to ourselves. Todd is pretty proud of having saved the world. He brags about it all the time. I would hate to break his heart by telling him it was all a lie. Todd is entitled to his delusions just like the rest of us.

Edit to add: Besides, I never know for sure when one of Todd's imaginary friends might be nearby eavesdropping. And I don't want to make him look bad in front of any of them. That's just rude.

Cognostic's picture
@Tin: RE: "I never know for

@Tin: RE: "I never know for sure when one of Todd's imaginary friends might be nearby eavesdropping."

Damn, he still has that problem does he? He was seeing a shrink in HS. I used to take him after school on Tuesdays and Wednesdays. He was so delusional that he could not tell which imaginary friends were real and which were not. I can't count the number of nights I woke to find him in a rage upon discovering the friend he was having sex with was not really a friend. You know how imaginary friends are during High School, raging hormones and all. Hope he is doing better. Just a quick warning. Don't let him near any small furry animals. Okay, bye for now.

Tin-Man's picture
@Cog Re: "Don't let him near

@Cog Re: "Don't let him near any small furry animals."

Oh, shit! Maybe that explains why all my hamsters keep disappearing!... *storming out of room*... TODD!.... Where are you, you little hamster thief?!?...

Cognostic's picture
Tin: Oh hell. Check in his

Tin: Oh hell. Check in his shoes. He wraps them up in electrician tape so they don't explode and uses them as sex toys.

TheBlindWatchmaker's picture
Someone ought to go on one of

Someone ought to go on one of there sites and state the following,

"Hi I'm 'X', a student at 'random town/location' college of atheism and critical thinking".
"Part of my thesis (or, my professor has told us...…) is to meet gullible morons and ask them one simple question, why?"

:P

Rohan M.'s picture
Reminds me of when I went on

Reminds me of when I went on Conservapedia and never lasted an hour. (Which isn't too surprising, really, as that blog is notorious for its literally continent-sized range-blocks.)

LogicFTW's picture
I used to visit theist sites,

I used to visit theist sites, kind of ran through most of the more popular ones of the time. It is the same as here (arguing with theist is and realizing you might as well argue with a brick wall,) except they are very ban happy, and you all know me, I tend to be the more agreeable and polite in general, well unless I am in a mood...

Spending time putting together a good rebuttal or a new topic to only see it get deleted and/or banned got old for me real fast. I even got a couple of bodily harm/death threats. If an atheist here gets involved in this I recommend using a proxy server, just to be on the safe side, some of those folks are very sensitive about any perceived slight on their religion/god.

Plenty of free proxy servers that work just fine for this sort of thing.

Mutorc S'yriah's picture
@ NewSkeptic

@ NewSkeptic
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You've got the wrong version of the bible for Luke 14:26. It's all about love, not hate.

Contemporary English Version
You cannot be my disciple, unless you love me more than you love your father and mother, your wife and children, and your brothers and sisters. You cannot follow me unless you love me more than you love your own life.

Good News Translation
"Those who come to me cannot be my disciples unless they love me more than they love father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, and themselves as well.
__________________

As @ Old man shouts put it . . .
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@ New Skeptic

you've got the wrong version of the bible

LMFAO...don't that say it all.......
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It's all about picking your Bible, and then your preferred Bible verses ~ ignore some other verses, or maybe pick which Christian denomination to join up with, or alternatively which religion to adopt, or perhaps which woo woo to take on. There's obviously no CLEAR message among any of those - you just take what you like, and call the rest misguided. But maybe one could choose none of them and be atheist, (and misguided and EVIL baaaah :-{ ).

Mutorc.
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Nyarlathotep's picture
Mutorc S'yriah - There's

Mutorc S'yriah - There's obviously no CLEAR message among any of those - you just take what you like, and call the rest misguided.

Oh, and don't forget to demand it is objective; after you finish constructing your Dr. Frankenstein's monster from the parts you like.

TheBlindWatchmaker's picture
Christopher Hitchens was

Christopher Hitchens was right, they do appear to enjoy taking their theism à la carte.

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