No they are not exclusive to atheists, everyone is capable they will just manifest themselves in different forms depending on where one is coming from whether it be religion or politics. My examples are specific to atheists because that is where they are coming from. And as I said in my OP even i am guilty of these practices from time to time. Which is why wrote my OP, as a means of providing a way for us to work together to avoid them when we can. If one makes these mistakes then we should try and point it out so as to provide a better avenue to get real results. Just look at when a theist actually posts on these forums, it is not long before they are ganged up on by 8 people in opposition, 2 will try to have a reasonable discussion, but they other 6 will drown them out and all the theist will do is avoid the discussion. Maybe this is why we keep seeing a drive by post. They have no chance when the village atheists come with torches lit and foam at the mouth. It appears that what they want is an echo chamber, not debate.

When they come in and misrepresent my OP, then refuse to acknowledge when I clarify my intent then they are not adding anything to the discussion, when they then start to troll, and act as if they did nothing wrong, patting themselves on the back for shitting all over the thread it pisses me off . Now the only person how has actually offered anything substantial to the discussion was SeenUb4 we did not agree, which is fine, but he did not go out of his way to jump on CyberLN's mistake and run with it. I am only responding in kind to they way they are acting. I do not claim that I am any better, but it appears that I am the only one capable of honestly acknowledging my role in this. You know that I can handle criticism and will admit I am wrong when it is shown to be true. But they came and shit all over this thread and you appear to only call me out...why is this?

Fair enough, as I said my behaivor was no better, and on me losing my temper i felt that I was being ignored and ganged up on for something I did not say. So i lost my patience, add the fact that I just got back on my ADD medication which takes time to adjust in my system, which makes me irritable at first (something I have a habit of forgetting) For a long time I had bad habits (passive aggressive responses are one example) in debate, something I worked hard to overcome and I try to share what I learned but I can still fall back into them when I lose my temper. So I thank you for calling me out, and making me take a second glance at my behavior. You offered fair criticism and I can see where you are coming from.