Once again, Christians are preparing to celebrate the torture and murder of Jesus and thank him for submitting to this blood sacrifice. I, for one, find this event and its religious meaning heinous in its entirety.
The idea that a father would torture and murder his own son because the neighbors kids misbehaved is deplorable.
The idea that someone who has committed a crime against me is now forgiven by a third party. I am a forgiving, easy going person and I reserve that right to myself. To hell what some mythical scapegoat has to say about it.
Believing that a murder victim rose from the dead asks of me to be a gullible fool. Believing he flew up into the clouds is silly.
Then, the closing act of the Christian narrative will have this celestial zombie returning with a vengeance. All of the hard earned accomplishments of humanity destroyed. All suffering death except "true" Christians. Then the establishment of a necrocracy. One in which the only requirement of what is left of humanity will be to worship their king without ceasing. This is the apocalypse story I grew up with. Silly predictions about getting microchip implants or tattoos with the number 666. Silly tales like the "Left Behind" book series.
Perhaps I am cynical, but for sheer horror show imagery this fairy tale beats anything the Brothers Grimm or Stephen King dreamed up.
You Christians can celebrate your favorite horror fiction. I, for one, will be celebrating springtime this April Fools Day. Blooming trees, songbirds, Irises.
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We love Easter in the UK, not for any religious twaddle... but because we have vast amounts of chocolate eggs!
Plus two bank holidays (paid leave), can't grumble!
True dat, and I get to feed my grandchildren with chocolate until my wife tuts and rolls her eyes. The long weekend is brill as well.What's not to love. The Jesus thing doesn't feature at all. I think religions are on the wane in the UK for a lot of people.
Easter is all about the bunny!
i thought its all about the eggs..
now i'm confused
Let’s meet in the middle...it’s all about the bunny bringing the eggs :)
@Cyber
Even better...
About the chocolate bunny bringing the delicious Cadbury Eggs. *Big Grin*
Easter in my home has always been about the lamb. Not the Lamb of God. I mean Roast Leg of Lamb. I continue this family tradition I learned from my Grandmother. It is the only time of the year I fork out + $40 for a section of meat. Whole leg, shoulder portion. Roasted medium rare to medium. I use a paring knife and poke 1/4 inch holes all over the leg which I stuff garlic clove sections and sprigs of rosemary. Coarse Salt and fresh cracked black pepper. A decent Cab or Pinot Noir. Peeps or Cadbury eggs do not compare.
@ Chimp
Nom nom de nom nom...
Cadbury bunny!
Pro tip: the best time to "celebrate" Easter is when they start selling discounted chocolate.
Jesus is coming! Hide the eggs!
https://youtu.be/NjjwbgllQSw
my favorite story for Lenten season is
"jesus terminator"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pUrsUORF4Y
On the serious side, I concur, Chimp. I think the celebration of a cruel and bloody death is pretty disgusting. That this death was required for unlocking the doors to a place for an eternity of adoring the one requiring that death is even more disgusting.
What is more sinister about the Christian narrative is that they try to place the blame of this torture murder on us. Us, living today! We are responsible! Just because we like certain sexual practices or because we failed in our youth to set aside self gratification for a higher goal.
We, alive today are responsible for a murder that occurred 2000 years ago: https://www.ucg.org/the-good-news/all-bear-responsibility-in-jesus-death
What a heinous concept. A mother taking out her revenge on her son because his father was abusive would still be considered child abuse by today's standards. I do not see the difference.
No paid leave. I grumble with a mouth full of chocolate.
Yea, I'll give you all that, but when Jesus dresses up in the bunny suit and hops about laying chocolate eggs and little yellow marshmallow chickens, it has to put a smile on your face.
@Cog
Ohhhhhhh..... So THAT'S where those little yellow marshmallow chickens come from? Awesome!
have you watched the movie "holidays"?
there's a scene on the movie that shows jesus christ looks like easter bunny with a thorned crown
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Very freaky!
yeah tell me about it...
wait till you see the movie..hahah
weird stuff...short compiled freaky stories of holidays in America
like "st. Patrick's day,Easter, mothers day, fathers day, valentines..etc..
Easter is the hijacking of the summer solstice by the Roman catholic church and turning it into a christian celebration of a myth.
The fact is that the myth of a savior being crucified and then coming back to life preceded christianity by decades. In 325 ADE christians added this myth to the gospel of mark to make their myth more appealing to the ignorant.
The summer solstice is not until late a June. If anything was hijacked and replaced with easter, it was more likely Passover.
Easter was a pagan holy day. It was about fertility.
@ CyberLn & Myk
Actually Easter falls on the Spring Equinox, ( Northern Hemisphere) and that is why the date moves. Its always the first full moon following the vernal equinox
The bunny, eggs etc are remnants of pagan festivals along with Maypoles etc celebrating the new season and year. They are celebrations of survival and fecundity.
So Easter really represents a lot of fucking around, the start of spring planting and a thanks t the gods for allowing survival through a nasty cold winter.
Passover got all mixed up into it in the Roman period after the sack and destruction of Jerusalem and the Diaspora. It was also a major Mithrain festival so all of them got folded up into the same phase of the moon,
Of course the xtians had to spoil it all by introducing blood and nails and death and shit. So a five day orgy turned into three days of bullshit and one day of celebration. Typical.
Thx old man!
@ CyberLN and Mykcob
You are both very welcome!
Thank you old man.
I find this thread painful to read. Where shall I begin?
Christ becoming human and his death, as understood by Christians, is not one where the Father sent his Son to be tortured. The Christian understanding is that Christ is fully God. He is co-eternal with the Father.
It is therefore the Christian understanding that God, himself, came down fully knowing everything that would happen. The language used in John 3:16 is in relation to the trinity where God is one being in 3 persons.
@JoC
And I find your post painful to read, because: 1. If Jesus is God and God is Jesus and it was God himself who came down in the form of Jesus full well KNOWING everything that would happen and that he (Jesus/God) would not actually really DIE, then how in the bloody name of Jiminy Cricket could that even remotely be considered a "sacrifice"?... and 2. How could you possibly not know Easter was totally adopted from the Pagan celebration of fertility (called Estra) during the Spring Equinox? It was around LONG BEFORE Christianity, and originally had nothing to do with Jesus.
Edit to add: Believe me, you do not want me getting my wife on here to educate you in the Pagan origins of "Christian" holidays.
@ TM
Not only that, Jesus didn't die, he had a 3 day vacation...so jesus 'rested a bit" for your sins.
Clearer now old titanium britches?
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