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@CyberLN: How about just give an honest answer to the inquiry John?
DO YOU HAVE ANY OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE FOR YOUR DIETY? Stop the evading and respond to the question. We would all love to hear it before the world ends next Friday.
Let's see. Attempting to get back, about three? All of which are under some derivative of John 6IX Breezy. One of which I used to send you a private message asking why I was bannned. To which you responded by banning again without explanation.
Previous to getting banned I had a single main account which I used for several years. The only other account I recall having was way back when I first found this site (7 years ago?) and didn't want to use my main email. I've told that story before in defense of drive-by posters. I think many ppl create a test account and then forget what they used and switch over.
I own no account that can qualify as a sock-puppet. My identity has always been transparent in any account I've made including this one.
I'm asking what is the TOTAL number of accounts you have created on this site. I expect the answer to take the form of an integer. I will accept estimates (as just an example) such as "about 10", or "about 3" or "about 100".
My estimate, which can be summed up from my previous comment, is 5.
1 test account 7 years ago.
1 main account.
3 accounts to ask why I was banned.
@Breezy: Okay, reply to a mod. I understand this one necessarily needs to be off topic. Can we get back on topic now. "What objective evidence do you have for your deity?" Answer the question John!
How many times have you broken the rules on AR?
That I've been told about, either in private message or publicly, none. The closest I remember was posting on the super secret atheist thread to wish somebody congrats on their marriage. Which I don't recall any rules against, but I was told not to do it again anyway.
You're welcome to post any instances I broke the rules.
Have you ever trolled anyone on the AR forums?
Depends on your definition of trolling. I do enjoy a little sarcasm every now and then.
Have you ever (in your opinion) trolled anyone on this site?
That is one way of putting it. Another way of putting it is that you fraudulently marked your profile as atheist, thereby gaining access (and posting) to the Atheist Hub (a highly controlled section of the forums where some members risk their life posting to, which is clearly marked for atheists only).
Let me be the first to inform you that this so-called "highly controlled" section of the forum is in full display to the public. Open a new browser without logging in and the Atheist Hub is one of the first things people see. If people are indeed risking their lives to post there, don't you think your concern should be concealing that section from the public, rather than not letting me congratulate a fellow member on their wedding?
Does not sound like you are repudiating your past behavior. Try again.
Hello ʝօɦn 6lX ɮʀeeʐy
Are the work restrictions on the Sabbath of SDA similar to the Jewish ones?
What are the main differences that sets SDA apart from other Christian branches?
Not expecting a long list. Just a couple of examples will suffice.
I think the Sabbath is kept very similarly by Jewish people and SDA's; the basics should be the same.
Some of the main differences between SDA's and other branches include the belief than we don't have souls, that the Sabbath is on Saturday not Sunday, that Hell is more of an event than a location. Most SDA's are also vegetarian or vegan.
@ʝօɦn 6lX ɮʀeeʐy
Very interesting. I know nothing about SDA and I am quite surprised to learn some of the main differences. Did not see that coming at all.
Yea I knew y'all kept the correct Sabbath day, but I'm not sure if y'all keep the actual Sabbath practise as instructed in The Word, no cooking, no driving, no writing or anything creative.
I'm also pretty sure you all have your own translation.
And I'm pretty sure you all do not accept Yahusha The Messiah (Jesus) as the true son of God. When The Word Very plainly states His only BEGOTTEN son... as in Lamech begat Noah.
And a man can never be born of a virgin, Therefore he ,Yahusha was not a man.
I never knew about you all not believing people don't have a soul tho, that's crazy brother, The Most High Blew the breath of life into the nostrils making man a living soul.
I'm under the impression that it is kept very similarly to the way it is instructed; however it is perhaps not kept the way some may interpret those instructions. Given no direct mention of vehicles in Scripture, any prohibition against driving has to be indirectly concluded. SDA's and Jewish people are bound to disagree on such grounds
We don't have any privately owed translations. We use all the available translations; and refer to the original languages when needed.
To your last sentence, notice you said man was made a living soul, not that man was given a soul. The only thing man is said to be given is the breath of life, which is differentiated from soul in that sentence. That verse is perhaps the foundation for SDA's beliefs on the subject.
