Christians, I make the claim that you probably do not believe in hell

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Sheldon's picture
It explains why Breezy

It explains why Breezy insisted the bible condemned slavery.

Senta Christine's picture
They are not great evidence

They are not great evidence seekers. Our entire universe and all conscious life is evidence and they just choose to ignore it and pretend it magically appeared without higher intelligence being involved.

Sheldon's picture
You don't know what evidence

You don't know what evidence means do you? You've also used another argument from ignorance fallacy. and a straw man argument.

Sheldon's picture
"atheists here, without any

"atheists here, without any evidence, call me a "religous absolutist".

You said there was no such thing as objective evidence, so that's pretty funny.

LogicFTW's picture
@Orignal post by v a p o r w

@Orignal post by v a p o r w a v e

Agreed, the logical, conceptual and reasoning errors and flaws of the concept of hell (and heaven really) are legion. And just this one issue alone should be more than enough to convince people to abandon their faith that is based on these concepts.

Just the simple idea that 99% of all people that ever lived are definitely going to internal torment, with a vast majority of those never even heard of the word "jesus christ" or the religion idea as a whole. And the tiny 1% that might not go to hell but heaven instead in a vague rule set system that has built in "forgiveness," (can I be a "sinner my whole life, but atone for my sins on my deathbed?") I will be plenty earnest on my deathbed! Oh I can't because I stated and thought of this plan? God will know I tried to beat his system? Well then how does forgiveness work?

I could write thousands of words on the major MAJOR! issues of just the heaven and hell concept. It is almost comically flawed idea except for the fact so many people believe in variations of it, which instead just makes it flat out terrifying and a rather disheartening look at how much of humanity lacks critical thinking skills when it comes to their faith. And in the day of internet with near instant access to actual answers, that cannot be censored by the church, the excuse of ignorance wears thin quickly.

 
 

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Ramo Mpq's picture
@OP

@OP

So you're claiming a probably? Lol. Good luck

algebe's picture
Ray Comfort is from

Ray Comfort is from Christchurch, New Zealand, where I lived for around 35 years. He was one of several harmless eccentrics who used to preach and debate in the city's central square at lunchtime. Nobody really took him seriously. And then he went to America and became a rich and famous celebrity. People take him very seriously and send him money, despite all the stupid things he says about bananas and the age of the Earth.

Why do Americans fall for imported loons like Comfort and Ken Ham? Aren't there enough American hucksters and shysters? What can these god peddlers teach the country that invented Mormonism AND Scientology?

arakish's picture
Actually I think foreigners

Actually I think foreigners like Comfort and Ham start off in a country where they are preaching to a brick wall because atheism is more acceptable in those countries. Thus, to get rich, they come to America knowing that religion is still so hammered into people here they become mentally retarded enough that they lose their capabilities of critical thinking, logical reasoning/analysis, deductive reasoning/analysis, rational thought, and analytical thought. Perfect examples abound now with Breezy, Apollo, JNV3, quantummechanist, etc.

Us Americans are slowly, very slowly, waking up from the Matrix of Religious Absolutism. Although it shall never happen in my lifetime, I can see America switching around to where the Religious Absolutists become a minor minority. It just won't happen in my lifetime. Also think on this. Churches are actually merging into these mega-churches because the "small" churches no longer have the funds to continue. Thus, they have to shut down and send their parishioners to larger churches that just continue to grow. However, the number of churches in America are decreasing. But the number of mega-churches increases. And, overall, the number of "religious" persons is also decreasing.

And the one thing I hate most about those vicious lying vipers is how they will say, "Our numbers increased by 3 million." Yet, they hide the fact that their numbers also decreased by 5 million in the same time period.

Hell even the Morons, are in trouble. The only reason Scientology continues to slightly thrive is because they were smart and put their treasures into bank accounts that now produce enough accumulative interest to keep them going with their small size. Additionally, they have all those libraries that not only allow free-reading of the books, but you may also purchase the books. It is not so much the "churches" Scientology now has, it is the "business" they possess.

In my honest opinion, regardless, if any "church" has more than 25 people, then it should be treated as if a "business" and taxed accordingly. Furthermore, no exemptions due to "charitable donations" the church may give. As far as I am concerned, the "total amount of tithes received" should be the basis for the taxes.

Of course, this might would lead to the churches demanding more input into the government. My response would be, "Your sorry asses already grease the palms of so many government officials. Go fuck yourself. Now you are just going to have a little grease to use. Maybe you should switch over to KY."

rmfr

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I was born in Hell Lane in

I was born in Hell Lane in the Hundred of Gore.

(Actually Hell Lane was renamed Honeypot Lane early in the 20th century, before I was born).

A Hundred is an administrative division that is geographically part of a larger region (a county).

The hospital I was born in, Honeypot Lane Hospital, was built in the in late 1930s ... one of many hospitals built around London intended to be used as mental hospitals to cope with the expected response to the bombing of London if war started.

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