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Life and consciousness are

Life and consciousness are perfectly natural phenomena, if you believe there is something more then this, you need to prove it!

Every single causal action conforms to laws of nature and physics, this is unflinching and unbroken.
There is absolutely no evidence of anything to the contrary, unless you can demonstrate otherwise.

Unfortunately, theists would rather believe in superstition and what makes them feel all warm and fuzzy, over what is true or what the preponderance of evidence eludes too.

There is zero evidence for the super natural, in fact it is quite like another term that theists spout, 'nothing'.

"why or how does something come from nothing?"

Well, what is nothing, point to something that is truly nothing! it is the same as the super-natural, it is an empty comment that is bereft of any benefit to human understanding.

Ask yourself this too, how is it that in enlightened countries where non belief isn't punished, atheism is on the rise.
Where as theism has a strangle hold of countries where the position on non-belief is punished.

You believe because it is easy for the credulous mind, you have less fear of death as you believe in a notion of heaven.
You can be horrible to your brother and sister humans, because a) the book says so & b) your sins are forgiven for believing.

The list of 'get out clauses' is unrivalled.

I couldn't care what someone believes, I'm happy for everyone!
But if it is potentially problematic, keep it to yourselves.

Furthermore, personal beliefs should never be enforced, should not dictate life, culture, laws etc.

Shalabh1410's picture
Your problem is you have had

It was my mistake. I am wrong. Sorry.

Cognostic's picture
@Salabh Singh: RE: "theism

@Salabh Singh: RE: "theism means lack of belief in God or gods and I don't believe them ,and even if they exist I don't care.
How is it related to atheism?

NO! That is how you are related to Atheism. It says nothing at all about your inane quackery.

RE: It has everything with atheism because basically we had a problem to explain what is life, what is consciousness.

NO, WE DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM EXPLAINING LIFE OR CONSCIOUSNESS. (Atheists are people who do not believe in god or gods.) YOU ARE IN THE WRONG FORUM. You want to talk about LIFE go visit a biology forum. You want to talk about consciousness, try a psychology forum. ATHEISTS ARE PERFECTLY FINE READING WHAT THE EXPERTS HAVE TO SAY AND WAITING FOR APPROPRIATE ANSWERS. IF YOU WANT TO JOIN THE SEARCH, YOU ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE.

NOTHING YOU ARE ON ABOUT HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ATHEISM. YOU ARE ENGAGED IN MENTAL MASTURBATION AND NOTHING MORE. TRYING TO MAKE YOURSELF LOOK INTELLIGENT IN A GROUP OF ATHEISTS ARE YOU? YOU ARE FAILING HORRIBLY!

Shalabh1410's picture
I am sorry. Please forgive me

I am sorry. Please forgive me . I wasted your time. I won't do this again.

Cognostic's picture
RE: "Because there may be

RE: "Because there may be someone who really wants to know the truth. "

You have offered no truth. You have only offered the fallacy of personal experience and mental masturbation. You would not know how to expand your perception if you were sitting in a library.

RE: "And he is presented some stories to believe but he gets frustrated and become atheist. I want them to know there is still hope. "

NOW WE HAVE YOUR FUCKTARD AGENDA. "ATHEISTS HAVE NO HOPE. ATHEISTS ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN UP. ATHEISTS ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN'T UNDERSTAND, GET FRUSTRATED, AND GIVE UP."
FUCK OFF WOO WOO BOY!

Randomhero1982's picture
I'll take a stab at this boys

I'll take a stab at this boys and girls.

"Is atheism based on denial"

No, it's based on da' Mississippi.

*chuckles*

Yo tin man, old man, did you see what I did there...

Did you see..

Did?!

Oh, I'll get my coat!

Tin-Man's picture
@Random Re: da' Mississippi

@Random Re: da' Mississippi

I really want to "Boooo" and throw popcorn at you, but I can't deny I am jealous that you thought of that before I did... *grumble*...

