A huge proportion of people on this site are nasty.
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I don't know why everybody seems to be making such a fuss about Ultimate Reality. What's the big whoop? Rather blase, mundane, and sooooo yesterday.... *rolling eyes in bored manner*... On the other hand, SUPER Ultimate Reality is where you need to be to find the absolute hyper-truth and superior apex logic. Everybody who is anybody knows that.
Why are you wasting your time with Super Ultimate Reality; when you can order SUPER-DUPER Ultimate Reality! Call in the next 20 minutes and mention this post and you'll also a 10% discount and a "making SUPER-DUPER Ultimate Reality great again" hat. Operators are standing by.
Do I have to wear a virtual reality device? Or does it have to be a super ultimate virtual reality device? I wonder if Best Buy carries them.
@David Re: "Do I have to wear a virtual reality device?"
Actually, for Super Ultimate Reality you simply have a tiny VR device surgically implanted along the optic nerve behind your eyeballs. Way cool, huh?
You'll have to ask Nyar what is required for Super Duper Ultimate Reality, though. I'm not familiar with that upgraded system.
Probably just an app for you, while I need to have surgery.
I have a case of beer, some duct tape and a Swiss Army knife, is that enough for the operation?
@David Re: "I have a case of beer, some duct tape and a Swiss Army knife, is that enough for the operation?"
Mirror. Very important you have a mirror. Otherwise, you won't be able to see to properly splice/connect the wiring. Oh, and careful that you DO NOT mistake the brown wire for the red. The results will not be pretty. Trust me on that one... *shaking head sadly*...
Not sure someone who worships a god that: orders genocide, punishes people for eternity for finite thought crimes, condones slavery, condones killing infidels,condones killing homosexuals, condones the subjugation of women, etc, has any standing to tell us how nasty we are.
I can attack ideas without attacking people. I realize others are scarred from their time interacting with the theist community, so they may not be ready at this moment (or ever) to do that. My getting upset or resorting to petty tactics while abandoning reason and critical thinking is only going to further the poor reputation of atheism in the theist world at large, meaning they'll be less likely to open their eyes or try to question their epistemology.
Religion is irrational. Religions set themselves up that way. You can not rationally argue a theist. If you could the debate would be over in 2 seconds.
It all comes down to this: Either you believe unevidenced claims others tell you, or you don't.
Religion over the 1000's of years have evolved this sort of "irrational" armor. So you cannot even pierce it with plain speak like: your religion/god is unevidenced, therefore it just a human idea just like a rainbow farting unicorn is just a human idea. (Maybe toss in a bunch of argumentum ad populum, and healthy dose of appeal to (false) authority.
That said, I agree we should all aspire to be calm and patient, even if 100's of people over the year come in and post their, well unevidenced idea, and demand we join them in their unevidenced idea. But the sad reality is, unless a theist is on the fence, and is ready to accept sweeping changes to their worldview they been taught since little kids, it does not matter how we argue, nice, nasty, petty tactics, etc None of it really matters. I only hope someone on the fence reads these boards and can see, that any and all god ideas are completely unevidenced and should be dismissed as something to act upon.
According to triple top secret, super-dooper invisible mind melting government banned ultimate
OFFICIAL MESSAGE FROM US DEPARTMENT
OF INTERNET POLICING
THE CONTENT OF THE PREVIOUS MESSAGE
HAS BEEN REMOVED FOR THE
SECURITY AND SAFETY OF THE INTERNET
Umm, he seems to have left (?) Perhaps a fly by.
Do you think we hurt his feelings?
And then there's "You're offended? So fucking what? (Stephen Fry)
The right to offend is crucial to my understanding of free speech
The link below is to a Youtube clip on the subject with Rowan Atkinson, Ricky Gervais and Stephen Fry. Sorry for meandering off topic.