The breath of life Created the living soul brother. There isn't one without the other.
And I don't know why people act like there is so many different understandings, to me it's all very plain and simple to understand. People are always adding to and taking away from The Word.
On the Sabbath the no creativity part is the main message like don't kindle a fire etc.
Also good to note I follow the doctrine of no man, like I know everything you say has been taught to you by your leader in the church, your trusting that leaders translation over The Most High God's word.
No1 would ever from reading that verse wld come to not believe that mankind don't contain a soul.
So I know that was passed to you and you accepted it as truth, even tho it dont lign up with scripture.
Our body is what we are NOT.
I agree there isn't one without the other; but if we put that verse into an equation you get this:
Breath + Body = Living Soul
What other denominations primarily see is this:
Body + Soul = Living Being
What most people don't understand or grasp, is that when the breath of life was breathed thru the nostrils, Body's like we have now did not even exist. We didn't get these bodys until WE was kicked out of The garden of Eden.
These body's are OUR punishment for eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Adam Was all Mankind Togther as ONE even before Adam(all humans from begining of time as we know it, to the end) was placed in the Garden(as one as adam), He was male and Female and told to multiply, and it was SO, even before the separation of male and female.
People think Adam was a regular man as we are and that's just not the case at all.
Eve was all females together as ONE after the separation. This is why there is no child birth until after they was kicked out of the Garden. And when he made them clothes of skins that is our bodies, not clothes like men make.
These is not taught in any doctrines or any church to my knowledge. But theres really no way around it.
Every human that was multiplied within Adam when The Most High commanded it,must face this punishment of experiencing death. Explaining child birth and somewhat even time it's self.
Another thing backing My understanding of this is Sodom and Gomorrah, when Abraham asked The Most High if there even be 10 righteous would you spare them, He said if there was even 10 he would spare the whole city's.
Showing his character, meaning he would not punish every man in existence for 2 humans mistakes. Also that's why we all have the knowledge of Good and evil, bc we all ate from that tree.
@ʝօɦn 6lX ɮʀeeʐy
Generally speaking SDA's follow the principle of "No man" too. My church doesn't have doctrines for example; but we do have fundamental beliefs which are there to provide cohesion not to prescribe. I normally don't tell people my denomination precisely because it is uninformative. If for whatever reason Scripture contradicts the churches teaching, member are encouraged to choose Scripture.
There's nothing protestants love more than to defy authority.
@In Spirit: Don't get him started on second or third questions when he has not yet responded to the first question. "What objective evidence do you have for your deity?"
I know what you mean but we both know that if we wait for that answer I'll never get the chance to ask other questions of curiosity. Might as well learn something I don't know in the meantime.
Perhaps I am not understanding the gravity of what you are asking from me because I don't know John as you have with your past experiences with him.
@In Spirit: Not to worry. It's typical Breezy. The mods ask him direct questions and he does all he can to evade, hedge, and do everything but give an honest and direct response. He did it with Sheldon, he does it with me, and he is doing it with the mods. I am surprised he is able to answer any question, like yours, directly.
I'm always transparent with my answers. The issues emerge when you expect me to have black and white answers for questions that I see as falling between different shades of gray. I give the answers that best represent my beliefs on a given topic; if they are not to your liking then it is because you are asking the wrong person. You are looking for a cartoonish version of a Christian and get upset when you dont have that.
There is NOTHING shaded by gray in the request for 'OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE" It is clearly defined. I have given you the definitions. Why are you so frigging obtuse. Why just not state that you HAVE NO OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE. HOW FRIGGING HARD IS THAT?
THE QUESTION IS CLEAR AND CONCRETE. "WHAT OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE DO YOU HAVE FOR YOU DEITY?
Now we have the No True Scotsman Fallacy. All my versions of Christianity are false. Obviously you are the only person out there without a cartoonist version of the Christian faith. HORSESHIT!
Shifting the burden of proof and calling me upset will not work either. You have been asked the question. ANSWER IT! "What objective evidence do you have for the existence of your deity? " Stop playing your little games and answer the question.
@In Spirit Re: Breezy
Long story with John, dude. But if he is allowed to hang around long enough, you will eventually understand... *chuckle*...