Tin-Man's picture
Just an observation here for

Just an observation here for those who might be interested. Pay close attention and you might notice our new friend Khvhh seems to be having difficulty maintaining his "accent" when engaged in lengthy exchanges. Fairly common writing error, actually, when pretending to impersonate different cultural speaking patterns. In all fairness, he was doing pretty good for a bit, but then he started slipping. (Whoopsie!) Just sayin'...

I had mentioned this in a post in the middle of this thread, but figured I would say it here again toward the end in case the other one went unnoticed in the shuffle.

(Edited to change name of individual addressed)

Tin-Man's picture
Re: Shalabh

Re: Khvhh

Whaaaat?... He's gone already?... Gee, was it something I said?...

(Edited to change name of individual addressed)

NewSkeptic's picture
That was two minutes I'll

That was two minutes I'll never get back.

Cognostic's picture
Was it something someone said

Was it something someone said?

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Cog

@ Cog

Ahhh grasshopper, you must learn to think with all your senses and gain mastery of the earth and sky then you can flow like the wind in an enhanced perception bubble.

I can show you but first your sewer (mind ) must be unblocked and your chakras allowed to flow freely amongst all furry animals. Only by achieving that enhanced state of furry awareness will you be able to see the truth as I see it.

I apologise humbly for being so humble as to presume to guide you to such enhancements that would prevent another outbreak of pig nosing, but you must suffer as I abase my greater knowledge before your great knowledge.

Fuck Off Tin Man, I am enhancing Cognostic sensory outputs, oh crikey indeedy to goodness.

Cognostic's picture
@Old man shouts ...:

@Old man shouts ...:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7JxiK_3wg8

Dreams can come true.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Cog

@ Cog

Ah my younger days....I sometimes yearn for those headlong crazy days, just me, my first trike and gravel rash along with a side of concussion.

So cruel....back to zoo for you, you poo flinging primate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUC5yPOzKFo

Cognostic's picture
@Old man....

@Old man....
I'm outta here, *Proudly Displaying the Middle Finger* Catch me if you can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s7w3_NGk2g

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ COG

@ COG

GIVE ME BACK MY TRIKE YOU BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tin-Man's picture
@Old Man Re: To Cog - "GIVE

@Old Man Re: To Cog - "GIVE ME BACK MY TRIKE YOU BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Don't worry, Old Man! I've got this!...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnPUe80oBZw

Oh, wait... *looking through binoculars*.... Damn... Those weren't tricycle riders were they? Shit. I have GOT to remember to pack my glasses when going on a sniper mission.

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ TM

@ TM

Hmmmm...re your glasses...they weren't fekking chimps neither....

Tin-Man's picture
@Old Man

@Old Man

Well, after realizing I had forgotten my glasses, I just hoped I would get lucky. But there were so damn many of them..... At least I tried, though... *shrugging shoulders*...

Cognostic's picture
TIN: WHAT IN THE FUCK WAS

TIN: WHAT IN THE FUCK WAS THAT!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU
Now you assholes are in for a fight.

Tin-Man's picture
@Cog

@Cog

Geeeez... Don't go getting your panties all in a wad. I was only using tranquilizers. Besides, you know how difficult it is for Old Man to get around without his trike. He has that bum Achilles Plantar Hip-Knee Joint, remember?

Old man shouts at clouds's picture
@ Cog

@ Cog

Look pussy, my bros are on the way to sort you out.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym_YURQICXw

Cognostic's picture
@Old man... We're ready.

@Old man... We're ready. We've done this before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UixEtAessWg

Sheldon's picture
Khvhh "Why is the personal

Khvhh "Why is the personal experience not the path to truth?. Can you please explain it?

When you see a "magic" show, does the lack of contrary evidence, or your inability to explain what happened prompt you to believe you've actually seen someone perform magic?

You're welcome.....

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